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Christopher Nolan Reiterates No Joker in Batman 3

The director of the Dark Knight reiterates no Joker in Batman 3...
Batman 3 is moving forward, but the Joker won't return. As previously interviewed, Christopher Nolan reiterates no Joker in Batman 3.

"For me, Heath was the definitive Joker," Nolan said in an interview to promote "Inception," his sci-fi thriller opening Friday. "It wouldn't feel appropriate to readdress that character."

Ledger died of an accidental prescription drug overdose in January 2008.

No news on who is the villain yet.

Batman 3 is set to come to theaters July 20th 2012.

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Aaron Eckhart as Two-Face, Johnny Depp as The Riddler, Javier Bardem as Bane, Cillian Murphy as Scarecrow, Rachel Weisz or Marion Cotillard as Talia Al Ghul, John Malkovich as Hugo Strange, Danny Huston as Rupert Thorne, Philip Seymour Hoffman as Oswald Cobblepot, Tom Hardy as Hush and Mads Mikkelsen as Black Mask
AlexDeLarge666 - 7/12/2010, 3:06 PM
TALIA AL GHUL!!!!!!!!
TheUnknown - 7/12/2010, 3:18 PM
blackmask and deadshot or firefly
drknight92 - 7/12/2010, 3:23 PM
He has was a great joker and having someone else play joker is just so wrong and insulting
tyko450 - 7/12/2010, 3:32 PM
Nobody cares about more "news" about nothing... Nolan news like this is dumb...

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IronManisGOAT - 7/12/2010, 4:17 PM
Someone else will play Joker eventually - I doubt there are many actors who would be insulted by someone else playing a character they've played. Especially when it's a character they only played for one film.

@Irongoat - Facebook groups are jokes, mate. Jokes. You're much better off trying to Ed Norton to trend on Twitter for a whole day. Would get you more attention.
SoulAllFlush - 7/12/2010, 4:20 PM
I want Harley Quinn(?) as a proxy for Joker and Riddler(Jonny Depp) taking the main stage with a Catwoman(Angelina Jolie).That will work for me.:)
Intruder . - 7/12/2010, 4:22 PM
good
secretasianboy - 7/12/2010, 4:23 PM
@Intruder - although I believe Harley can hold her own. For her introduction to the silver screen you flat out need The Joker. Save Harley for another director I say, alas.
SoulAllFlush - 7/12/2010, 4:25 PM
@Alexdelarge666. Oh come on! there can't be 10 major characters in Batman 3! That's ridiculous! 9, I can believe, but 10...? phfsshh!
lalosuper3001 - 7/12/2010, 4:27 PM
As much as I hate this bit of news I respect Nolan's vision and I'm looking forward to seeing the end product. Having said that, I feel like Joseph Gordon Levitt's Joker would have given Heath a postmortem stiffy.
StevilNYC - 7/12/2010, 4:32 PM
video prototype - 7/12/2010, 4:32 PM
Riddler and Black Mask

OR

Black Mask and Deathstroke
RockNRollCC - 7/12/2010, 4:36 PM
Good. It would just be too wierd and there are so many others to choose from
superdog - 7/12/2010, 4:36 PM
Inception is a masterpiece
CaptainQuirk - 7/12/2010, 4:41 PM
AH! Nolan's Joker is too AMAZING of a character just to drop like that! i don't understand why everyone thinks it would be disrespectful to Ledger. Ledger left a legacy of great performances, and i respect the man to death but the Joker is too vital of a character to just all of a sudden not be around! JGL would do an amazing job! sigh, i don't know about this movie now...
LIMBO - 7/12/2010, 4:47 PM
This is no surprise. It's not like we'll never see the Joker on screen again. There will be Batman movies forever. Some good, some bad. Point is, this will be Nolan's last Batman film, so let him use a new, different villian and we'll see the Joker again when we get a new reboot or a JLA movie, whichever comes first.
MatchesMalone - 7/12/2010, 4:49 PM
KILLER CROC AND BANE
Nightwing09 - 7/12/2010, 4:55 PM
@vp awesome vid.
majinlogan - 7/12/2010, 5:08 PM
Just to showing Joseph Gordon-Levitt playing The Joker escaping from Arkham Asylum could make the movie another epic...
rodsvilaca - 7/12/2010, 5:22 PM
GREAT we gotta wait another freakin 20 years before we see joker again in a film. THANK YOU Mr. Nolan. Thank you for creating something your own and slapping the name JOKER on it.
JFM
P.S. Thank you Mr. Nolan for making Batman look more like RoboCop.
LMFAO
Joey Misfit - 7/12/2010, 5:25 PM
@ Joey Misfit

totally.
deathmetalbrian - 7/12/2010, 5:31 PM
we havent seen a batman villain in a "business" suit so to speak im starting to think that Penguin may be the way to go. another catwoman penguin match up may not be that bad
DCfan89 - 7/12/2010, 5:31 PM
Replacing Heath as the Joker wouldn't be insulting. He's a hugely famous comic book character, so although Heath's performance was incredible, he won't be the last Joker ever.
However, it's not just about is it proper or not. nolan has to work with whichever actor replaces Heath. It would probably a painful thing to do, beacuse nolan and Heath created this version of the character together. Working with someone else in Heath's place would probably feel like if you and your friend had a secret handshake and then you did that handshake with someone else after your friend died. I would love to see another Joker (Joseph Gordon-Levitt), but I can't blame Nolan for not wanting to do it with someone else.
BIGBMH - 7/12/2010, 5:34 PM
lalosuper3001@ What can i say? I cant decide!:D lol If Nolan choose even one of them im happy!:)

Haunt & BIGBMH@ You got that right guys!


Ps. Crispin Glover would make a great Joker!
AlexDeLarge666 - 7/12/2010, 5:36 PM
@IronmanisGoAT Then go find some [frick]ing news yourself and make an article you dipshit, god i'm so tired of people hating on other peoples articles.

what a [frick]stick.

@destroyer14 Thanks for the update. Sometimes us fanboys have a hard time getting over things and we need to be reminded about shit like this so we can move on.
valeriesghost - 7/12/2010, 5:38 PM
we havent seen a batman villain in a "business" suit so to speak im starting to think that Penguin may be the way to go. another catwoman penguin match up may not be that bad
DCfan89 - 7/12/2010, 5:45 PM
I totally agree that Joseph Gordon Levitt could play the joker after a brief stint in Arkham.
I really like the guy and couldn't believe that they were not actually related when i saw 10 things i hate about you years ago.His recent Cobra Commander stint was great.
If you follow the logic of the recent Morrison comics The Joker changes all the time anyway.
CaptainFurious - 7/12/2010, 5:49 PM
I literally just finished rewatching The Dark Knight and what a masterpiece of a movie! While we still have the current creative team and cast, I think it's right that they dont bring in another actor to portray The Joker. In the future? Sure, why not.
JoshW - 7/12/2010, 5:59 PM
Laaaaaaaaaaaame!
ElBicho - 7/12/2010, 5:59 PM

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Minotauro - 7/12/2010, 6:04 PM
WTF..This franchise is overrated..i love begins..TDK felt like it was stuffed and rushed...i say reboot..go with a older batman..not too old..maybe..Ray Stevenson..or Liam Nesson..i know people are gonna freak out about this but, i just think TDK was so over exposed and with Heaths death..just reboot get a new batman..new joker..maybe..idk William Fichtner..The names were off top of my head so dont go crazy..but id like to see it redone.
RooSteR - 7/12/2010, 6:08 PM
You know who would be a great joker, Christian Bale, think about it.
jshark - 7/12/2010, 6:40 PM
@rooster...they will reboot once nolan does his film...cuz im sure they want a cb batman as opposed to this realistic batman so that they can put him in the JLA films in the future...

MIKE PITT, adrien brody or crispin glover for future iterations of joker would kick so much ass!!!!

when nolan finishes his amazing trilogy, i will be glad to see a new cbm batman come out...more true to the comics wrt to stories, villains and heroes...such as azrael, nightwing, bane, croc, riddler, etc...and maybe we'll get another crack at 2face and im sure...JOKER :)
Anil Rickly - 7/12/2010, 6:43 PM
This is bullsh**. The show must go on.
BrotherJohnson - 7/12/2010, 6:43 PM
@RooSteR: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, MAN YOU NEED NEW GLASSES OR SOMETHING!!!

As for the article Christopher Nolan is the definitive Joker and you can't replace him. For the sequel Joseph-Gordon Levitt for the Riddler and Emily Blunt for Vicki Vale.

The Riddler
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Vicki Vale
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AsianAvenger - 7/12/2010, 6:44 PM
I mean Heath Ledger not Christopher Nolan my bad lol.
AsianAvenger - 7/12/2010, 6:45 PM
Hugo Weaving for Riddler...
InstigatorGIRL - 7/12/2010, 7:10 PM
Unfortunately EDWARD NYGMA's suit appears too much THE GREEN HORNET's suit.

Comparisons with SETH ROGEN's performance or even his appearance wouldn't be a good thing.
rodsvilaca - 7/12/2010, 7:19 PM
@InstigatorGIRL

HUGO WEAVING will star Captain America movie as his main villain - The Red Skull.
rodsvilaca - 7/12/2010, 7:21 PM
IG@ I think Denis Leary for Riddler. But not quirky and goofy but more cocky, arrogant and evil..
TABOO13 - 7/12/2010, 7:22 PM
NO RIDDLER.

YES BANE, DEATHSTROKE, TALIA AL GUL, LADY SHIVA.
OSCURO - 7/12/2010, 7:23 PM
It will be the riddler.

I can almost garuntee Black Mask or Hush.
No unrealistic characters such as the penguin, mr.freeze, bane, or deadshot. And don't ruin it with cross-overs. Also, get johhny depp in as the riddler not robin williams. Also, Dick Grayson needs to be in it. maybe not as robin, but as some kid that trying to do batmans job, but batman thinks nothing of it. Also, the riddler should be a cop and find out batmans identity.
XxBatmanCrusaderxX - 7/12/2010, 7:49 PM
the new captain america will be placed in WW2 for those who don't know.
XxBatmanCrusaderxX - 7/12/2010, 7:51 PM
denial day lewis will create awsm different joker if given a chance...
hitzzz - 7/12/2010, 8:10 PM
Nolan= pu$$Y!!!
CaptainProg - 7/12/2010, 8:29 PM
i see im not the only one that has thought that Joseph Gordon Levitt has a heath look and feel to him and even could see him stepping in as a replacement...
eleven59 - 7/12/2010, 8:53 PM
people are just too stupid to get it the first couple of times.
InFamouslyCool - 7/12/2010, 9:21 PM
Ed Norton for Joker!!!

AND for Riddler!!! He's such a super duper swell actor, he can pull off playing both characters and we would all fall in love with him all over again!

Who am I kidding, WE NEVER FELL OUT OF LOVE!!!
McLovin - 7/12/2010, 9:23 PM

@T800 and hopefully a completed BAT CAVE!!!!
LFANCH - 7/12/2010, 10:42 PM
I perfer the more "realistic" Batman in live action movies (Nolans and to a small degree Burtons). I fear a "true" cbm version would be like the toilet flush films of Joel Shoemocker (sp). With the exception of super-powered characters (Superman, Wonder-Woman, etc) you can not take a "mortal" like Batman and go over the top. Batman Forever was ruined because it was over the top.
wavehunter - 7/12/2010, 11:18 PM
ACCORDING TO ME WHAT WE R GOING TO SEE IN B-3

1.A NEW BAT CAVE (BY LFANCH)

2.NEW TUMBLER

3.A NEW FEMALE LEAD

4.A NEW ARIAl OR UNDERWATER VEHICLE

5.ROBIN

AND ACCORDING TO ME WHAT WILL NOT BE IN NEXT B-3

1.NO RIDDLER

2.NO LUCIOUS FOX

T800 - 7/13/2010, 12:53 AM
No Robin please, Batman is on the run/outcast how less credible would he look with a young boy at his side?

I hate the Riddler so please no, I'd rather Liam Neeson came back with another villain. To me the riddler isn't a threat bring on Bane a Black Mask
breakUbatman - 7/13/2010, 2:01 AM
Joseph Gordon Levitt would be perfect for some role. But Black Mask is the way to go. He is a sociopath with no regards to friends or foes. He just kills. The Riddler would just be like the Joker, only more ludacris, more ridicoulus. However, I have the confidence in what Nolan is doing and they have or will find a proper villain.

Beware my power.
Angelus - 7/13/2010, 2:10 AM
HONESTLY THE JOKER, THE CHARACTER SHOULD BE GIVEN A LIFE STILL IN THE BATMAN MOVIES, YES, HEATH LEDGER WAS THE DEFINITIVE JOKER, NOBODY COULD OR SHOULD TOP HIS PERFORMANCE..BUT THERE HAVE BEEN ACTORS THAT HAVE PORTRAYED HIM IN THE PAST..





...AND GUARANTEE, THERE WILL BE SOMEONE WHO WILL PERFORM HIM IN THE FUTURE WITH OR WITHOUT NOLAN HELMING THE SHIP. IT WOULDN'T BE A HORRIBLE THING TO CONTINUE THE JOKER IN FILM, ITS LIKE SAYING WHY WOULD YOU DO THE JOKER AGAIN WHEN JACK NICHOLSON DID HIM ALREADY?



HEATH'S DEATH WAS A TRAGIC LOSS BUT THE CHARACTER OF THE JOKER IS SOMETHING THE WORLD WOULD LOVE TO SEE IN FILM AGAIN, DO YOU STOP THE JOKER IN FILM PERMANENTLY?..


YOU CAN'T THINK DOING THE JOKER IN FILM AGAIN WITH SOMEONE NEW WOULD TROUNCE ON A GOOD ACTOR THAT HAS PAST..ITS MERELY CONTINUING A ROLE...
GUNSMITH - 7/13/2010, 3:16 AM

"It wouldn't feel appropriate to readdress that character."


GUNSMITH - 7/13/2010, 3:22 AM
Seeing as it's a Batman film, y'know, about Batman, I could care less about who the villain is, as long as the story is interesting and the villain(s) they go with provide some tough challenges and choices for Batman. Kind of like how the whole anarchy/chaos theme in The Dark Knight made Batman see that not everything is in black and white. I definitely agree with Nolan's decision to not include the Joker, and I understand his reasons. Besides, if the Joker were included, the film itself would be overshadowed by all the inevitable comparisons.

@ Gunsmith - I think the difference between Christopher Reeve being replaced by Brandon Routh, and somebody replacing Heath Ledger is simple; Between Superman 4 and Superman Returns there was a 17 year gap. It's only been 2 years since The Dark Knight came out, aswell as Heath Ledger's death, so as I said above, it's understandable for Nolan to say that.
RyKnow - 7/13/2010, 3:40 AM
@anil-I totally agree that we need a movie Batman that is a little truer to the source material. I, for one, am clamoring for a JLA movie and want to see Batman in it. I think the bad taste Joel Shumacher left in people's mouths makes people think that you can't do a "comic book" Batman without making him campy. I disagree. While I do enjoy Nolan's films, I think he takes the whole realistic approach way to seriously. I really hope the next director to helm this franchise is able to find that perfect mix of realism and comic book influence. I'm sure it can be done. Look at Iron Man, Spider-Man, Incredible Hulk, etc. Those movies take themselves very seriously while maintaining all the elements that make the comics great.
MatchesMalone - 7/13/2010, 5:28 AM
It's all good the tale was done for now. Lets get another villain in and see what will happen with the films progression.

As for making it truer to the story. I don't think you can make it true to the story on film w.o adding some realism for general audience who doesn't care about Batman fighting Predator in a big metal bat-suit. Honestly what Nolan has done is create a world with no heroes and introduced the first. In my opinion he did not create a too realistic world but instead created a world that could very easily introduce super powered being as something new and terrifying. Allowing new heroes to appear on the scene with a great respect for Batman and his kind of founding father ways. Then you can start showing the JSA as secret society of heroes that have functioned in a more hidden way.

He could truly have another masterpiece on his hands if he wanted to go that route.
ThaMessenger07 - 7/13/2010, 5:52 AM
glad to hear nolan is sticking to his guns and keeping the joker out of part 3. Heath made that character, nobody else should touch it, at least while nolan is directing, besides, there are other villains that can be given some shine. My choices for part 3 are Black Mask, Deadshot, and Riddler. You keep the mob element, the assassin, and the psychological foe.
rolanddeschain - 7/13/2010, 5:54 AM
Good! Leave Joker out of it. There's more than a few reasons why he should NOT be in the next movie. Anyone who's bitching about it is either mentally ill or just a [frick]ing idiot.
BmanHall - 7/13/2010, 6:02 AM
should be Riddler and Deadshot. The Riddler who almost wont even be in the movie, manipulates Deadshot into confrontation w/ Batman. Riddler interacts remotely and always just out of reach by hacking and distributing digi-image riddles to media outlets. The Riddles lead to traps (ala Saw) left behind and pit the sharpshooter and the bat against each other.
provo - 7/13/2010, 6:03 AM
In a way, it adds some depth to Nolan's saga, because if the Joker does not return, moviegoers can make up their own idea as to what happened
in between movies. It makes TDK MORE special, because it's a singular story.

Personally, I think The Riddler should be the next villain.

I also think a thinner Sean Astin could be said character

Fartman - 7/13/2010, 6:53 AM
You could make the Riddler a very serious scary real world prospect.
CaptainFurious - 7/13/2010, 6:59 AM
The past 6 comments I pretty much agree with, particularly ThaMessenger07's first line. Well said.

@ CaptainFurious - I was thinking along them lines. He has the potential to be more menacing than his comic book counterpart.
RyKnow - 7/13/2010, 7:12 AM
AHH I SEE RYE NO...UNDERSTANDABLE
GUNSMITH - 7/13/2010, 7:31 AM
@ Gunsmith - What??
RyKnow - 7/13/2010, 7:34 AM
I'm going to come off sounding like an ass here but it has to be said. I think this movie is going to fall flat on it's face. I don't want it to but as far as cbm's go the dark knight was tops. I have a hard time buying into the idea that the 3rd one is going to be as good or better. For craps sake look at what happened with x-men 3 and spider-man 3. but then again I think all of the x-men movies were crap to begin with..
MrHateful - 7/13/2010, 7:52 AM
calm down people. Soon we will have a Batman reboot and Joker will come back. Nolan already stated this is his last Batman movie and you can pretty much count on the fact that WB won't let that cash cow lay low for too long.

So get a grip of that reality check and take it straight to the bank. Nolan won't change his mind because of your opinions. Wait until this movie comes out and soon after there will be another Batman movie towards the end of the decade. With a 90% likelihood of Joker being in the very 1st movie.
McLovin - 7/13/2010, 8:09 AM
So why should Nolan want to do the Joker again? Batman has a deep and rich rogue's gallery of villains. Why not do one or two that haven't been done before (at least by Nolan)? Isn't one of the most common comments on any thread about a new Superman movie "please, any villain but Luthor!" or words to that effect? So why do you NOT want to see Luthor again, but you DO want to see the Joker? Personally, I want to see Nolan's take on some different villains. I'd love to see the Riddler done more in the style of the more "serious" Riddler as seen in TAS than the classic giggling Frank Gorshin version (though Gorshin's Riddler was my favorite villain on the classic TV show), or maybe the Penguin OR Catwoman (let's not team them up again- it's been done).

Besides, if Nolan decided to do the Joker again in the next film, all we would get is someone trying to imitate Ledger. Do any of us REALLY want to see that? Ledger's performance was his unique take on the character, and brought a different dimension to it. We'll see the Joker again someday, probably when the next director to take on Batman begins putting his movie together (and yes, it WILL happen one day).
comicb00kguy - 7/13/2010, 8:15 AM
comicb00kguy@ 100% agree with everything you just said
rolanddeschain - 7/13/2010, 10:46 AM
Deadshot is hired by the police to hunt Batman and at the same time he is trying to kill Batman so he can secretly take over the remains of the mob in Gotham

Catwoman is intoduced as a anti-hero/burgular who Batman fights but starts to have a dark love interest in her in the aftermath of Rachel's death and due to him being treated like a criminal

Leave the Riddler, Bane, Black Mask and Penguin for future movies

And enough with all this, saying Joker should be in the third Batman. The Dark Knight presented his character fully and he was brilliantly played by Heath. But leave it until a future movie for him to return, hopefully with Harley Quinn. But for Batman 3, let a new villain get a look in!

I dont understand you guys sometimes, you complain when Lex Luthor is constantly used in the Superman movies, but when it comes to the Joker, he should always be in the movies
dancingmonkey08 - 7/13/2010, 11:13 AM
OK its not disrespectful to recast the Joker after Heath Ledger did like maybe the best work ever from a actor, ever. Not for a comic book movie or as a villain but as an performance in a movie but thats because Ledger is a good actor! He doesn't suck at his job! Same go with Jack Nicholson when he kills as the Joker back in 1989 because Nicholson by that time was already know as the greatest actor all time and his role as the Joker in Batman just add to his legacy. So I don't get what the problem is to be honest. It'll be stupid if they just ignore the events that happen in The Dark Knight in Batman 3 and pretend the Joker never existed!! Batman and Commissioner Gordon be like "Joker who? Who the [frick] is the Joker? Sound like a stupid name for a bad guy if you ask me!"

Watch The Dark Knight, the Joker was meant return in the 3rd movie! To quote him "They meant to do this forever." It won't be like Christopher Nolan and Warner Bros. are pissing on Heath Ledger's grave if the bring the Joker back in Batman 3! Villain for Batman 3: Joker with Harley Quinn, Deadshot and the Riddler.

wolverinesfury - 7/13/2010, 1:15 PM
OK its not disrespectful to recast the Joker after Heath Ledger did like maybe the best work ever from a actor, ever. Not for a comic book movie or as a villain but as an performance in a movie but thats because Ledger is a good actor! He doesn't suck at his job! Same go with Jack Nicholson when he kills as the Joker back in 1989 because Nicholson by that time was already know as the greatest actor all time and his role as the Joker in Batman just add to his legacy. So I don't get what the problem is to be honest. It'll be stupid if they just ignore the events that happen in The Dark Knight in Batman 3 and pretend the Joker never existed!! Batman and Commissioner Gordon be like "Joker who? Who the [frick] is the Joker? Sound like a stupid name for a bad guy if you ask me!"

Watch The Dark Knight, the Joker was meant return in the 3rd movie! To quote him "They meant to do this forever." It won't be like Christopher Nolan and Warner Bros. are pissing on Heath Ledger's grave if the bring the Joker back in Batman 3! Villains for Batman 3: Joker with Harley Quinn, Deadshot and the Riddler.

wolverinesfury - 7/13/2010, 1:15 PM
@Mclovin. You just had to go and mention we'd get another batman reboot someday soon didn't you? Frankly I'm a bit curious as to what the next guys would do to batman. I mean since everyone praised batman begins and the dark knight for being so dark, is the next guy going to come in and just push the R rating and basically make batman out to be nothing short of a coke snorting madman who punches babies and eats rat poision for breakfast.
MrHateful - 7/13/2010, 4:25 PM
EMILY BLUNT IS... HOOOOT!:P
AlexDeLarge666 - 7/13/2010, 4:39 PM
NO ROBIN.
NO JOKER.
NO RIDDLER.
NO KEVIN FEIGE.
NO ROBIN WILLIAMS.
OSCURO - 7/13/2010, 8:48 PM
Yes, Heath Ledger was the definitive "Joker." There won't be a need to introduce a new actor to the role for this series of "Batman" films... With that said, I believe that only 1 man could play the role to it's full potential... Joseph-Gordon Levitt. Not only is he damn-near identical, he is an excellent actor. Screw Johnny Depp as "The Riddler." I think that "The Riddler" should be someone a bit younger, Ryan Gosseling perhaps? If Johnny Depp were to be in these movies, he should be Hush (which, I feel, is the only way to go for this series of films).
Jake Overton - 7/13/2010, 9:59 PM
AMEN! @ GUNSMITH and wolverinesfury!

See the villains should be: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Joker, Kristen Bell(or whoever, just an idea) as Harley Quinn, Johnny Depp (Or whoever as well) as The Riddler. Joker is in arkham, driving Dr. Quinzel bonkers, she falls in love with him helps him escape. all the while the riddler helps the Gotham fuzz bring Bats while Bats is trying to avoid the police while trying to stop the Joker, once and for all. The End. like wolverinesfury said, the joker was MEANT to be in it. he is Batman's arch-nemesis. the movie wouldn't make sense if he WASN'T in it. am i right? any thoughts
LIMBO - 7/14/2010, 12:36 PM
@AlexDeLarge666 - Good job! I have no use for Black Mask, though.

@OSCURO - It's not fair to blackball Robin Williams when Jim Carrey had a shot! If Williams had been cast as the Riddler the first time around, we might not have gotten the ridiculous performance that Carrey put on!

Having said that, I think that in a Nolan-directed Batman film, Williams would have enough sense to play the character seriously without the cheese factor and goof-free!
JonF - 7/14/2010, 4:28 PM
What NOLAN will most likely do

1.Riddler (Cop gone mad)
2. Hush (Assassin hired by mob)
3. Black Mask (Mob leader)

Don't question it. thier the most realistic characters.
And Hush has already been talked about by NOLAN with LEONARDO DI CAPRIO.
But then again. NOLAN has been known to surprise the audience.
XxBatmanCrusaderxX - 7/14/2010, 9:39 PM
(Thanks dancingmonkey08!)

Here's what Nolan SAID he WON'T do because he doesn't like the character:

Cat Woman.

Are you KIDDING ME?!? Cat Woman (Done Christopher Nolan style, of course) would be the absolute BEST character to have in BM3. I can't believe that a director and writer as brilliant as Nolan would rule out Cat Woman as a major character. She would be PERFECT for BM3 and here's why:

Remember the scene in Dark Knight where Bruce Wayne is stitching himself up after getting bit by a dog and he's talking to Alfred? I can't remember if the line is "Bat Man has no weaknesses" or "Bat Man" has no limits" but either way this is a perfect setup for what should happen in BM3. Obviously, when it comes to money Bruce has no limits, he physically has no limits (he kicks the crap out of everyone) and he mentally has no limits (he is ninja trained after all), so what is Batman's weakness?

LOVE.

(They even mention CATS in that very scene!!! Go back and watch it again!!!)

LOVE. Love is Batman's ultimate weakness! He would give anything to have his family back, but he can't, and he'd have given anything to save Rachael, but he failed and now she's dead. He sacrifices "Batman" as an icon of justice in order to protect the integrity of Harvey Dent in the public's eye at the end of the Dark Knight because having people retain "hope" is more important in the long run than Bat Man. He's lost EVERYTHING that was important to him.

So we get to episode 3. Batman is on the run, he is vilified, and he is hated. He is all alone, he has lost everyone who is important to him - save maybe Alfred. The psychological and physical challenge for Batman is to somehow clear Batman's good name, but at the same time his past is driving him mad because what he would really like to do is retire Bat Man and just try and have some kind of a normal life. But, doing so is a next to impossible task with criminals like [insert your favorite bad guy here].

Now, along comes Cat Woman. She may be on the wrong side of the law, but she is much like him in many ways, and he can't help but be attracted to her. She is beautiful, powerful, sexy, smart as hell, and there really isn't a ton of difference between them except that crime forced him to become an agent of justice, but crime forced her to take care of herself.

That's his downfall, or at least the challenge he needs to overcome in order for him to defeat whatever "bad guys" are in BM3 and restore his name.

The ONLY weakness Bat Man really has is fear of being alone and without a family. It's what made him become Batman in the first place, and if he had a temptation to fall in love and find a way OUT of that fate, even if it's with the wrong woman, I'd say that would be the hardest demon for him to fight.

Cat Woman would be Bat Man's "last temptation", and I couldn't think of a better way to REALLY put Bat Man in peril than to fall in love with a dangerous woman.

We'll see what Nolan does, but if the "Cat" reference in Dark Knight was an "accident" and he doesn't pick up on that in BM3, then he has totally missed the boat - in my opinion.

Somehow I think Nolan's got a plan up his sleeve, but, we'll just have to wait and see...

Come on! I don't want a really good Bat Man 3, I want an AWESOME Bat Man 3.

Cat Woman is the way to do it. Totally.

Peace. Louis.
lsc9x - 7/15/2010, 8:48 PM
MY PLOT
ok im going to go all out

the movie is going to obviously be the nolan batman movie style - more realistic
but after heath ledgers joker portrayel i know nobody will live up to that. i trust nolan to have great actors but i think the movie still needs to find a way to go out with a bang. im thinking there needs to be multiple villians Making the most out of the DC COMIC now terrorized city. the movie will have to be quite long but with so much goin on i doubt people will have a problem with that. i think the movie should have a few big name villians in the movie.that will excite people. the thing is the charectors will have to share the same level of importance in the film(Just idenified as villians) like the cartoon but it is known that they have created big names for themselves over the years not shown in the movie. catwoman would be like she is the cartoon sexy but less cheesy more hellbent more ignorant far from a hero, but as good as a hero gets in a city like this. she will be batmans love intrest and he has let her get away multiple times due to the city needing all the help it can get. he lets alot more slip by because thestory revolves around him not being able to control the city,he had his victories but he is exuasted and getting used to(conditioned)to being inadequate. crime is gothams theme. batman has jsut been slowing down the villians like he did to joker. the city hates him enough to where he cantstand on buildings any more he has to be indigenous like the villians. batman isnt giving up he is just unmotivated too used to the ongoing cycle. bruce wayne has no life he just signs checks and smiles at the public. the villians arent afraid of batman to much hes just a bother. they have become too common and too strong.when batman arrives the supervillians attitude is poor batman like a zombie forcing himself killing himself for a city that hes opposite of. the police bascilly just protect the higher class of gotham and are really the only force of good.but they dont cross into some neigherborhods such as the ones penguin rules. pengin is mob boss with no charm no enthusiasm sick obnoxious fat heartless money launderer who apprecites the finer things.not like joker. who defintly runs the city. a great actor no big name.who can give a perosnality that is selfish and unlikeable. he has never been touched he is far greater than the first mob boss from batmin begins. he allows the other villains to roam free and recieve henchman and weapons. riddler is the last villian batman faces who threatens to reveal his idenity and gives puzzles lucious fox and batman follow. the story ends with batman defeating riddler shortly after penguin. the movie never skips a beat very intense. jokers gangs are basiclly like crips in the city. very popular teens adults. joker is in assulym and wayne talks to caine how joker is still talented in how he influend harley quinn the theropist.saying how evils trumps good hopelessness. harley quinn isnt really in the movie but they show her in a video in that batlayer robbing a bank creating chaos with henchman. the only scenes that are shown in the movie are vital to the story no downtime. all the actors will have to give good performaces obviously in their screentime. well thought out costumes. the story is deep but basic batman(control) fighting struggling verse all villains(chaos). thought batman is defintly the main charecter notlike dark knight. joker symbolized how powerful and inevitable evil is in the dark knight passed on to penguin,riddler,Zsasz. batman cant just go from struggle to success. he has to change the root problem. he faces his fear and puts it all on the line to save the city. he faces the city after he defeates riddler saying how " They will keep coming. they will never stop. theres an endless number of people out there that will make the wrong choices. do the wrong things. get money in the wrong ways. i have fought to keepthis city in balance. but it doesnt matter. there is enough good people in this city to overthrow corruption. but theres fear. this city has always been afraid. This isnt jokers city this isnt penguins city. this is our city. penguin only used your power to give him power. joker used your fear. but there afraid just like you people. their afraid of you. their afraid of you people to take your power back. im facing my fear today. but this has to stop. you wonder what your power is its your word. say no. say we wont no longer live in fear. joker knew fear was power, it had the power to keep people from doing what they knew they should of been doing. standing up. people are afriad of fighing alone. nobody will stand up by themselves therefore nobody will standup. i stoodup but im but one man, i dont have the power you have. money isnt power i was the richist man in this city and i couldnt stop crime.(takes off mask). im not afraid anymore i wont hide anymore. so now what will you do with your power? arrest me?......... its time for you Gotham to make the choice. do there need to be any more masks in this city. or are we safe?. bruce wayne gets arrested and during his court hearing. all the citizens poor and rich crash the courthouse. symblolizing the people standing up agasint the order. bruce wayne gets sentenced. the people dont use violence. the movie fastfoward to when bruce wayne gets released. the rest of the mob bosses were overthrown. the city cleaned out the joker gangs. the city cleaned up. and bruce wayne is in the back of the rolls royce. and alred is driving talking quitely to wayne not saying anything too much important. and wayne says why are we taking this path, the "something something" is that way. and alfred turns around with a fulfilled smile and whispers "this path is safe to drive through now" and the movie ends.



casting suggestions

penguin hudson campbell


catwoman marion cottilard


riddler barry pepper


i havnt done research toomuch on a coupleactors
i think the main thing is talent for the male actors
and forcatwoman aprettyoman who can act
with that obssesive attitude
versatile


p.s if this ever got published i would be a cameo in the joker gang
thesupremedeity - 7/16/2010, 4:12 AM
That's garbage, someone else should get a crack at the Joker
NinjaCarm - 7/17/2010, 11:33 AM
That's garbage, someone else should get a crack at the Joker
NinjaCarm - 7/17/2010, 11:33 AM
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OSCURO - 7/17/2010, 11:53 AM
I would love to see Joseph Gordon-Levitt as The Riddler. He'd be amazing! I agree with Nolan, Heath was the definitive Joker. He was awesome. IMO nobody could do it better.
BlackCanary19 - 7/18/2010, 5:29 PM
No one will recast joker. not only is that a wrong thing to do but it would mess everyting up.
XxBatmanCrusaderxX - 7/20/2010, 7:51 AM
1.HUSH(assassin hired by mob)
2.BLACK MASK(new mob leader)
3.RIDDLER(cop gone mad)

These are the best villisans. More people like these villians than those who hate. SO GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XxBatmanCrusaderxX - 7/20/2010, 8:03 AM
AsianAvenger your wrong! Heath was MASSIVELY overrated! he can very easily be replaced. I'm sick of this crap about how he was the best Joker BS!
Whiteharted - 7/25/2010, 1:57 PM
@Fartman, you have BLOWN my mind....................THATS BRILIANT!!!!!!
TheSoulEater - 8/4/2010, 1:20 AM
The people don´t learn...
Nolan NEVER will use Catwoman!!!
Forget it!
balegirlbrazil - 8/26/2010, 7:29 AM
Tes DaGreat - 9/1/2010, 11:04 AM

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