TDKR: Politics, Movies And Censorship; When Billions Are At Stake, How Far Is Too Far?

A Time Warner shareholder has expressed concern over actor Morgan Freeman's political views and says subsidiary Warner Bros. should take steps to 'ensure Morgan buttoned his lip' while promoting The Dark Knight Rises. Is this going too far?

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By Mark Julian - 5/16/2012


Time Warner is the parent company of Warner Bros., for all intents and purposes, they are what Disney is to Marvel. So when a Time Warner shareholder makes a statement, Warner Bros. naturally has to listen. In this instance, Time Warner shareholder David Ridenour accussed actor Morgan Freeman of using the press tour for A Dolphin's Tale to promote his own political views, citing a CNN interview with Piers Morgan in September of 2011. On CNN, Freeman made a statement insinuating that the rightwing Tea Party movement is racist. Ridenour referenced a study which indicates that " US filmgoers of all persuasions are less likely to view films featuring stars who express political opinions differing from their own." At the shareholders meeting Ridenour (who by happenstance, runs a conservative thinktank) asked, "What specific steps will Time Warner take to ensure that Mr Freeman avoids such divisive and insulting words while promoting his next Warner Bros film, The Dark Knight Rises?"

Time Warner CEO Jeff Bewkes quickly recognized the controversial ember smoldering in front of him and quickly cooled the situation before a full-blown media wildfire could erupt. Said Bewkes, ""What can we do about it? Is that the question? Not much," he said, to a smattering of applause. "It doesn't usually have a significant commercial effect on the success of the film."

This definitely had the potential to become a media frenzy, especially with Presidential campaigns gearing in the main American politicalcamps. For us here on CBM, I wondered, is there something a star, actor or director can do, out in the public eye, that will make you boycott their films. It wasn't too long ago that actor Christian Bale had a now infamous tirade onset and it wasn't all that long ago that actor Robert Downey Jr. was a substance abuser. Samuel L. Jackson, Matthew Modine, Mel Gibson, Sean Penn, Peter Berg, Mickey Rourke and many other actors and actresses have found themselves in controversy at some point or another which has had varying effects on their careers. For some it enhanced their star power and box office pull, while others suddenly found themselves unable to land a role. My question for you guys is, "If an actor in a CBM makes a statement or controversial act that goes against something you strongly believe in, will you not see that actors film?" If they say something against your beliefs on race, religion, the LGBT community, etc. is that grounds for a boycott?






Source: The Guardian
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RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 5/16/2012, 9:12 AM
I understand from the standpoint that, the studio isn't paying you money for go off on political tangents. An actor get's paid by the studio to do all the press tours, so I have no problem with the studio requesting an actor not to touch on certain subjects. However, if he wasn't being paid by the studio I would have a little more of a problem with it.
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 9:13 AM
let the man have his opinion,man wb is getting worse that this site lmao.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 5/16/2012, 9:14 AM
I couldn't care less about either guys political affiliation and they can believe what they want. I understand from the shareholders perspective that you don't want to alienate any of the audience. There is a time an a place for politics, and promoting a movie isn't one of them.
WorldsGreatestdetective - 5/16/2012, 9:15 AM
I mean he is an actor so I don't really care how wrong his political views and understanding is
skidz - 5/16/2012, 9:17 AM
It's free speech. I doubt he's going to piss off the fanbase on purpose.
Netman0007 - 5/16/2012, 9:17 AM
I could give a rat's ass about an actor's political beliefs, I'm usually too in love with who they are pretending to be on screen to care anyway lol. And as for Downey and Mel and Bale, etc,....they are just people. Hell, all of 'em are. Everyone makes mistakes, only difference is some of us don't have the whole world scrutinizing us for them.
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 9:17 AM
i know nfl players have a claues in their contracts about this and that.but i have never heard of an actor having them.

ps love this guys work.

and your plan is to blackmail this man..... good luck.
BIGBMH - 5/16/2012, 9:19 AM
I can understand why a company or organization wouldn't want a high profile person who is involved with them making any controversial statements. He should be able to say what he wants, just not when he'sdirectly doing something involved with the movie because then he's serving as a representative of more than just himself.
Greengo - 5/16/2012, 9:21 AM
He does alienate some of the fanbase.

Then again Ruffalo is a liberal whacko too and Avengers still did good.

marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 9:21 AM
Ironman53 - 5/16/2012, 9:16 AM
Report Comment Marknjoanna, this is the best site on the interweb...Are you trying to get banned?

not really but w/e

SirWinsalot - 5/16/2012, 9:16 AM
Report Comment @marlnjoanna I see you're still here huh? I guess that means you'll be one of those regular trolls creeping around TDKR articles doesn't it?

as long as i see nolanites bashing marvel threads.


yes.
Berger45 - 5/16/2012, 9:21 AM
I will still watch a movie though the actors are insane. I can still like the movie and so on but my opinon of them as persons if they are religious or/and(as it often is) conservative, I will hold them in a very low regard.
Greengo - 5/16/2012, 9:22 AM
I heard that Bale's rant affected the Terminator: Salvation gross so these guys should know when to holf their mud.
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 9:23 AM
SirWinsalot - 5/16/2012, 9:18 AM
Report Comment @marlnjoanna And be grateful you've made it this far. I would've banned your pasty ass the third time I heard that 8th movie bullshit

so you would ban the truth huh.or is it just when you dont like the truth.

RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 5/16/2012, 9:23 AM
@BIGBMH

Well said man. It makes complete sense that they would ask him not to use their summer tent pole as a platform to promote his political ideals. I don't think he would anyway, he didn't in 2008 or 2005. I think they are just reminding him, and I doubt Freeman has a real problem with it either. He understands the time and place to be political.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 5/16/2012, 9:24 AM
SirWinsalot

I would just ignore him man. Eventually he just goes away, trust me it's not worth the aggravation.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 5/16/2012, 9:25 AM
Great movie Ironman53. One of my favorites.
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 9:25 AM
love that movie to im53 top 100 of all time i think.

wonder who will false report this post 1st lmao.
Hellsing - 5/16/2012, 9:25 AM
don't really give a [frick] to be honest his views are HIS views, and its Morgan "GOD" damn Freemen he was the best part of Conan the Barbarian and that was a total piece of shit. I'll still go and watch the movies he's in, he's characters not the same on screen now is he.
evyllsummer - 5/16/2012, 9:26 AM
"They used to call me 'Crazy Joe', but now they can call me 'BATMAN'!"
RorMachine - 5/16/2012, 9:27 AM
If you can't separate your own beliefs - be they political, religious, whatever - from enjoying a movie then I honestly believe you have a screw loose. I think Tom Cruise is a complete whackjob, and his promotion of a cult is a terrible example to any young fans he might have, but I still enjoy his movies. One thing has absolutely nothing to do with the other. I mean I'd even see a Mel Gibson movie if I thought it looked really good, and he is a vile, bigoted, disgusting, woman beating maniac.
Hellsing - 5/16/2012, 9:27 AM
And he was talking about it during Dolphins Tale, hell he didn't have to do shit when TDK came out when there was a ton of reviews throwing political analogies towards the movie. So he doesn't have to actually say anything the movie will attract attention from politicians and the like, since you can clearly see some political under tones in TDKR
MassExecutions - 5/16/2012, 9:28 AM
Ditto to SirWinsalot.

WOW. Look at almost everybody making reasonable comments!
LucasMend - 5/16/2012, 9:28 AM
The actor job is to act on a film, if he says something that goes against my believes, I won't act like an idiot an try to boycott and not to watch the movie, everyone has their own believes, Why should I not watch a movie because of something an actor did or said? I will enjoy the movie, not his personal life or believes
MarkJulian - 5/16/2012, 9:29 AM
@Intruder LMAO
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 9:30 AM
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 5/16/2012, 9:24 AM
Report Comment SirWinsalot

I would just ignore him man. Eventually he just goes away, trust me it's not worth the aggravation

he got owned last nite you should all read his mishaps on the if joss dir. avengers two or not thread,

he just kept breaking the windows in his glass house then topped it off by sticking his foot in his mouth.

then ran like a lil school girl.it was a savage beat down and is fun reading enjoy.
Hellsing - 5/16/2012, 9:31 AM
I think the whole scientology thing is crazy but that did not stop me and ton of other people from watching MI4, dudes [frick]ing crazy but hands down he was funny as hell in Tropic Thunder and pretty god damn good in MI4. What evers actors believe is his, it has nothing to do with the role he plays in the movie Ethan Hunt was not a scientologist the last time I checked neither Grossman
HavocPrime - 5/16/2012, 9:32 AM
@ Greengo

But if Bale didn't do his rant we wouldn't have got this.
SteveRogersSon - 5/16/2012, 9:33 AM
Regardless of one's policial/social/religous stands..their actions and presence, while under the contract of an overarching corporation should be noticed and stated by said company. If the individual has a pretense of saying things that may be taken out of context, then YES the company should make it a part of the contract that said individual is a representation of that company's product or service.

As an individual, his/her opinion and stance is their own. This is something we read everyday on this site in regards to our tastes and thoughts... Will it stop the general public from seeing or using the product..it's possible, but not completely likely. Mel Gibson's alleged views were a double edged sword for him..as his movie "Passion of Christ" actually boosted from the positive/negative publicity; Gibson's career did take a hit..whether he's chosen to limit his Hollywood appearance because of it or not.

Will Mr. Freeman's "statements" stop moviegoers from seeing The BaleMan Rises? Most likely not as the movie's own merits will entice people to the theaters just as each of Marvel's movies has fueled The Avengers hype and has been validated.

To each their own...as always
RorMachine - 5/16/2012, 9:33 AM
monkeyballs3, agreed..there have to be some exceptions to the rule! [frick] Roman Polanski.
LoudNoises - 5/16/2012, 9:34 AM
He was on Piers Morgan. That guy is kinda known for asking some hard hitting questions and getting some controversial answers. If studios don't want their actors to say things that could possibly offend the viewers they should probably just avoid booking actors on his show while on their press tours, lol.
ThorOdinson - 5/16/2012, 9:34 AM
I'd like to make an analogy to the music industry. When Chris Brown beat his girlfriend Rihanna, did anyone stop buying his music? No, they didn't. I generally think "people" are incompetent and have a short term memory, they will be indifferent to this types of things after the fire has settled and will continue to see his movies even if they don't agree with his politics.

valeriesghost - 5/16/2012, 9:35 AM
freedom of speech. we all want it until someone says something we don't like.
evyllsummer - 5/16/2012, 9:35 AM
But, yeah, to answer the question, if I STRONGLY believed something that one of the principals spoke out AGAINST, I could see myself perhaps boycotting a movie. But, honestly, I can't remember ever REALLY wanting to see a movie that one of the actors spoke out against something I really GOS about.

I mean, take Terminator Salvation, I didn't see it in the theater anyway, kinda liked it when I eventually saw it blu-ray. But Bale's rant, I thought it was funny. He lost his cool on a DOP, I didn't really care, and he addressed it in the press and took his lumps on the press tour.
Hellsing - 5/16/2012, 9:36 AM
@Intruder pssst... Conan 2011...
Bobevanz - 5/16/2012, 9:37 AM
Ron paul for the win! Seriously, wait til the republican convention, you'll see ^_^
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 9:37 AM
Intruder - 5/16/2012, 9:34 AM
Report Comment Roman Polanski is a rapist pedophile.. but god help me.. I love him as a director.

if this is true he just lost me.
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 9:38 AM
valeriesghost - 5/16/2012, 9:35 AM
Report Comment freedom of speech. we all want it until someone says something we don't like.

you hit that one dead on the head man.esp on this site lmao.
hstempert - 5/16/2012, 9:41 AM
Ever hear of the phrase, "shut up and sing"???? Shut up and act!
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 9:42 AM
BaneKill77 - 5/16/2012, 9:37 AM
Report Comment "as long as i see nolanites bashing marvel threads."

Really? I seen Marvelite trolls like you bashing DC over & over more. I hardly see any so-call Nolanites bashing Marvel a lot like you do, marknjoanna. Stop lying out of your ass. Beside, what you're doing is far worse & you know it. A big hypocrite as well.

well i was clickling on this site for years and the nolanites bashing EVERY marvel thread is why i opened this account.

and them stoping will be the only reason i close it.


so if you can name me some marvel threads thats nolanitless,let me know and if its true ill be gone.good luck with that tho.
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 9:46 AM
@markjoanna

You really have nothing better to do have you man? Don't you have like a job or something? How young/disabled are you?

wrong,i was lucky enough to retire at 45 im 47 now.

now why are you here all the time,nothing better to do or what.
MrSuperheromoviefan - 5/16/2012, 9:47 AM
marknjoanna - nolanite don't exist. 1/30 of the users would be nolanites. marvelites are far more about 9/30. I could say names, but i don't like that. i am a fan of both marvel and dc and i [frick]ing hate the dumass bashing like tdkr takes.
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 9:48 AM
blackandyellow - 5/16/2012, 9:46 AM
Report Comment The public is very forgiving, but there is a line that cannot be crossed. For example, if O.J. Simpson was in the Avengers as Nick Fury the box office take would be significantly different!

The TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party started out with a simple and reasonable message, but it has become a caricature of itself.

last i heard the nfl hall of fame has o js shet in a box locked up lol.
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 9:52 AM
but the hall of fame is still sending him checks for being in it so he prob. dont care
FoxForce5 - 5/16/2012, 9:53 AM
Someone involved in the film has to be really despicable for me not to watch their film because of something they've said or done. Perhaps is they were a pedophile, Nazi, rapist, KKK supporters, etc. then I don't think I could possibly support them. Besides that, I'm good, regardless of weather or not I agree with them. The only people I can think of, offhand, that I have trouble supporting right now would be Mel Gibson (yeah, I tried to look past his Nazi views and all the other douchy stuff he's said and done but year after year, he just keeps proving what a scum bag he is- sorry, Mel) and Roman Polanski; I don't care how talented he is, how long it's been or if she "came on to him" - she was 13 years old, he gave her drugs and alcohol and raped her! I just have a real problem looking past that!
antonio - 5/16/2012, 9:54 AM
@Sirwinsalot a 47 year old man from Nashville lol.
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 9:54 AM
SirWinsalot - 5/16/2012, 9:52 AM
Report Comment @markjoanna

I'm 'here' like twice a week if that you silly old [frick].

A 47 year old 'man' should know better than to troll!

Thank god no female has allowed you to reproduce.

son is in the air force,fairbanks ak,and is moving to sumter sc next year thank god.

next
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 9:57 AM
antonio - 5/16/2012, 9:54 AM
Report Comment @Sirwinsalot a 47 year old man from Nashville lol.

yep tenn. we have the smokies,elvis,jack and coke plus faith hill.whats your state got.
SupermansBeard - 5/16/2012, 9:57 AM
If I was to stay away from movies with actors whose beliefs differed from mine, I would be without television completely. Just so long as the movies do not express political views (unless they're political movies) then I'm in. But when you try to throw stupid things in to try and cause controversy. But, I would say that although I don't agree with Morgan Freeman, he is well within his rights to say what he wants. Plus he got a one up with me when he said he hated Black History Month. lol
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 10:00 AM
SirWinsalot - 5/16/2012, 9:58 AM
Report Comment @marknjoanna

That bullshit story is the most creative thing you ever done in your miserable life. Congratulations! Now off you go to collect your social security

i cant for atleast 18 more years but thax anyways tho.
VanthDreadstar - 5/16/2012, 10:00 AM
An important step in our growth as people will be when we can separate our feelings for an idea and the feelings we have for the person that forms the idea. Imagine how helpful it would be in politics if the American people would vote for the person that could best lead us or best do the job of representing us with no consideration of their activities outside of the political sphere. Suddenly politicians would no longer have to pander to the most extreme concepts in our society.

As far as Morgan Freeman's beliefs and the possibility of them adversely affecting The Dark Knight Rises, the concern seems to be a dishonest one and probably comes from a dishonest man. If you look at the success of the previous two movies and use them as a metric for predicting success then The Dark Knight Rises is trending towards being more successful than The Dark Knight. Morgan Freeman was in the previous two movies and the revenue grew between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. Of course I am assuming that Morgan Freeman believes now the same thing he believed then and was discussing his beliefs in public. It would appear this concern was raised by someone who had their own agenda and was trying to use fear to push it. I have no idea if this is true, this is just the feeling that I got when I read this article.

The way I answer the question for myself is I try to imagine the most heinously awful thing I can imagine, such as agreeing with the Nazi party or being a serial killer, and then I apply that horrifying attribute to Joss Whedon. Now if the above were true of Joss Whedon would I have gone to see The Avengers? Of course I would have. I would have sent mail to Marvel and suggested that a serial killer might not be someone they should associate with but I certainly would not have boycotted the work based on that. A less crazy example of this type is that although I am against organized religion of any kind I've been to the Sistine Chapel and it's awesome. I can separate the artistic and architectural value of the Sistine Chapel from the unpleasantness that I believe exists within the Catholic Church.

In closing Morgan Freeman is kick ass and don't make up crap to be afraid of.
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