Has the DAREDEVIL Reboot Come to a Halt?

Marvel needs the Right back to this Fuhhhk fox. [frick] Slade. Bring it back to marvel

All the better for Marvel Studios.

[frick] FOX, gives the rights to Daredevil to Marvel Studios, where it rightfully belongs.

NOOOOOOOOOO

yay! maybe we can see DD properly done!

Guy Pearce FTW!

I was wondering about this the other day, but figured Marvel asked that it be downplayed till Avengers comes out...guess not. Ouch!

Ya im irritated, DD is in my top 2 of faves, really wanted to see him on the big screen again. I guess the bright side is that if this guy couldn't find the time to dedicate himself than it probably would of sucked and srcew him anyway, now maybe marvel will get it going.

Can you imagine Daredevil fighting along side with the avengers? Him and hawkeye would make a brutal team, but for now we can only hope fox pulls a first class and shocks us with a quality super hero flick, keep those fingers crossed!

10 years ago, a DD movie could've had a chance at being a modest success. But despite the fact he has a fan following in comics a DD movie would not be a major movie event or a huge money maker. There is a misconception by fanboys and others that the general public is ready to line up at the box office to see movies based on any popular comic book characters. A DD movie, now, brings nothing new to the table. He swings around the city with the aid of a simple mechanicle device, we've seen that in Batman films since 1989 and we've seen Spidey swinging around NY for 10 years now. DD has a radar sense that enable him to see things and he can hear better than the average person. And he can fist fight people. Being able to see with a Radar Sense would be cool if you were blind for those of us who can see, we'd rather just see with our eyes. Enhanced hearing is nice but not so nice people will line up to see yet another character with super hearing. Fist fights can be cool but we can watch fake fist fights tv anytime. Or we can watch real ones in MMA.
So when you break it down, DD is not movie material. And would be a weak tv show as well. Any smart filmmaker will see that in a heartbeat.

In Born Again, the idea is not to destroy Daredevil by beating him in battle. It's to destroy his personal life as Murdock. It's to uproot everything Matt stands for as a man, not a vigilante. It's the same with Bendis' run. Obviously Matt's identity being out is a big issue, but it's because he loses ground with the people around him. People expect something of him because he's also Daredevil, and that takes a heavy toll.

So, I hope the filmmakers don't lose sight of that. Daredevil's a phenomenal character, but I think he's one of the few superheroes to be overshadowed by his true identity.

@BattlinMurdock We can see lawyers on tv anytime also. A super hero movie doesn't succeed just because the character has some fans. Spawn, Hulk, Green Lantern, Ghost Rider, The Fantastic Four were flops. Even Captain America and Thor did not break 200 million in the US.
A super hero movie has to have a strong hook or a lure that brings people in. DD has nothing new to bring. You can have a new Kingpin or The Owl or some villain thats never been in live action, but DD himself brings nothing into a film we haven't seen before. When the typical movie goer has seen Avatar, Dark Knight, CGI heavy films such as the Transformers and soon The Avengers, a movie featuring DD, a blind lawyer, who swings from a rope, and who can hear really good and see with radar isn't going to impress people enough to go buy movie tickets. Its a Super Hero movie with no "Super" in it.

My take on a Daredevil movie:

Story focuses on DD's early years. Acquiring his powers, honing his skills under the tutelage of Stick. His early confrontations involve street crime, thugs, gang stuff -- until one day in court, where he encounters a man named Paddy O'Hanlon -- aka The Gael, a psychotic, disfigured hitman who is acquitted of murder. As Daredevil, he follows The Gael and eventually confronts him, but loses -- as tough as DD is, he's never faced so violent and psychotic an opponent before. Lucky to survive, he licks his wounds, learns from his mistakes and goes after The Gael again, resulting in a brutal show down with The Gael and an extended fight/chase sequence through the alleys and across the rooftops of Hell's Kitchen.

There'd be lots of hard, brutal, MMA-type fights, lots of free-running/parkour stuff with DD vaulting across the skyline, some hardcore, rigorous training scenes with Stick...it'd be like borrowing the structure from a classic Shaw Brothers flick and infusing it with a superhero, in a gritty urban setting. It would be bad...wait for it...

...wait for it...

ASS.

@Grif - i like the way you think.

Put him in a team-up movie.

@bgg1175 - You have some valid points but I absolutely disagree with the idea that DD would make for a weak tv series. As BattlinMurdock points our Matt Murdock is a great character and they could explore his lawyerly pursuits as the main part of the series (people seem to love crime dramas these days). Heck, if they can develop a Green Arrow and a Punisher tv series they could certainly do the same with DD.

As far as not being movie material, well he has already shown that people will watch a DD movie. Worldwide DD made more than twice its budget so rule of thumb it made its money back and all the other stuff (merchandising, dvd/tv sales, etc) made it profitable. However, DD is certainly not movie franchise material. It is a one off as a movie.

Should Marvel get the rights back maybe they will use the character in a team up situation (not the Avengers though) perhaps The Defenders or even just use the Murdoch character in some cameos defending heroes or even villains in court.

Two reasons ain't going to happen:

1. Fox sees lackluster biz Ghost Rider and their FF films did and they rightly think if they make a DD film, it's not going to make their money back.

2. They know they don't know how to make a Marvel property the way Marvel can.

Film execs are the most paranoid schitzos around. One clunker can get people fired. I bet there's a lot of nervous execs at Fox who won't roll the dice.

I kind of agree with bgg. It might seem like a no-brainer to comic book fans, but to the general public, all Dare Devil makes them think of is a meh movie. I also think a lot of people have the perception that every super hero movie out represents the best that can be done with the character. Green Lantern sucked? That character must not lend himself well to making a movie. It hard to shift perception when the movies are the only thing the masses are seeing.

I'd love for Marvel to get DD back.
Maybe another ensemble movie possibility.
Marvel Knights?
DD/Punisher/Moon Knight/ etc?
(street level heroes and anti-heroes

...if Marvel got DD back, they'd make a fun good film. Not great, but something very watchable.

Or they could make a great TV series. DD, Electra, Punisher, Blade, Cloak & Dagger... all the street heroes. Oh yeah!

People need to think. Even if marvel did get characters like this back, there is 0 percent chance an ensemble film would work. It's TOO many characters. I'd imagine maybe 2 more characters at best working (6) in another avengers.

That's why I believe marvels gonna have to start releasing films not in the MCU

You don't have to have everyone in every team movie, you can mix and match. Just use what the story calls for.

But the first one was sooooooooo good.

Sony is not too far off from dumping Columbia Pictures. They lost a lot of cash and Columbia Pictures is the one thing they can get rid of to make up for it. They will get rid of that before they even think of getting out of their other ventures. They already sold their TV and merchandising, Film rights are next.

let that bitch revert back Marvel ...a Daredevil movie needs Black Widow

@mstaley3000 All of the movies listed were considered by Hollywood standards to be a flop. Even Superman Returns, which out performed last years Captain America and Thor and broke 200 mil in the US, was considered a flop because it did not meet expectations.
@SnakeDoctor The fact that DD's comic has had some well received storylines does not translate into ticket sales at the box office. Some of the comics you refer to existed before the Affleck DD and did not create any buzz or ticket sales. If a studio makes a film about DD, the film will stand on its on in a different medium than comics. Non comic buyers will not buy a ticket to a movie because Frank Miller wrote DD 30 years ago anymore than Frank Millers name helped The Spirit. Some of the most successful Comic Related Movies are based on characters that often exist in horrible comics. The Batman and Superman have had some very bad comics and yet movie makers still managed to find an audience for their films. Spider-Man had a horrible comic in the 90's yet in 2001 the movie succeeded. Those 3 characters are household names and characters that are dynamic and people love, so when a film captures the great elements of those characters it can do well. Also each are visually exciting while DD is not.
And while you may consider DD to be more interesting than Batman, the public would greatly disagree with you. Which is why Batman was the number 2 comic in Febuary, the movie going public is eager to see Dark Knight Rises, and we see Batman animated on tv, DVD and the theaters and featured in video games and etc. The reason for that is appeal. The character can carry a movie as well as other types of entertainment. While DD has had some comics people like, he does not have the potential to carry a movie. He's a blind guy who can hear well and has a radar sense and swings on a rope and gets in fistfights. Thats not to say hes a bad character, he's just not exciting enough for film.