SCOOP: "Leviathan" In Avengers Will Indeed Be A Sea-Monster

VFX Source: "Avengers will be fighting a giant sea monster called Leviathan." This news leads me to believe that we have our answer as to who will be making up Loki's army.

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By Mark Julian - 9/3/2011
Speculation has been running wild as to what the "Leviathan" actually is that is referred to in the Avengers callsheet. I came across this information earlier today before we had the shooting schedule and was reluctant to post because my source was also skeptical as this "sea-monster" news came totally out of left field [This was before we got the shooting schedule] . But with the release of The Avengers shooting schedule/callSheet it looks like the information was indeed true.


Early today, I was able to gather some Avengers set photos from @JimboMont who first reported that Stan Lee was on set amidst his other investigations and asked some questions to the local crew working on the film. I've had some discussion with him and in addition to the photo's he posted for me [which you can see here], he was able to gather some very unexpected information. Here's what he was told.


At first he was very skeptical as was I, seeing as how a giant sea monster seemed kind of a stretch, even for The Avengers but now that we have the callsheet and shooting schedule confirming it appears that they will indeed be fighting a creature based on the mythological legend.

Analyzing this information even further, I believe the revelation of The Leviathan has also strengthened the idea that the "army" or at least a portion of Loki's army will be made up of "The Atlanteans."

Let us not forget that Iron Man 2 heavily hinted at Namor and the Atlanteans!

HINT #1:


The scene in Iron Man 2, where Tony Stark meets with S.H.I.E.L.D. Director Nick Fury to discuss joining the Avengers, four holographic screens, were shown representing various people and places essential to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. When juxtaposing the movie map to Marvel's map of Atlantis, the location is spot on to be Namor's private quarters.

Also, notice that while Namor's "base of operations" is in the far south of the map, the city of Atlantis is very close to New York, where the majority of The Avengers will take place.


HINT #2:


Oracle logos were spotted throughout the Stark Expo in Iron Man 2. You can clearly see this during the final battle between Iron Man, War Machine, Whiplash and the Iron Man drones. Oracle's CEO also had an early cameo and introduced himself and his company to Tony Stark. In Marvel Comics continuity, Prince Namor owns a corporation named Oracle which he uses for an environmental protection agenda.

HINT #3:Also, for those who say Namor is owned by Fox through the Fantastic Four, not so fast. Namor was a character who was originally set to have his own feature film adaption from Universal Studios but they lost the rights to the character in 2009 and Marvel Chief Kevin Feige previously confirmed in an interview with Collider [which you can read here]that Universal Studios presently has no rights to any Marvel characters. So I'd say that's a definitive answer that Namor is back in the Marvel camp. Also, I'll be taking a look at that failed Namor movie in the next installment of Looking Back.

HINT #4: In the very earliest of Namor's Marvel Comics history [albeit in Fantastic Four] he attacked New York with a gigantic sea creature summoned by an Atlantean horn. It's called Giganto but you aren't really going to call a giant whale-like monster Giganto in this day and age.[Leviathan anyone?]

HINT #5: In Avengers #3 1963, Namor and Hulk team up to fight the Avengers. After Hulk quits the team because they want him to wear clothes [Note, Mark Ruffalo has previously said Hulk will be running around naked. And Hulk quitting the team, albeit probably temporarily, because they want him to wear clothes definitely sounds like Joss Whedon humor to me.] Hulk ends up fighting against The Avengers alongside Namor, and they almost won that fight.

While, it's basically confirmed that the Leviathan is indeed a sea-monster, the thoughts above about the Atlanteans being members of Loki's army is based on the evidence I've collected and has not been confirmed.
Still, I know I wouldn't be surprised if we got a quick glimpse of Namor in the film. Marvel Studios won't be making Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor films forever. They must develop other properties to keep the Marvel Cinematic Universe alive and the most likely candidates are the characters previously hinted at before in Iron Man 2, namely Namor and Black Panther.

Lastly, I want to throw out there that Joss Whedon and Tom Hiddleston have both said that Loki has gone across the 9 realms, space, and earth between the events of Thor and The Avengers. Who's to say that his army will be composed of a single race/species instead of a collective of beings found throughout his travels?



Leviathan/Giganto coming to an Avenger screen May 4, 2012.



The Avengers is a team of superheroes, appearing in magazines published by Marvel Comics. The team made its debut in The Avengers #1 (Sept. 1963), and was created by writer-editor Stan Lee and artist / co-plotter Jack Kirby, following the trend of super-hero teams after the success of DC Comics with the Justice League.

The Avengers is a team of superheroes, appearing in magazines published by Marvel Comics. The team made its debut in The Avengers #1 (Sept. 1963), and was created by writer-editor Stan Lee and artist / co-plotter Jack Kirby, following the trend of super-hero teams after the success of DC Comics with the Justice League.

The Avengers is an upcoming American superhero film produced by Marvel Studios and distributed by Walt Disney Pictures, based upon the Marvel Comics superhero team of the same name. It is part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which crosses over several Marvel superhero films including Iron Man (2008), The Incredible Hulk (2008), Iron Man 2 (2010), Thor (2011) and Captain America: The First Avenger (2011). The film is written and directed by Joss Whedon and features an ensemble cast, which includes Robert Downey, Jr., Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiddleston, Samuel L. Jackson, Scarlett Johansson, Jeremy Renner, Mark Ruffalo and Cobie Smulders. The Avengers tells the story of Nick Fury, director of the peacekeeping organization S.H.I.E.L.D., who recruits Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America to save the world from destruction.

Development of The Avengers began when Marvel Studios received a grant from Merrill Lynch in April 2005. After the success of the film Iron Man, Marvel announced that The Avengers would be released in July 2011. With the signing of Scarlett Johansson in March 2009, the film was pushed back for a 2012 release. Whedon was brought on board in April 2010 and rewrote the screenplay that was originally written by Zak Penn. Production began in April 2011 in Albuquerque, New Mexico before moving to Cleveland, Ohio in August.

The Avengers is scheduled to be released on May 4, 2012 in the United States.



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Bread - 9/3/2011, 11:34 PM
pants or GTFO
Spilox - 9/3/2011, 11:34 PM
Atlanteans!
BooYah - 9/3/2011, 11:40 PM
I wouldnt blame them for changing Fin Fang Foom's name if he is the villain. It is quite ridiculous.
VanCityKid - 9/3/2011, 11:40 PM
"Tom Hiddleston have both said that Loki has gone across the 9 realms, space, and earth between the events of Thor and The Avengers. Who's to say that his army will be composed of a single race/species instead of a collective of beings found throughout his travels?"


THAT is something we should consider....

Gnyah123 - 9/3/2011, 11:44 PM
so is this a monster that loki n thor kno about? is it a monster loki already had....at the end of the day i think and say its just a rumor til i see the trailer
same with batman!
AND at LEAST let the monster have Feet i mean how do they plan on fighting it..if its a sea monster..they gon have or use the avenger jet? idk mann
i kinda wan see a big monster but no sea monster
Luther - 9/3/2011, 11:45 PM
..I hope you guys aren't seriously liking this idea. This....sounds HORRIFIC. hahahaha..so much for the your "epic cbm"..the CBM to end all CBMs? ...not the Avengers. It just sounds like a humongous clusterf**k.

I remember reading someones comment a few posts/threads ago "People familiar with Whedon aren't bashing him, it's only those who aren't familiar with his work who consider him a hack" ...well...hack is a tricky word. Seeing that opinions always factor into how one judges the directors/artists, we'll never have people unanimously agreeing. But I'll say, I don't think he was right for this movie. Maybe a Thor sequel, or the Fantastic Four reboot, or DC's Martian Manhunter. Not this though...
DEATHbyEXILE - 9/3/2011, 11:49 PM
BooYah - 9/3/2011, 11:50 PM
@Luther- How is this the "clusterf**k"? Only two villains; Loki and Leviathan. Plus Leviathan doesnt need a back story he can just be controlled by Loki. If you ask me I think Batman will be the movie with too much going on. Theres Bane, Catwoman, and the Al Ghuls family.
TayDee - 9/3/2011, 11:50 PM
Why would marvel [frick] up the avengers by doing something stupid like this
Tainted87 - 9/3/2011, 11:50 PM
Kids, if Namor was going to be in it, you know, Marvel's FIRST comic book hero... don't you think we'd have an actor attached to play him?

I'm not understanding how someone's crazy fan-rant/conjecture can be taken so seriously.

Don't we think that if there was a giant sea monster, that there would be trucks blasting water all over the streets to simulate the effect?
Mrcool210 - 9/3/2011, 11:54 PM
please no this is just dumb
95 - 9/3/2011, 11:55 PM
Can't be true. Leviathan is just the name of the alien mothership.

I think the story will be a hybrid of the 616 and Ultimate universes, sprinkled with something new by Director Whedon.

Loki is transported, via wormhole, to an abandoned dimension [Negative Zone?]. There he meets the Chitauri...

Who are deviant DNA offshoots of the Skrulls, and do their criminal/pirate behavior the Skrull Empire cast them out.

And with Loki as their leader, they seek Earth as their own.

But Atlanteans and a sea monster are cool for a Thor movie, but not The Avengers.

95 - 9/3/2011, 11:57 PM
EDIT:
and do to their criminal/pirate like behavior
Luther - 9/3/2011, 11:58 PM
..if done right..and the tone of the movie (and PREVIOUS MOVIES THAT LEAD UP TO IT) fit, it can work. This, seriously, just sounds waaaayyyy too farfetched. All I can say is, we'll see.
AVEN - 9/3/2011, 11:58 PM
'This is bullshit'

At least I hope so :(
Tainted87 - 9/3/2011, 11:59 PM
@3D
No, they wouldn't. Why are we associating Atlanteans with Thor now? Thor doesn't operate underwater... at all. Tell me what the god of thunder is going to do in Namor's domain....
95 - 9/4/2011, 12:00 AM
EDIT:
and due to their*

[frick]ing keep messing up, sorry.
TruthNoFodder - 9/4/2011, 12:02 AM
Hmmm.
Luther - 9/4/2011, 12:03 AM
..and also..Loki and Leviathan and other Alien races. So..we have a God of Mischief, races of Aliens, and a giant sea monster possibly backed by Atlanteans and maybe Namor (which he alone, WOULD be pretty cool to see btw), as the villains. And you think Bane, Al Ghuls, Catowoman, and whoever JGL is, is more clusterf**ked? I dunno, the latter seems more....fitting.

That's of course if this rumor is true.
TorturedXGenius - 9/4/2011, 12:03 AM
WE DONT BELIEVE YOU, YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE!!
Montross - 9/4/2011, 12:05 AM
it's not that far fetched when you think about it. Jormungandr, anyone?
BooYah - 9/4/2011, 12:07 AM
Well I didn't say anything about JGL but each one of those characters needs a back story where Loki story you already know it Sea monster can just be controlled by Loki and alien race is just Loki henchmen they aren't important. Of course I agree that the idea of a sea monster is a little extreme.
Tainted87 - 9/4/2011, 12:11 AM
@logicoflame
For real. We're all gonna see both movies regardless.

Still wondering how someone can just figure this is somehow linked to Atlantis, or Namor for that matter...

Namor would be GREAT. He shouldn't cameo though. He's the oldest Marvel character to date, I think he'd have a bigger role than "oh shiz, Loki jacked the Kraken, I guess I'll help you surface-dwellers... for now"
BooYah - 9/4/2011, 12:12 AM
@logicoflame- No one is making it a DC vs Marvel thing. Me and Luther are just having a conversation about 2 movies that may have too much going on. Neither one of us is trolling.
95 - 9/4/2011, 12:12 AM
@Tainted87

You're not getting my point. Plus who [frick]ing said Thor would be underwater? The Atlanteans could very well invaded New York [land] in Thor 2. Seeing Thor tear up a monster is better than watching five heros [frick]ing destroy an army of fish people and a monster. My point is: The Atlanteans don't make sense for The Avengers because the threat has been pointed out to be "alien". Anyway, why are you questioning me?
DDD - 9/4/2011, 12:24 AM
Of course the aliens the AVENGERS are fighting
are probably just aliens LOKI is using to attack
THE AVENGERS. No one knows who they are!

No one knows what LEVIATHAN is either. It's just
a damn generic CODE WORD! All this WILD conjecture
is really getting stupid!

All this crap just makes my poor damn head HURT!
COME ON PEOPLE! WTF???
mquitney - 9/4/2011, 12:28 AM
Kind of reminds me of back when Cloverfield was rumored to be a Voltron movie
pOoPEE - 9/4/2011, 12:28 AM
Hmmm lol I wonder if its a fire breathing seao monster dragon as that would explain the fire balls being filmed lol :P

The fact they have spears makes alot of sense they are atlantian but who is to say they cant be Atlantian but still from another planet. Loki could bring Atlantians from there home planet, may already be many living here for a long time like Namor who might be against the invasion.

But nah its just a con to keep us guessing :P
pOoPEE - 9/4/2011, 12:30 AM
Maybe shield only knows about the invasion because Namor tipped sheild off when he was told what was happening :-)
Vital - 9/4/2011, 12:31 AM
Big surprise, Intruder being an asshole.

Okay Graphic City, I'll bite. I'm down with this theory. Everyone keeps denying the Skrulls, so I guess this is a possibility. Good investigative work too btw. You know what's sad is that you spent all this time making sure there were facts to back up this news theory, and yet no one is being appreciative of it. Kinda [frick]ed up. Especially from the veteran members who should be more respectful (or you would think they would be). (Yes, I am hinting at people like Intruder.)
NO respect, it's sad.

Good stuff though Graphic. Keep it comin' buddy :)


DDD - 9/4/2011, 12:32 AM
NAMOR shouldn't come until AVENGERS 3.

AVENGERS 2 should be ULTRON when they bring
HANK & JAN in.

AVENGERS 3 should be THE SKRULLS! LOT'S &
LOTS OF SKRULLS! lol
Then they can bring NAMOR in to help fight
them and defend earth.

BTW, I can't understand those who want
ZACHARY QUINTO to play NAMOR. He's a scrawny
midge! They need someone to play him like
this guy, ETIC BANA. He's muscular and almost
6'3".

Photobucket
Vital - 9/4/2011, 12:33 AM
And I like the idea of them possibly showing Namor out of nowhere, with us, the audience, pleasantly surprised cause we weren't expecting it. (Well I suppose we would be now, if this turns out to be true lol). Doh!
adanthebeast - 9/4/2011, 12:36 AM
Joss Whedon this is your big idea!!
I'm pissed off if this rumor is true
GodzillaKart - 9/4/2011, 12:37 AM
F UCK YES. I HOPE THIS IS TRUE! SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE SKRULLS!!!!
GodzillaKart - 9/4/2011, 12:38 AM
I MEAN, MOUNTAINS UPON MOUNTAINS OF AWESOMENESS BETTER THAN THE SKRULLS!
GodzillaKart - 9/4/2011, 12:39 AM
ONE HAS TO HOPE THAT IT IS NOT THE SKRULLS, FOR JOSH'S SAKE, BECAUSE THEY WILL SEEM SO F UCKING LAME NEXT TO THE POSSIBILITY OF ALANTIANS!!!!!!!!
Vital - 9/4/2011, 12:40 AM
@DDD, Did you pick Eric Bana cause he had pointy ears in Star Trek lol? I hate when people think an actor who played one character that kinda resembles another character should be casted. Like the whole JGL as The Crow cause of how he appears in Hesher. I mean come on, could you get any more uncreative and band wagony lol? That's exactly the same as picking Zachary Quinto as Namor cause of his Vulcan look. It's [frick]ing stupid and the filmmakers would never allow it. Namor would look like a Vulcan(and people would only see Namor as that if either of those actors played the part). It's like a bad filmmaker etiquette. You get what I'm saying? That's like having Heath play The Crow cause of how he looked as The Joker. It's a no no.
GodzillaKart - 9/4/2011, 12:40 AM
With what do you back that guarantee, Logicoflame?
GodzillaKart - 9/4/2011, 12:42 AM
Hmmm. You're right, VItal. I never thought about how much Heath looked like the Crow.
95 - 9/4/2011, 12:48 AM
@Vital: Uncreative casting. Yeah, we have alot of that on here. Fan cast are fantasy cast. I've gotten used to it.
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