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THEDARKNIGHT100
THEDARKNIGHT100 - 5/8/2012, 1:03 PM
WHY IS THIS STILL OUT NOT LIKE IT WAS A BAD MOVIE OR ANYTHING BUT WHY?
l0rdleg0las
l0rdleg0las - 5/8/2012, 1:14 PM
how the hell did Disney lose money when this has made a total of almost 280 million?

i mean sure it cost 200 million to make and probably another 25 million to market, but it should have at least broken even
jerichomccune
jerichomccune - 5/8/2012, 1:19 PM
The 280 million has to be split with the theaters. Plus, marketing costs have been reported as anywhere between 80-100 million.
SephirothUK
SephirothUK - 5/8/2012, 1:23 PM
the theatre chains supposedly take 50% of the earnings so JC ($250mil budget + $100mil [frick]-awful marketing) needed to be in the $700mil range to 'break even'. I personally really enjoyed it but I think it will eventually find its audience on DVD/BR, its sorta like the modern day Dune
BJD
BJD - 5/8/2012, 1:38 PM
I still don't get how this movie lost money at all...it was actually pretty decent. Maybe releasing an expensive blockbuster in March wasn't the smartest idea....I don't know if that's even been done before
jazzman
jazzman - 5/8/2012, 2:01 PM
@l0rdleg0las

actual they lost alot of money the movie hard to make back loads more then its budget.
DoomXfactor
DoomXfactor - 5/8/2012, 2:12 PM
[frick] how much it made. It was a good movie
csdot
csdot - 5/8/2012, 2:17 PM
Bradbury?
santoanderson
santoanderson - 5/8/2012, 2:19 PM
Production budget was around $250 million. Marketing cost probably another $80-$100 million.
santoanderson
santoanderson - 5/8/2012, 2:19 PM
Yeah, John Carter is a Burrows tale.
marccampos
marccampos - 5/8/2012, 2:20 PM
Bradbury?
CaptainObvious
CaptainObvious - 5/8/2012, 2:25 PM
"Bradbury science fiction spectacle"
John Carter was created by Edgar Rice Burrough, not Ray Bradbury.

Anyway, it still bombed.
Bumble
Bumble - 5/8/2012, 2:28 PM
didn't even make an attempt to see it. i've always found kitsch's acting to be very flat and dry and the trailors did nothing to prove anything different to me. i don't know; i just never got very excited for this film. there was nothing there that really drew me in and said, "you HAVE to see this movie!"
cabbie655
cabbie655 - 5/8/2012, 2:39 PM
I saw John Carter and enjoyed. It has actually made good money overseas.
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/8/2012, 2:41 PM
i thought john carter was pretty good,it deserves to do better.
pintoman
pintoman - 5/8/2012, 2:43 PM
Yeah, Bradbury? LOL.

Try Edgar Rice Burroughs!
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 5/8/2012, 2:53 PM
They say a film should make 3 times its budget to be considered successful, John Carter didn't do that.
BlairCo
BlairCo - 5/8/2012, 3:31 PM
Nice that Disney is taking advantage of Paramount.
Boekelaar
Boekelaar - 5/8/2012, 3:36 PM
I saw it in a double bill with Killer Elite, wasn't a bad movie but with such a high budget I expected more. And yeah it had a $100 million marketing budget, which was actually quite bad. The trailers turned me off from seeing it and when I was watching the film I kept wondering why they didn't higlight these awesome moments.

But anyway, AVENGERS!
RacerREX
RacerREX - 5/8/2012, 3:38 PM
This movie was actually pretty damn good. But Disney should have kept the budget closer to $150 million. The source material was not well known by the general public. I draw parallels to how the Speed Racer movie performed, althought that movie was nowhere near as good as John Carter. And it's generally considered that for a movie to be profitable it needs to make twice the production and marketing budget. Not 3 times. With Bluray and dvd sales this movie could break even. Or eke out a tiny profit. I wouldn't rule out JC2 with a more reasonable budget. Andrew Stanton already has the trilogy mapped out.
pro346
pro346 - 5/8/2012, 3:39 PM
@cherry bomb its very rare for a movie to make 3 times its budget back......
HulkPool
HulkPool - 5/8/2012, 3:57 PM
Well Thor 2 is gonna b released in November and I don't think that will hurt it at all!
RedBaron96
RedBaron96 - 5/8/2012, 3:58 PM
Our family loved John Carter. we paid to see it twice. I waited nearly 30 years to see this movie. My husband, our 10 year old daughter and 7 year old son loved it as well (the 2 year old clapped a few times). I'm really glad to see it's still gathering fans. We weren't planning on watching Avenger in the theater, but if I can find a double feature around here, we might catch it.

The problem was the lack of proper marketing. I almost missed it, thinking it was still opening in June.
JackBauer
JackBauer - 5/8/2012, 4:18 PM
A good rule of thumb is that a movie needs to double it's budget to break even. That figure would include the marketing budget as well as the theaters' take.

As for John Carter, it is a good movie, could've been better. And it's Burroughs, not Bradbury :)
NoAssemblyReqd
NoAssemblyReqd - 5/8/2012, 4:24 PM
I've got my JOHN CARTER 3D Blu Ray pre-ordered. It'll keep me happy until the rest of the summer's movies open.
SkaarJones
SkaarJones - 5/8/2012, 5:45 PM
John Carter was a good flick. Sucks that it wasn't a bigger draw, but some of the marketing was kind of weak.
pro346
pro346 - 5/8/2012, 7:45 PM
Some of the best movies ever released didn't do well at the box office.
Varmintkiller2
Varmintkiller2 - 5/8/2012, 7:51 PM
I likes JC! i hope it will still get JC2!
YakeTheSnake
YakeTheSnake - 5/8/2012, 7:58 PM
hat's just how awesome "The Avengers" is... LOL
astromerc
astromerc - 5/8/2012, 8:29 PM
"Bradbury science fiction spectacle?"

It's Rice Burroughs...Mor**
peppy
peppy - 5/8/2012, 9:26 PM
John carter was a great film , its was so sad to see the film not do as well as I hoped . Honestly I think it came down to marketing
peppy
peppy - 5/8/2012, 9:29 PM
Plus the title change from " john carter of mars " to just " John carter " didn't help . But really who knows
Ceejay
Ceejay - 5/8/2012, 9:49 PM
John Carter has made more money internationally than reported, nearly all the main box office tracking sites don't include the Chinese box office where it has made over $41 million. Barely gonna make a difference to the fact that it's flopped due to Disneys awful marketing and rebranding of the title leaving audiences clueless to what its about.

How you can have an actress as hot as how Lynn Collins looks in the movie and NOT use her as a selling point in any of the posters is beyond me!
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