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MisterBatfleck
MisterBatfleck - 12/16/2014, 5:12 PM
Why does that Killer Frost pic remind me of Daenerys?
MisterBatfleck
MisterBatfleck - 12/16/2014, 5:13 PM
But diggin that Reverse-Flash, Firestorm and Ollie rising out of the pit (maybe with a sense of humor and a goatee).
James99201
James99201 - 12/16/2014, 5:14 PM
Just be back already, so I hope Cisco develops Vibe suit soon like after he gets taken advantage of by Captain Cold's sista
Fritzthecat
Fritzthecat - 12/16/2014, 5:20 PM
These are great! Thanks for sharing King.
CombatWombat
CombatWombat - 12/16/2014, 5:21 PM
that Reverse-Flash pose looks awful familiar

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TronVin
TronVin - 12/16/2014, 5:23 PM
This is kinda off topic but I'm starting to grow more attached to the idea of using Daniel West Reverse Flash for the movies and Eobard Thawne for the show. I also really like Daniel West Reverse Flash so there is that. Also, it would be a good way to explain Flashpoint as an effect of Daniel West "fixing" everything.
MisterBatfleck
MisterBatfleck - 12/16/2014, 5:25 PM
@TronVin

What about using Zolomon in the films? But how is the New 52 RF anyways?
Darlene1974
Darlene1974 - 12/16/2014, 5:26 PM
its time we get FEMALE superpower characters please....
TheEpicJuicebox
TheEpicJuicebox - 12/16/2014, 5:27 PM
Can anyone explain how the reverse flash new52 got his neck snapped but then he's alive and in the suicide squad now?
TronVin
TronVin - 12/16/2014, 5:31 PM
@MisterBatfleck

I like the idea of Zolomon too. You can use one or the other really or combine the two. Reverse Flash in the New 52 has a really cool and new concept. His motives are kinda cliche but his concept is so cool that its just begging to be built upon and look past that. Daniel West RF is a speedforce siphoner,...

(I'll get into spoilers here)

...the brother of Iris, and his motivations are he wants to fix the abuses his father has done to him (which is a reason why the TV show may not use him), and he gets more powerful the more speedforce he siphons.
CyberA
CyberA - 12/16/2014, 5:31 PM

The Flash one looks pretty bad-ass. The Reverse-Flash one doesn't look half-bad either... *cool*/P :)

HulkOnion
HulkOnion - 12/16/2014, 5:33 PM
A Feminist! oh shit, hide!
TronVin
TronVin - 12/16/2014, 5:34 PM
@MisterBatfleck

Also, I'm getting kinda annoyed with the "villain obsessed with the hero" cliche. It's been done so many times and a lot of villains are being turned into this. Daniel West is not like that. I like him a lot because of that.
SymbioteJoker
SymbioteJoker - 12/16/2014, 5:36 PM
@TronVin
Yeah I feel the same way. His design has more going for it. Though for the cinematic version I would have Daniel be comprised of unstable speed force energy (yellow/red interior) and he's contained by the metallic shrapnel overlapping it. Plus I'm not sure if Cold or any of the rogues are right for the first Flash film.
ThedamnBatman
ThedamnBatman - 12/16/2014, 5:39 PM
Those look stupendous!
TronVin
TronVin - 12/16/2014, 5:41 PM
@SymbioteJoker

I want the Rogues for the first movie (but they have to be a team already), Gorilla Grodd for the second done in the style of Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, and a Flashpoint movie for the third with Daniel West's "fixes" being the cause of the Flashpoint.
Darlene1974
Darlene1974 - 12/16/2014, 5:44 PM
QUESTION FOR EVERYONE: does any of these tv people fr "GOTHAM/CONSTANTINE/ARROW/THE FLASH", ever gonna have DC Royal Trinity in their shows, ever? Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman ?!?!... Can they? if not, why?
GuardianAngel
GuardianAngel - 12/16/2014, 5:46 PM
Almost as good as this.

MisterBatfleck
MisterBatfleck - 12/16/2014, 5:46 PM
@TronVin

Hmm, I knew the origin part of him being Iris's brother, but I didn't know that he basically feeds off Flash's Speed Force. Maybe they could mix Zolomon in there, giving sprinkles of his origin with the majority of West's origin.
MisterBatfleck
MisterBatfleck - 12/16/2014, 5:47 PM
My God that gigantic head!

And besides, I like Wells better in the suit. The guy's got a [frick]ed up smile.
GuardianAngel
GuardianAngel - 12/16/2014, 5:48 PM
@Darlene1974

No, none of those shows will feature any of the big players from the movies. Why? Because Warner Bros. doesn't care enough to try to connect everything. They're a business and they make more money by having both a Flash movie and TV Show at the same time.
MisterBatfleck
MisterBatfleck - 12/16/2014, 5:48 PM
Huh, I take back all I said about Reverse-Flash's suit not being full yellow. The black looks really good while that yellow...
TronVin
TronVin - 12/16/2014, 5:50 PM
@MisterBatfleck

He is pretty cool:



CombatWombat
CombatWombat - 12/16/2014, 5:56 PM
I honestly have no idea why they didn't connect the show to their new slate of movies. It's just so counterproductive...
SymbioteJoker
SymbioteJoker - 12/16/2014, 5:58 PM
@TronVin
Hmm what if the rogues are already a team I'm the movie and need to step up their game? Though I wonder if powers or the original tech weapons are the way to go. And regarding Daniel's character what I find most interesting is his inability to let go of the past. And it's odd the changed him back to yellow but whatever.
SymbioteJoker
SymbioteJoker - 12/16/2014, 6:06 PM
God I hate my phones autocorrect
TronVin
TronVin - 12/16/2014, 6:08 PM
@CombatWombat

There are so many reasons:

1. You can get so much more out of both properties by keeping things separated than if it was connected.

2. The general audience doesn't watch the shows. The Flash mid-season finale was watched by 4 mil. and Man of Steel was watched by 36 mil. That is four New York Cities different in size. Avengers was watched 74 mil. US TV shows also don't pull in that large of numbers outside of North America and Man of Steel was watched by 80 mil globally and Avengers was watched by 150 million.

3. If they didn't do it with Smallville which had a larger audience than these shows, they're not going to do it now.

4. They're still a business and are still in the business of being a business.

5. David Ayer's Suicide Squad would never see the light of day.

6. Plot holes.
Emblemmaniac
Emblemmaniac - 12/16/2014, 6:14 PM
@CombatWombat

Quite opposite actually. It would be counterproductive to connect it
Arrow and Flash sure has it's fans (myself included) but..

1. They would tie their hands with the movies and shows since everything would be needed to connect with each other. The movies would prehaps not be able to tell the stories that they want because the lore Arrow and Flash has created, and Arrow and Flash would be tied on what they could do because of the movies.

2. The diffrence between Agent's of Shield then Arrow and Flash, is that they would get a TON of schedule problem as well, since Arrow and Flash would shot their seasons as well as the movie they would be in at. It would be a ton of problem

3. The actors, with disscounting some example's such as Peter Stormare, Manu Bennet and the guy that plays the clock king, aren't really... cinema material so to speak.

Emblemmaniac
Emblemmaniac - 12/16/2014, 6:14 PM
@TronVin

Well said
Emblemmaniac
Emblemmaniac - 12/16/2014, 6:22 PM
Liked the fanarts of Killer Frost and Firestorm
GuardianAngel
GuardianAngel - 12/16/2014, 6:26 PM
@TronVin

1. Not really. By establishing a connected universe, both TV and film benefit from each other. It also gets more people interested in the shows which means ad revenue.

2. I'd estimate 90% of viewers are people who have never picked up a Flash comic in their lives. I already know plenty of people whom you would classify as the "general audience" who watch the show. Plus comparing film sales to that of TV viewership is extremely naive. Films not only have a far bigger budget with a greater marketing campaign, they are also easier when it comes to estimating revenue, because not everyone watches TV shows the night they air.

3. They didn't do it with Smallville because shared universes weren't a thing back then. Now in an age where every studio wishes they had the rights to the characters WB has at their disposal, it's pretty stupid not to do one.

4. So are Marvel, yet the only difference is Marvel isn't controlled by Disney and can therefore focus on making things work toward the fans while still making damn good movies. DC Comics itself has practically no control over its characters. Everything belongs to the fat cats at Warner who are more focused on pleasing shareholders than fans.

5. With the right script adjustments anything can work. Plus it's most likely that they didn't hire Will Smith because they thought he would make a great Deadshot. He was put in for celebrity appeal. Pick a character out of a hat.

6. Man of Steel. The Dark Knight Rises. Who gives a shit? Even if you do, all it takes is some thinking through and planning, something Warner Bros is apparently not very good at.
Emblemmaniac
Emblemmaniac - 12/16/2014, 6:31 PM
@GuardianAngel

Geoff Johns has said that each easter egg is there for a reason. Flash have had a easteregg for Crisis on infinite earth. Stephen Amell said that he came out happy after the meeting with Geoff Johns, and Johns has not disscounting the chances of Crisis happening.


So i ask you. If they are connecting them in the way that is DC Comics bread and butter, what's wrong with that if they do so?
Timerider84
Timerider84 - 12/16/2014, 6:31 PM
@Emblemmaniac, maybe they could go through a inter dimensional worm hole, if you will, and end up in an alternate universe. We are talking about the Flash. This Flash and their(DC movie's) Flash could meet up. Anything can happen, it's a comicbook show/movie shared universe.
GuardianAngel
GuardianAngel - 12/16/2014, 6:33 PM
@Emblemmaniac
l. Like I mentioned above, some thinking through and planning could solve this. Plus Warner has already not allowed the shows to use characters that are in the films.

2. Not every actor is in every film. Plus these actors would consider themselves lucky to be that busy. Also how is everyone of the Avengers able to star in other films?

3. Yeah, because with A-listers like Jai Courtney, Cara Delevingne, and Gal Gadot it'd be so hard to live up.
Emblemmaniac
Emblemmaniac - 12/16/2014, 6:33 PM
@Timerider84

Exactly.

Them doing parallell universes is the closest thing that i would call as eat the cookie and keep it, if you know what i mean
CombatWombat
CombatWombat - 12/16/2014, 6:35 PM
ahhh that's right I forgot about Suicide Squad.

never mind then, I'm really looking forward to that one
GuardianAngel
GuardianAngel - 12/16/2014, 6:35 PM
I can't believe people are actually buying into this Crisis bullshit. A studio with as much trust as Marvel is reluctant to crossover existing franchises and you think DC is planning to introduce a multiverse. I doubt the general audience is even ready for that.
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