Tim Burton, Kevin Feige, Zack Snyder And More Look Back At The Impact Of THE DARK KNIGHT

Some of the biggest names in the business (Tim Burton, Gareth Edwards, Kevin Feige, Drew Goddard, Zack Snyder and Rupert Wyatt) all look back at The Dark Knight and discuss how it influenced them and what they loved most about the movie.

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By Josh Wilding - 6/10/2012
The Dark Knight was a hit with both fans and critics, as well as the first comic book movie to make $1 billion at the box office. While a lot of the attention which surrounded the film was due to the tragic death of Heath Ledger, his performance as The Joker would eventually win him a posthumous Oscar, while the effect of the film on both cinema and comic book movies was undeniable. Here, some of the best creative talents in the industry look back on The Dark Knight. To read the rest of the comments from the likes of Wes Anderson, Peter Berg and David Koepp, be sure to pick up the latest issue of Empire Magazine.


Tim Burton

"I like Chris Nolan's Batman movies. It kind of makes me laugh because I got so much shit for being too dark and now, with him, it's like, 'Lucky you.' But that's the way it should be. I wish I hadn't had to go through quite so much torture. They weren't used to that mood then. Comic books were supposed to be light. I did what I wanted to do and it seemed different at the time. And what he did has become normal."


Gareth Edwards

"When I've watched The Dark Knight more analytically, as a filmmaker, I've noticed things that go against the way we're supposed to do them. Like there's music throughout that movie, yet they pull it right out during the really intense chase scenes and it has a strange effect of making those moments really grounded and believable and more exciting. It's stuff like that that really sets it apart from other blockbusters. And I'm really pleased the movie was such a success because never again can a studio underestimate the audience."


Kevin Feige

"The success and quality of The Dark Knight was just as important for Marvel as it was for all the people involved in that movie. I look back at the summer of 2008 as a two-hander between Iron Man and The Dark Knight, and I think they both really announced, 'Okay, this is not a fad, this genre is here to stay.' After The Dark Knight, we didn't fall into a trap of saying, 'Woah, audiences like dark and gritty! Make Thor dark and gritty, make Captain America dark and gritty!' But I think it showed how diverse these movies can be. I root for ever single one of the comic book movies that aren't ours. I hope every one is great and when they're not, it's disappointing, because people don't always make the distinction between DC and Marvel."


Drew Goddard

"The greatest villain of all time is The Joker - he always has been and I don't know anyone who's not going to have Heath Ledger's performance burnt into their brains for the rest of their lives. And the thing about Chris that I admire so much is that he's not afraid to talk up to the audience, rather that down to the audience. He makes a gorgeous film; he makes an elegant and intelligent film, and that's the sort of thing that they didn't used to do with the superhero genre."


Zack Snyder

"What Chris did with that movie was he made our mythology mean something to us. Batman is no longer a man in a suit. He's us. But it's not a repeatable thing, as far as tone and mood go. The Dark Knight Rises can be that again, but other superhero movies can't because they don't have the balls. That tone is transcendent. That's a movie anyone can see and say, 'I understand that mythology instantly'"


Rupert Wyatt

"I think audiences, especially at that particular moment in time, were facing a certain reality check. Foreign wars, a crumbling economy - and the actor who played the villain met a really, premature, tragic death before the movie came out. All of those things combined to make a very zeitgeist film. I referenced it all the time during the making of Apes, in terms of my hopes for people understanding the idea was to make a film that really dealt with our world. Warner Bros. has done a huge amount, especially with that particular film and Christopher Nolan, to make other studios give other filmmakers the opportunity to tell really intelligent, well thought-out character dramas on that kind of scale."


STARRING:

Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne/Batman
Michael Caine as Alfred
Gary Oldman as Commissioner Jim Gordon
Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox
Tom Hardy as Bane
Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle/Catwoman
Joseph Gordon-Levitt as John Blake
Marion Cotillard as Miranda Tate
Josh Pence as Ra's Al Ghul

RELEASE DATE: July 20th, 2012


Source: Empire Magazine
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Supes17 - 6/10/2012, 12:41 PM
Nice
bhorwith22 - 6/10/2012, 12:52 PM
@SaintSpidey67Re I agree. I prefer Batman Begins slightly more than The Dark Knight.
SmellofDuty - 6/10/2012, 12:53 PM
'MERICA FU CK YEAH!
THE FIRE RISES!
nowtheresaBATman - 6/10/2012, 12:54 PM
Batman Begins changed the game.
AsianVersionOfET - 6/10/2012, 12:56 PM
Cool!
VinzClortho - 6/10/2012, 12:57 PM
@SaintSpidey69Re- What are the flaws you see?
CaptainObvious - 6/10/2012, 12:57 PM
@Supes17- That is why nobody takes White seriously. He just says the opposite of what other critics say because he is an attention whore.
dukester9 - 6/10/2012, 12:57 PM
I love Nolan's work.. all of it.

Can't wait for TDKR. I willl 8=D~~~~~~~~~~~ Everywhere
Darkhaven - 6/10/2012, 12:58 PM
Has Nolan ever gone on record for congratulating any other CBM makers? Has DC or WB execs ever done this for Marvel Studios? Serious talk here.
Supes17 - 6/10/2012, 12:58 PM
Many directors have credited Batman Begins as the change in the movie industry. It pretty much started the reboot trend.. The filmakers at Marvel who rebooted the Hulk said that BB was one of the inspirations.
Wildaniel - 6/10/2012, 12:59 PM
I cant wait for TDKR!
95 - 6/10/2012, 12:59 PM
These people mean more to me than the opinions of a few (always) complaining "fans".
Asterisk - 6/10/2012, 1:00 PM
its awesome every can come together and admit this movie is the top tier.
GuardianAngel - 6/10/2012, 1:00 PM
I sure hope The Dark Knight Rises can live up.
marvel72 - 6/10/2012, 1:00 PM
batman begins & the dark knight are both good films i rate them about even,as for the dark knight rises i believe it'll be the worse of the trilogy.
Supes17 - 6/10/2012, 1:02 PM
Name a film that is without flaws...
The great and sacred Godfather had a fake-ass fight scene
No film is perfect:)
Supes17 - 6/10/2012, 1:02 PM
PaulRom - 6/10/2012, 1:02 PM
Incredible film, that's for sure. My favorite CBM until The Avengers was released. It and Batman Begins made me the hardcore Batman fan that I am today.
PaulRom - 6/10/2012, 1:03 PM
@Supes17: Exactly. Every amazing film (from The Avengers and Spider-Man 2 to Lord Of The Rings and Toy Story) had their flaws. Albeit minor in most cases, though.
nowtheresaBATman - 6/10/2012, 1:04 PM
1st of all I loved the Iron Man movie. But I cannot help but think what that movie might of been like if Batman Begins was never made. Feige gives zero credit, always pairing up Iron Man/TDK as the game changers in the genre.
Supes17 - 6/10/2012, 1:05 PM
I can't wait. I don't even think I'm a DC or Marvel guy. Most of my favorite superheroes are from Marvel, but I'm a hardcore Batman fanatic lol
Berger45 - 6/10/2012, 1:05 PM
Tom Hardy will make Bane his, just as Ledger did Joker. Complete opposites but iconic. Looking forward to this epic finale!
95 - 6/10/2012, 1:12 PM
@IronFan93

His "dark and gritty" film made over a billion. That's what filmmakers credit him for. Making genres/styles (CBMs, reboots, psychology themes) worthy for being green-lit or receiving a raised budget.
CPBuff22 - 6/10/2012, 1:17 PM
I think Batman Begins is a far superior film to TDK. It had a better developed plot and told a better story. TDK was to fragmented with multiple plots going on and trying to be tied together at the end.
CaptainObvious - 6/10/2012, 1:17 PM
@IronFan93- They're not saying Nolan invented dark and gritty movies. If they're saying anything, it's that Nolan transcended them.
nowtheresaBATman - 6/10/2012, 1:24 PM
@Supes17 I'm the same, sweet pic!
ChanchoMcGrady - 6/10/2012, 1:35 PM
Yeah, I loved that movie, but did these people not pay attention in 2005?
Batman Begins was the same dark and gritty genre, but people act like the Dark Knight was the first in the trilogy, it wasn't. That's why I almost with TDKR had a different title, so it would connect to the first one better rather than just the second one. Non-comic book fans seem to forget about the first one (which was actually my favorite of the two, but it is a close contest).
ChanchoMcGrady - 6/10/2012, 1:36 PM
Different title as in something with "Batman" in it.
TheMyth - 6/10/2012, 1:38 PM
Kevin Feige hit the nail on the head. Root for all CBM's because the success of one is good for them all and not everyone makes the distinction between DC and Marvel.

Nutanyahoo, If Avengers wasn't a game changer then I don't think any of us know what one is. Seriously, nobody has ever even considered attempting what the MCU has done. This isn't a Marvel vs DC argument. Just because you favor one franchise over the other doesn't mean you must ignore the success of the other. TDK came out and firmly established what a few others were attempting to set up, including BB, that CBM's can be taken seriously, that they're here to stay. Avengers created an entire cinematic universe of comic lore, something that has never been done before EVER in film and they pulled it off "Marvel-ously" tehe. Whether you or anyone else wants to acknowledge it or not doesn't change that it is fact, the MCU and Nolan's Batman are BOTH the reasons why CBM's will survive and thrive forever now. They BOTH deserve the credit for various reasons and they BOTH make me damn [frick]ing proud to be a comic nerd. Be a real man and a real fan, acknowledge what they've both done and be happy for it.

Cheers Nolan!
ChanchoMcGrady - 6/10/2012, 1:38 PM
By the way, you should not define a Batman movie by the Joker's performance. Don't get me wrong, it was a great movie, but that was the one flaw I found. It was a Joker movie. All people talk about is the Joker. Heath did great and deserves an award, but people should talk about Batman after a Batman movie. That's the way it was with Batman Begins.
But they are both A+ material.
GiantNerd - 6/10/2012, 1:41 PM
Can't wait to see tdkr, can't wait for the Nolan era to end. Win, win.
ChanchoMcGrady - 6/10/2012, 1:47 PM
@Just1Superguy

Let me be clear, I like both Marvel and DC.

But Captain America is NOTHING like The Dark Knight. How is it an imitation? How about Thor? Oh, you're right, it's a superhero movie...man they've never had those before.

True, BB and TDK did introduce darkness and grittiness into the superhero movies, but its style was not imitated by Marvel. And so what even if it was? What is wrong with learning from a winning formula?

The Avengers is pure innovation. DC never had a team-up movie before. They should.

What is with the pointless war? Marvel and DC are both good. They both have fantastic movie franchises.
Minghagz - 6/10/2012, 1:47 PM
Well said Kevin Feige:

"I think it showed how diverse these movies can be. I root for ever single one of the comic book movies that aren't ours. I hope every one is great"

Diversity in CBMs is what I love. I love how I get a different feeling when I watch TDK or BB vs IM, Thor, TIH, or Avengers. I wouldn't want every CBM to feel the same otherwise we would always get the same movie. And the cherry on top from what he said... hopes of all CBMs being great. I may not always be enthused about every CBM but I do have hope that they will all somehow do well.
GiantNerd - 6/10/2012, 1:47 PM
@just1superguy Other than Batman, DC has been desperately trying to copy what Marvel is doing in the movie verse.
superbatspiderman - 6/10/2012, 1:47 PM
I think that Batman Begins is a better Batman movie than the Dark Knight but the Dark Knight is a better all around movie. I am a huge fan of Nolan and he has made some amazing films so I look forward to see what he has in store for us in The Dark Knight Rises and any other movie after Batman.
marvel72 - 6/10/2012, 1:49 PM
there was dark & gritty comic book/graphic novel movies before batman begins & the dark knight.

-batman (1989)
-the punisher (1989)
-batman returns (1992)
-blade (1998)
-blade 2 (2002)
-road to perdition (2002)
-the punisher (2004)
-blade trinity (2004)
-constantine (march 2005)
-sin city (april 2005)
-batman begins (june 2005)
-a history of violence (sept 2005)
-v for vendetta (2006)
-300 (2006)
-30 days of night (2007)
-the dark knight (2008)

granted only 12/16 films on that list are any good but there was still dark comic book movies before nolan.
GiantNerd - 6/10/2012, 1:54 PM
@Durf What's crackackin pimp?

Got a present for ya.



Sorry, I'm getting psyched for some football. Lol. I was watching Peterson highlights for a good portion of this morning.
Hawksblueyes - 6/10/2012, 1:56 PM
TheMyth: It really pisses me off to come on here all the time and see you using all the words I couldn't fit together, to say the things I didn't know I wanted to say, before I get the chance! ;P
HULK2099 - 6/10/2012, 1:57 PM
Dark Knight wasn't that big of a deal
OverlyManlyMan - 6/10/2012, 1:58 PM
@just1superguy

haha yea just like dc is trying to get a jla film after the aveneger's success
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