THE DARK KNIGHT RISES: Matthew Modine On Batman, THOR and The Avengers

The Dark Knight Rises star Matthew Modine "can't really relate to Thor" and insinuates that "the Avengers are just mythological characters with magic powers."

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By Hawksblueyes - 6/13/2012
Most of the readers here at CBM will probably recall The Dark Knight Rises star Matthew Modine setting the twiterworld on fire about a month ago with his remarks about The Avengers. If not, you should certainly take the time to read Mark Julian's write up on the subject (((HERE))).

Now, the actor (who portrays Gotham Deputy Commissioner Foley in TDR) has offered even more of his thoughts to the world concerning Marvel's heroes and their differences in relation to Batman. Speaking with CBR, he had quite a bit to say about the upcoming conclusion to Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy. Much of the interview is Modine reiterating comments from previous interviews. However, he did manage add more of his thoughts on the differences between Batman and Marvel's heroes.

From CBR...

"I think he's such an extraordinary character, Batman, because he's a human being. He's not a man with supernatural powers, he's not a mythological character -- he's just a man who's damaged, who's broken like so many people in the world...trying to do good."

"The interesting point then becomes, when you do good, when you're fighting crime, when do you cross that line of becoming a vigilante? I think that 'broken person doing good' is something we all aspire to in our life, trying to overcome our fears and trying to fight evil in the world. He's a character we all relate to."

"You can't really relate to Thor, for instance! I like the story, but I don't relate to him -- I can't use his hammer!"

"I don't want to offend the [Marvel] people by saying that the Avengers are just mythological characters with magic powers, because I'd offend half of the people who buy comic books. But the thing that's extraordinary about Batman is that he's a man, he's not a superman. He's of this earth...he's broken and he's trying to repair himself. I think that Christopher Nolan has been a masterful storyteller in taking that story about the Dark Knight and re-envisioning the story for a whole new generation of film goers."


Hawksblueyes: There is much more to this interview at CBR. Click on the link below to read it in it's entirety. Regardless of whether or not I agree with him, I certainly admire the fact that Modine has no qualms about speaking his mind. Feel free to discuss your thoughts in the usual place.
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PartyHard - 6/13/2012, 2:12 PM
I don't need to relate to the character to enjoy a story. I don't even need to find him sympathetic. Just entertaining.
Georgep66 - 6/13/2012, 2:17 PM
Batman yep he's definetaly the most relatable hero on film and comic books, every ones a billionaire, good looking playboy, with a mastery of matial arts and genius level intellect. [frick] guys like spiderman they can't be relatable cause they have super powers we can't relate to a character who is bullied, or is a nerd. Or even Thor a guy who is a god we can't relate to themes of betrayal, family conflict or failure,nope batman is the only relatable guy ever in comic books. Shut up Matthew modine you've done sod all since full metal jacket and if you're going to make sweeping statements perhaps you should actually think first before you make yourself out to be an idiot.
superotherside - 6/13/2012, 2:21 PM
What ever I don't relate to a billionaire who dresses up as a bat either. If you say the same thing as he was about Thor. But I can relate to an arrogant person finding humility. It's the character which in ANY story that matters. It doesn't matter if they're super powered or not.
soundwave129 - 6/13/2012, 2:21 PM
Batman is cool, but to me, he is anything but relatable.
Dumegg - 6/13/2012, 2:23 PM
well, i'm not rich and both my parents are
still alive. does that mean i cant relate to
batman. Modine is a IDIOT!! Whats he know.
i bet if he was in avengers or Thor he'd
be singing a different tune.
PantherX - 6/13/2012, 2:23 PM
What a douche.


That's it.
LMB10 - 6/13/2012, 2:26 PM
He's an idiot. Hawkeye + Widow have no powers. Iron Man is just a guy in a high tech suit. Cap is bascically a guy on steroids. Thor and Hulk are the only 'mythological characters with magic powers'. That description better suits the Justiec League, minus Batman.
Georgep66 - 6/13/2012, 2:31 PM
Another point on this is that Marvel characters from the word go were designed to be relatable, whereas DC characters exist to be inspiration. Take for example spiderman, a relatable character with real world problems (you know them I won't list them) compared to superman a person with perfect characteristics who people should strive to be like. (apply this theory to most DC and marvel characters it's true) so now modine is transcending the very nature of the two publishing giants like an idiot.
marvel72 - 6/13/2012, 2:32 PM
can't relate to bruce wayne/batman either.

-i haven't lost my parents.
-i haven't got a ton of money
-i don't dress up as a bat at night or during the day(the dark knight rises)

peter parker/spider-man is probably the most relatable character,part from the super powers elements of his life may of effected us all in some way.
Marveluffugus - 6/13/2012, 2:33 PM
Stop fn crying about nothing people. I'm a marvel fan and you guys ripping apart this guys (opinion) is stupid.
Marveluffugus - 6/13/2012, 2:33 PM
By the way Modine is the man.
kevberg - 6/13/2012, 2:37 PM
Thats Ok .. I can't relate to an idiot like Modine.
Dumegg - 6/13/2012, 2:39 PM
its to bad he cant relate to any one but
normal human beings. his DVD colection
must really suck.
thewonderer - 6/13/2012, 2:41 PM
LOLOOLOLOLO I freaking love this guy.

People are being pissy for no reason. I love the MCU as much as any other guy but come on people, lighten up.

You know, you see all these fake people like Feige saying how much they like TDK, I mean it just reeks of looking good for the fans.

This guy, being a total ass towards marvel fans is just hilarious.

CPBuff22 - 6/13/2012, 2:41 PM
The only character in this series that is relate-able might be Alfred.
PartyHard - 6/13/2012, 2:43 PM
@thewonderer

How does Feige liking the Dark Knight seem fake? This guy isn't being an ass towards anyone either. He's just talking about how he likes Batman.
Berger45 - 6/13/2012, 2:43 PM
Well, he's got a point. Bigger chance to become a billionare playboy than to become a alien norse god of thunder. Anyways, people are taking this way too far.
RorMachine - 6/13/2012, 2:44 PM
What an asshole..how dare he be of the opinion that Batman is better than The Avengers!! Grow up people.
NickMP - 6/13/2012, 2:46 PM
Look this guy can say anything he wants, its his opinion. At the same time my opinion is that he is a complete A-hole and has no idea what he's talking about
PapaMidnight - 6/13/2012, 2:46 PM
LOL! The dude is just trolling around! Chill people!

IM53, you should watch "Birdy", Modine is killer in that movie.
ralfinader - 6/13/2012, 2:47 PM
Modine is just happy people are interviewing him. Give the guy a break, the last time he was relevant, Reagan was president. Actors seems to need to relate to charactors to enjoy a movie, he ain't the first one I have heard use that line.

Anyways, agree with every negative or sarcstic comment aimed at his douchebag ass.
timepuzzler - 6/13/2012, 2:47 PM
Not even going to touch this one.
darkmetal - 6/13/2012, 2:48 PM
Modine is suddenly all about Batman because he gets a bit part in a Batman movie.
Modine isn't significant enough to matter in a conversation.
He seems to think it matters that he doesnt get Avengers.
But it seems alot of people did.
I think what Modines really up to here is trying to suck up to Nolan and get some more bit parts in his movies.
The big question is why is someone interviewing Modine??? Hes just a step above an extra.
There are porno stars bigger than Modine.
Joker08 - 6/13/2012, 2:50 PM
He's got a point. Batman is the most relatable character, really - especially this Batman. Let's stop kidding ourselves; who here hasn't dressed up like a bat to fight crime? Who here hasn't been left for dead? Who here didn't undergo ninja training on an ice-lake? Who here hasn't tackled Aaron Eckhart off of a construction platform? You get the picture.

Avengers may be one of the best movies ever, but he's totally right - even if he's chlearly never seen it...
BrickWall - 6/13/2012, 2:50 PM
Joker08 - 6/13/2012, 2:51 PM
clearly*
timepuzzler - 6/13/2012, 2:52 PM
Joker08, I slipped in the puddle of sarcasm dripping from your post.


...that was sarcasm I slipped in, RIGHT?
Griever - 6/13/2012, 2:53 PM
Jesus, this site is chalk full of hypocrites. Thor you can relate to, but Superman you can't? I'm referring to comments being said on Man of Steel-related articles btw. Truth is, you can relate to every superhero at one point or another despite them having "superpowers". That's the magic, people.
OdinsBeard - 6/13/2012, 2:53 PM
thats the best part! they're mythological!
White - 6/13/2012, 2:54 PM
I can't relate to Batman or The Avengers members, but Spider-man/ Peter Parker is the one.
silverdog - 6/13/2012, 2:55 PM
just hire Dr. Heiter to stitch your mouth to nolan's anus mr Modine...

suckup douchebag.
FightAs0ne - 6/13/2012, 2:55 PM
This guy does realize that he's talking about most of the Justice League right? What a [frick]ing douche!! I've tried to hold my tongue about this guy because the last time he said something but he is a total tool!!!!!!!!!
Hawksblueyes - 6/13/2012, 2:55 PM
I admire the man for saying what he actually thinks instead of tiptoeing around every subject imaginable (like every other actor in Hollywood).

I don't agree with him but I do give his "BALLS OF STEEL" the kudos they deserve.
timepuzzler - 6/13/2012, 2:56 PM
@Greiver

Chock, dude. Chock full of hypocrites. Fail.
LoudNoises - 6/13/2012, 2:56 PM
Putting aside the argument about whether Modine is a douche, he clearly isn't saying that everyone can relate to a billionaire martial arts expert who fights crime. Dear god people, could you possible do a better job of misrepresenting what someone is saying? He was talking about the human element of Bruce Wayne and his struggle with over coming his fears. That's what we relate to. And for the record I disagree that other Marvel characters don't offer this as well. Even Thor has that struggle of human redemption they we can relate to despite the supernatural elements of the story.
timepuzzler - 6/13/2012, 2:57 PM
^^Agrees completely with Durf^^
Hawksblueyes - 6/13/2012, 2:58 PM
LoudNoises: Don't you dare bring logic into this thread! ;P
Griever - 6/13/2012, 2:58 PM
@puzzler

Oh, thanks, grammar nazi. You're cool. /sarcasm
Joker08 - 6/13/2012, 2:59 PM
@timepuzzler: It was sarcasm :)
GrayMatter - 6/13/2012, 2:59 PM
While I'm in agreement with pretty much everyone on here about how I don't find it easy to relate to a genius billionaire playboy philanthropist ninja vigilante, I have to give this guy mad props.

Everybody is way to PC these days. All we get is "We're doing our own thing, we're not worrying about the other guys," or, "We're not in competition," blah blah blah.

And so while I disagree, I respect a guy with the balls to actually come out and be like, I'm in a DC movie and so DC kicks ass and Marvel sucks.

We all know both universes have their strong points and weak points, but us fanboys like to bicker over Marvel vs DC anyway. So for this guy to jump into the fray, I say: Good on you.
SageMode - 6/13/2012, 3:00 PM
Well, given Private Pile Of Shit's obvious previous trolling, [frick] him.
CaptainObvious - 6/13/2012, 3:01 PM
Please shut up and stop being a douche. You are only giving more ammo to the Marvelites.
smlshin - 6/13/2012, 3:01 PM
Everybody has their own opinions.
jimoakley666 - 6/13/2012, 3:02 PM
"he's broken and he's trying to repair himself..."

What. Like Iron Man? I can't relate to Batman because I'm not a billionaire psycho with parent issues and a fetish for black rubber. But I can still enjoy the films.

There's just no need for the shit-slinging. I've got a feeling I'll still enjoy the Avengers more after I've seen TDKR though.
ironknight - 6/13/2012, 3:06 PM
@IM53

Exactly.
thewonderer - 6/13/2012, 3:07 PM
Graymatter said it perfectly

People want executives to act like its all good and nice and lovely in competition world? Thats boring as [frick]

This guy has balls. Thats for sure. Come on people, its a good laugh to spice up the day in between all these articles of execs pitifully lying through their teeths of having respect and shit.

WHY SO SERIOUS
marvelmaniaco - 6/13/2012, 3:08 PM
I can see what he's saying. But the reason I like the avengers is because of their super powers lol I prefer beings with powers :)
Hawksblueyes - 6/13/2012, 3:09 PM
tea: Doesn't everybody? I've caught people staring into the deep reflections found in them them for hours on end!

And never forget, the snozberries taste like snozberries! ;P

Georgep66 - 6/13/2012, 3:10 PM
I do feel that I can relate to batman however but not because he doesn't have powers its mostly on the basis of his devotion to a cause, always being up against overwhelming odds and always feeling the need to improve himself. Superman is also extremely relatable in terms of his simple unrelenting desire to do good. I think it's justified for us to be angry at modine because his comment was quite simply stupid, I wouldn't call it trolling because I think he genuinelly believed himself to be correct
shadyginzo - 6/13/2012, 3:14 PM
hyped for the film, however this guy is a douche!
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