COMICS: Cyclops Finds A New Base And Beast Goes Into Surgery In ALL-NEW X-MEN Sneak Peeks

nice. Who's doing the art?

Cyclops is still and always will be...a douche.

That art is bananas.

AWESOME ART..

CYKE CYKE CYKE

[frick] off you Cyclops haters and go read your shitty overrated Avengers titles !

If you're not behind Cyke, you will be left behind. Get with the times people.

Always loved Cyclops over Wolverine. Even as a child, watching the X-Men movies where Wolverine was made out to be the star, I like Cyke the most.

@Nomis - What? When has Wolverine killed Xavier? And Xavier is as dead as any comic book character who dies. But that's besides the point.

The X-Men has never been about 'us versus them'. That was Magneto's sentiment, not Xaviers. So really, it was Scott who was the traitor. He turned his back on the X-Men's ethos. The X-Men were always about integration with humanity. "Protecting those who fear and hate them".

Maybe you weren't paying attention.

i used to like wolverine the best but marvel made him stale.

i used to not really care about cyclops but his heel turn's one of the best things to happen to the x-men comics in recent history.

i say, [frick] logan. scott's the man right now.

No this mofo didn't just set up a new "school" in the Weapon X building!

I see where this is going:

-Cyke's base gets discovered, possible fight with Alpha Flight.

-Wolverine flips the [frick] out when he learns what Cyke has done.

-Wolverine, Captain America and everyone else that was in the Weapon program go and kick the ever-loving shit out of Cyclops for being a douche.

-Kid Apocalypse regains his mental faculties, and ganks the Weapon X tech, creating a new Four Horsemen and and army like in Age of Apocalypse.


Also, Nomis? Dope pics bro!

@ nomis

legion also killed professor x when he traveled back in time to kill magneto but killed his father instead,hence age of apocalypse.

@halloweenjack..is that you Stigmartyr? Lol

Cyke is the man. The biggest thing now is I feel the mutants have a chance. When he had the power of Phoenix he tried to save the world. As a normal mutant he can do no less.

If Wolverine had his way, Hope would be dead. Literally.

I'm gonna kill Professor X someday too.

Okay it really bothers me that Cyclops is continuing to use the X-Men name... discounting whether or not his cause is "correct", with his ends justify the means attitude.... he killed xavier, he lost the right to be an x-man right there

as for Xavier being dead now? well... red skull just carved out the brain from his corpse so yeah... i think he is pretty definitively dead. I also hope they keep it because at this point he is more effective as a symbol. He was a man with a dream of peace, this ideal for mutants to strive towards... if they bring him back it allows too many chances for someone to [frick] that up so yeah I hope they leave him dead this time.

I am really curious to see how the phoenix [frick]ed with people's powers... I figured cyclops had changed to be more like havok(at least like movie havok) due to the cover of next issue... which explains his new helmet design... i really hadnt expected magneto's to shift though....

oh i am also going to say this... seriously? the weapon x facility... as a reader I love this and its a cool way to bring that place back... but when wolverine finally confronts scott and finds that he is based out of a mutant research/torture facility?... hell, he is going to carve out his heart.

wolverine makes a school to show cyclops he's wrong.
cyclops takes over the place were wolverine was born.omg this is just getting better and better. and all those backing wolverine, the man makes a school for mutants, sides with the avengers and humans...why has no one made a scumbag wolverine meme yet?

@cyked, preach brother!
the man has lead the mutant races for how long. has stood by to fight for the rights of his people. and considering how many people wolverine has killed over the years i don't see how summers gets a bad rap for killing "1" person under the influence of a cosmic force.

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the main reason why myself and others say cyclops killed xavier and not phoenix did is pretty simple... he hadn't gone dark phoenix yet... up until then he was scott summers granted unlimited power... it will show a side of people they wouldnt normally show. if scott had gone dark phoenix before killing xavier i would say the phoenix did it... since it was before I consider scott responsible for his actions

i am not saying that i disagree with it happening... as a reader i consider the current state of the marvel universe pretty fascinating. also with the confrontation between xavier and scott i felt that the death was earned... they both said their bit and essentially they had radically different ideals now, both feeling the other one had to be taken down in order to stop the other's from coming to pass...

i am not even saying i dislike scott now as a character, and i was a cyclops fan before this, i like the character a lot... this really does feel like where his character has been heading for awhile... but let's not kid ourselves.. he is a villain now

Okay, to begin with I will say that this is using a black-white view instead of shades of gray... simply because otherwise any well written villain can be argued for being a good guy... that's what makes them a good villain. So this is of course my opinion on the subject

1- First off you have Scott's actions during the AvX, I am going to go ahead and discount the opening argument/battle between Cap and Cyclops because they were both idiots there for the sake of the event. So let's go ahead and start with once Scott gains unlimited power and what he does with it... he tries to make the world a better place. Once he has gained power he changes his mind for what the Phoenix should be used for... originally he wishes for the Phoenix to come and bring back the mutants, however this isn't his first act upon gaining the powers, its something he doesn't even do. Instead his priorities shift to showing that he was right, that mutants aren't evil... he also goes about this in the most public way. Hell, they got the power and could have immediately brought back the mutant population... they could have talked to the avengers, the world leaders and offered their help, they have this power and are willing to help... but no they seized power by saying that they had the power to do this, so they are doing it, and you can't do shit about it. They could have signed contracts with individual countries, you need a desert turned into a rainforest, or aids wiped out? fine sign this mutant rights agreement and allow us to wipe out any sentinels we find on your soil... hell once it became obvious they werent wanted there, which it was obvious it was, they didnt even consider they were in the wrong... the kept changing the planet because its what they felt was right... if they wanted to they could have simply terraformed Mars and taken any mutants they wanted to their new mutant planet.

2- He attacked the woman he loves in order to steal her power. Seriously. People think Hank Pym is bad but this is just horrible, especially as mutants view their powers as a part of who they are.

3- Killing Xavier.... I already posted my thoughts on this previously in the thread.

4- The decision to be the villains. During AvX: Consequences, Cyclops and his team decide to be cast as "villains". While he is in prison, Scott could very well justify his actions because of how things ended up(even though they had nothing to do with his actions in the end). But he was done at that point in prison. However he beckons to Magik and Magneto to break him out and Magneto even says that they are being cast as the villains now. Yes of course they see themselves as doing the right thing, we all do, but they also realize they are being bad people to do it. If Scott had stayed in prison, sure I could have accepted that he was repentant and was a good guy who had [frick]ed up... instead he decides that he still knows what is best for the world and becomes a fugitive terrorist.

5- The jailbreak... Scott breaks out of a prison and not only allows the prisoners to go free... something he didn't need to do because Magik can teleport... she simply could have hopped in, grabbed him, and ported out... no, instead they killed people, sent others to hell, and slashed the warden's face with an X... all while allowing dangerous criminals into the world in order to send a message.

@Nomis - Did you actually read that issue or just look at the cover? That was a Scrull, and revealed two pages later. Also, that second cover you used was actually Changeling disguised as Xavier.

@Xiim

I'm team Cyclops, as I've exhausted on many articles of this site already, but your opinion is well thought out and respectable.

this is gonna be good

@MutantEQ

Well said as usual