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Fantastic Four Reboot?!!

Seems that the rumor mill is chatting it up that Fox is planning a complete reboot of the successful but not fan appreciated Fantastic Four franchise.
IESB is reporting that they've heard word around town about a Fantastic Four reboot.

With Daredevil already getting the once over and Planet of the Apes also in the running for a new start with a prequel in the works Fantastic Four is joining the reboot gang.

The two films previously released never really caught on with the fans and the studio is reportedly looking to completely retool, recast and recrew the franchise. This means no Tim Story, no Iaon, no Julian (thank the maker, he never sat well with me as Dr. Doom), no Chris, no Chiklis and no Jessica.

The first Fantastic Four in 2005 pulled in over $330 million worldwide and the second film, Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer, opened in 2007 with a total box office take of $290 million. Both made money and were commercial successes but the reviews were lackluster and the fan reaction was mediocre.

The franchise is looking to be "less bubble gum" this time round following the Iron Man template, which was a complete success in reviews and box office take but a bit darker when it came to its superhero. Iron Man was in no way as dark as The Dark Knight but was funny, action-y as well as a bit on the serious side.

Now who do you want as Mr. Fantastic this time out? Which director would be the best choice to bring this story to the screen once again?"

I for one do not think that the Fantastic Four movies were as bad as say Superman Returns. If fox truely wants to make this once successful franchise a blockbuster hit then they should just change a couple things about the next installment. For instance please change who plays Dr. Doom!! Please hire a director that will portray the movie as it should be portrayed, as in showing the hero's/villins as they were in the comics or even close would be a good first step. The fan boy hype of FF2 was being able to see Silver Surfer in the movie and then the realization that if Silver Surfer was in the movie we would also get to see Galactus. But what we got to see was a cloud. I see clouds every day were I live. Not every movie can be Iron Man, the studio needs to leeve the Iron Man franchise to itself and create one that successfully represents The Fantastic Four.
67 Yes
8 No
jman1977
3/9/2009
iesb.net

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160 Comments

I must confess I liked the second movie more than I did the first. But being a simple and humble comic fan, I look forward to any new Marvel movie. What a sad person I am lol
frank666 - 3/9/2009, 12:57 PM
This will be the 2nd reboot if this happens. First Fantastic Four movie was produced by Roger Corman in 1994.

This franchise is old. Shovel some dirt on it and call it done.
SirPrize - 3/9/2009, 12:58 PM
screw fantastic four, do dr strange
joob234 - 3/9/2009, 1:02 PM
Frank - you actually LIKED the second film over the first?! Galatus was a cloud, for god's sake (ooo, sooo scary!) and the plot was for sh!t!

Prize - the 'first' movie technically doesn't count because it was never released. I've got a copy (don't ask how) and after watching it, I know why!

Well, you know what they say, "Third time's the charm." Hopefully it's true in this case...
loganoneil - 3/9/2009, 1:04 PM
yeah i really dont see the point in this. The first movie sucked and the only good thing about the 2nd one was Surfer. But as bad as the movies were they were pretty decent adaptations! I mean no offence to FF fans but theres not exactly much more to the comics than there was in the movies so what would be the point?
RorMachine - 3/9/2009, 1:05 PM
I kinda agree with joob234, I want a Dr. Strange movie! However I thought the FF was an ok movie, I would like to see a 3rd installment. They just need to go more comic bookish (is that a word?). They could really make the FF into something special. Also when are they gonna make a Namor movie? He is way cooler than Aquaman.
Matowar - 3/9/2009, 1:08 PM
There is nothing you can possibly do with Mr Fantastic or the Thing that would make this franchise work. They suck, plain and simple. The comics suck, the cartoons suck and both movies sucked! It is a "doomed" franchise to begin with. And adding spock in a speedo talking to jelly fish sure as hell won't help!!! Roar is right, the only decent thing ever to come out of those movies was Silver Surfer. What is it with Hollywood and freakin reboots?!?!?!?!?

"How dead is that horse your pokin' at there Charlie?"
"As dead as it gets!"
"Cool, tape wooden sticks to make it hold up and well make sound effects."
Shaman - 3/9/2009, 1:19 PM
Screw them all I want to see a Namor movie!!!

(singing)*NAMOR... He talks to FISH!!!!*
CorneliusLow - 3/9/2009, 1:19 PM
If the first Fantastic Four movie got shelved because it was so bad and the two that Marvel deemed good enough to be released theatrically were complete and utter pieces of shit, I can only imagine how bad that first one was.... Actually, no, no I can't even imagine lol.

I agree with SirPrize, Fantastic Four is never gonna click with movie audiences, they need to just let it die and move on to something more marketable. The two Fantastic Four movies are in contention for the worst comic book movies I've seen, throwing some blood and a few night scenes on the franchise won't solve that. Not everything is destined to be Hollywood gold, certainly not by following the dark-and-gritty formula. If Marvel wants a dark-and-gritty movie to follow the success of Dark Knight, try revamping Daredevil or Ghost Rider. Nobody wants to see Fantastic Four again, not even if you promise to kill Johnny Storm.

...Okay, MAYBE if you kill Johnny Storm...
marshmallowyme - 3/9/2009, 1:19 PM
Damn Shaman you hate everything. DBE, tony hawk and now the F4? god damn let people make their money. you should make a movie so people can hate you

they should make a U.S.Agent movie

(singing)*U.S.Agent... He talks to FISH!!!*
CorneliusLow - 3/9/2009, 1:22 PM
TOTALLY LMFAO!!!! I like cookies and pickles and creme de menthe :))

Yeah, you're right marshmallowyme, kill off the only cool thing to look at ever to come from that franchise... he doesn't talk to fish...bastard.
Shaman - 3/9/2009, 1:25 PM
I don't know if there is anything left to say after Roar and Shaman got done. I mean they hit the nail on the head. F4 sucky with exception of SS. Leave it be I don't want to suffer through another one of these films, There is so much more they could be doing. I mean I for one would love to see a Captain Mar-Vell movie, not from Fox but I would love to see that.
LastSon1027 - 3/9/2009, 1:25 PM
And Aquaman is so much cooler than Namor with those little wings on his feet that serve no purpose underwater.
LastSon1027 - 3/9/2009, 1:27 PM
EVERYONE TALKS FISH!!

oh they serve a purpose, they get him more ass that a porta john at a construction site on enchilada lunch day
CorneliusLow - 3/9/2009, 1:33 PM
this is like Marvels superman, old and lame. its a deadstick just like the superman franchise. it will go nowhere no matter what.(sorry to all you superman fans but that franchise is really so repetative and boring now)
Torque - 3/9/2009, 1:35 PM
and namour would be sick but it think its time for a "new warriors" movie. I WANNA SEE NOVA!!!
Torque - 3/9/2009, 1:36 PM
well personaly those movies gave me some good memories so i want more ff just with the same cast and it being ff3
Retribution13 - 3/9/2009, 1:36 PM
well personaly those movies gave me some good memories so i want more ff just with the same cast and it being ff3
Retribution13 - 3/9/2009, 1:36 PM
I didn't mind the movies, you gotta admit Chiklis was a pretty sweet Thing. If they did reboot this, i'd still see it in theaters, and i'm sure some of you would too:P
SirExcalibur - 3/9/2009, 1:37 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing a Marvels movie. This way no one superhero can take center stage. The way I picture it, it would be a really great experience.
Tobuttica - 3/9/2009, 1:38 PM
screw this. as much as i would like to see the ACTUAL Galactus ripping in to a city instead of a giant cloud, or super skrull bruning civilians alive, or even Thanos or Moleman, i do NOT want to see another FF movie. the two in 2000s and one in the 90s. enough of that. I would much rather see a daredevil remake, or more focus on the Xmen First Class movie. Fantastic Four isnt supposed to be DARK like the dark knight and sort of like iron man. it IS supposed to be bubble gummy. if they wanted to do something for the fans, making FF dark would NOT be it. it would actually be the exact opposite. a desperate move to get more box office money.

@Cornelius- Dr Strange OR Namor would be tight. Or maybe Hawkeye? ORRRRRRRRRRR Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver

I would really like the idea of Hawkeye. from birth, orphanage, to The Avengers. cameos by Swordsman and Trickshot. Ironman and and black widow. it could end like Ironman did. it could come out after the avengers. and therefore setting hawkeye up to be in the sequel. the sequel being the avengers that are in the first movie plus some recruits. anyone? :)

sorry im just blabbin. but that WOULD be tight
TylerDayspring - 3/9/2009, 1:38 PM
oh wait. how could i have no mentioned this

Djimon Honsou. as. T'CHalla aka The Black Panther.

THATS A NO BRAINER
TylerDayspring - 3/9/2009, 1:42 PM
F4 movies were a joke. Both movies felt like a high budgeted Power Rangers movie.

If anything is gonna "spew" from this mess, then make a SS movie.

Killing off the Torch, are you on crack. He's the only thing cool about the F4.
SirPrize - 3/9/2009, 1:44 PM
Pierce Brosnan is Doctor Strange
SirPrize - 3/9/2009, 1:49 PM
@tylerdayspring

Hawkeye = awesome

Christian Bale, Ed Norton, Chris o'donnell would be a good hawkeye

@sirprize

007 as Dr. Strange = epic win
CorneliusLow - 3/9/2009, 1:55 PM
The second movie caught a lot more of the spirit of the comics (even though cumulonimbogalactus was lame as hell). This franchise could work with a more Iron Man-like feel to it- more serious, but not necessarily "dark". These are good characters, and can work well if they just have a good script. One more thing- no Doom on the rocket!!! Doom's correct origin could be captured in less than a minute- maybe even behind the opening credits.
comicb00kguy - 3/9/2009, 1:55 PM
Paul Reubens as Namor

The secret word today is FISH!!!
CorneliusLow - 3/9/2009, 1:56 PM
if they want to reboot it let em. but let marvel take control and bridge it with the new marvel movies to expand that universe. AND MAKE THE THING LOOK LIKE THE THING!!!!
grif - 3/9/2009, 1:56 PM
o god no! Pierce Brosnan CANNOT act!!! He sucked as Bond and everything else he does is shit
Crazyhorrormovienerd - 3/9/2009, 1:58 PM
I gotta' agree with most of you, the only thing cool that ever came out of the FF were the 'villains' (Silver Surfer, Doctor Doom, Namor, etc.). Everything else about it blew! I know I'm gonna' get reamed for this but... if they're gonna' reboot a franchise, how about 'X-Men'? Let's face it, Singer's version SUCKS (yeah, I said it- who wants some?). The man (by his OWN ADMISSION) does not read comic books and does not like comic books, yet he directed three comic book movies (two 'X-Men' and a 'Superman') based on stuff he 'pieced together'. His 'vision' blew, totally distorting the essence of both lines and characters (Ror's gonna' rip me a new one for 'Superman Returns'). I say redo it, and redo it RIGHT! Get the ORIGINAL X-Men (not this BS conglomeration that Singer cooked up). Or if need be, have the original team already established and introduce the 'new' members (Logan, Storm, Colossus, etc) in a similar fashion to 'Giant Size X-Men #1'. And for god's sake - get somebody who knows how to coordinate fight scenes properly!! I'm tired of watching fights with uber-ninjas like Wolverine, only to see them hack and slash! SINGER BLOWS!!!!!!!
loganoneil - 3/9/2009, 2:01 PM
Fantastic 4 was just a mess of a movie. Theyt got owned by The Incredibles and their gags were lame. If they do reboot they should focus on the sci-fi elements. I didnt like the way that no one was suprised that aliens existed in FF2...they should just quit actually
breakUbatman - 3/9/2009, 2:06 PM
My other choice for Doctor Strange is Alan Rickman.
SirPrize - 3/9/2009, 2:10 PM
I'm happy
CRUSH - 3/9/2009, 2:11 PM
it was ok..then again i waited to buy both on DVD.
I'm getting tired of reboots. id rather someone keep the storyline, make a bridge and go on with the new and improved...even if you hire all new cast.

Like the Hulk.
I like the first one because it was something new and different, but when Ed Norton took the reigns he gave it the comic book mixed with tv show legs that it needed.

After his direction the Hulk shouldnt need to be rebooted again.

Nor iron man.

Anyway,
sure reboot the movie...not like its costing me anything or stimuls money HA !
vonstallin - 3/9/2009, 2:16 PM
I loved the 2nd movie and thought it worked but i am glad they are restarting it. I didnt like the guy play Doom or the guy playing Mr Fantastic
tyko450 - 3/9/2009, 2:17 PM
wut no one wants to see Pee-Wee with wings on his ankles?
CorneliusLow - 3/9/2009, 2:20 PM
I totally agree with most of y'all.....they should just scrap the whole FF franchise...the movies were okay nothing spectacular i watched both of them on DVD....marvel should concentrate on other comic books...i like the dr strange idea..but does it have the potential of being a big franchise....does it have a big enough fan base...all these questions should be asked but as far as who should play him....i agree with sirprize 100% pierce bronsnan all the way....and about him sucking as bond...i definately do not agree i think homie was one of the best bonds ever...but everyone is entitled to their own opinion...
Neo24real - 3/9/2009, 2:21 PM
I actually thought both movies were very true to the source. But then I think the comics (and cartoons) were sh*t! The characters were nothing but pansy-ass half wits with no substance and the whole "world" they were a part of was just lacking on every scale compared to comics/cartoons like x-men and spiderman. The only good thing about FF, comic, cartoon or movie was Silver Surfer. So why re-boot when they've already nailed the wooden sh*t it is!
Ron - 3/9/2009, 2:21 PM
Yeah i sorto see Alan rickman in the role he has that whole mystical magical look (thanks to his harry potter role)but i still prefer pierce...sirprize whats with all the englishmen??..lol
Neo24real - 3/9/2009, 2:25 PM
joob234 - Daniel Day Lewis as Dr. Strange!!!
BrunoDJ - 3/9/2009, 2:29 PM
When Pierce was with the Bond series, it made a sh[i]tload of money. He has the look and the level of maturity to pull it off.

@ Neo24real - So far those are the only 2 that I can think of that can fill Dr. Strange shoes. I cannot see DDL playing the Doc.

SirPrize - 3/9/2009, 2:31 PM
I disagree with a lot of the "angry fanboi" reaction here. FF4-1 was OK . . . not great, but where it really missed was casting for Doc Doom, Reed and Sue. Chikles as Ben Grimm and Chris Evens as Johnnie Storm was actually very good casting, and the bickering between them was well done -- actually, it was the best part of the film.

Changing Doc Doom's origin? I wasn't crazy about it, but I could live with it since the movie universe isn't necessarily the comic universe. But the writing just wasn't there, the heroism wasn't there, and most of all, the relationship between Sue and Reed just wasn't there.

On FF4-2, I actually agree that Galactus could NOT appear anything like his comic book self. Do you know how cheesy that would have been? I really can't think of anything better than the giant cloud, but I certainly know that a giant blue and purple guy floating in space would have been nothing but pure stupidity. The Surfer came out well in the film. Doc Doom was actually OK in the second film, since he was a fairly small part of it. What I hated was the whole wedding thing as a kind of running joke, especially because there was no chemistry at all between Ione and Jessica. The whole bachelor party thing was a lame excuse to be funny. If Story had left the comedy to the bickering between Ben and Johnnie, it would have been better.

A re-boot? I think it is too soon.
Local Man - 3/9/2009, 2:34 PM
The Galactus cloud can work if done well... anybody read Ultimate FF with Gah Lak Tus
FattSmelliott - 3/9/2009, 2:34 PM
Glory to God!!
TheSoulEater - 3/9/2009, 2:36 PM
watching the first movie (and not being much of a fan of FF) I found the movie to be kinda boring what with them already almost breaking up when they barely started out. It was kinda dumb to do that/ Then I had little hope for FF2 what with the Silver Surfer being there. It ended up with a badass character, Silver Surfer (which was the only cool thing about the movie), same plot (where the team is gonna break up...why do it AGAIN in a different fashion!?), and a cloud where I expected to see the massively large Galactus.

If they do make a reboot, I'll be open to it, sure...I would just hope they do it right...

P.S. I saw Ioan Gruffuld on Melrose Ave. once near my school walking near the liquor store I go to sometimes...I called out to him and he ignored me...what an ass...
crappybumbum - 3/9/2009, 2:36 PM
All the people that complain about the Galactus cloud are morons.

You really think the giant pink and purple android would have translated well to film?

Yeah, stfu, FF2 was good.
saymekian - 3/9/2009, 2:40 PM
Last rumor I've heard was Christian Bale might play Dr. Strange. But the below post has Clooney might play the Doc and Ridley Scott might direct. Karl Urban would be another person to play the Doc.

http://liveforfilm.blogspot.com/2009/01/rumour-clooney-to-play-dr-strange-and.html
SirPrize - 3/9/2009, 2:42 PM
Saymekian if Dr. Manhattan can trot through Nam on the big screen then why not Galactus? FF wasted good villains just like Punisher Warzone
breakUbatman - 3/9/2009, 2:50 PM
Who said Galactus had to be pink and purple. See below.

http://www.manifestdensity.net/2007/06/18/galactus_head.jpg

http://www.jeffpidgeon.com/uploaded_images/galactus-736635.jpg
SirPrize - 3/9/2009, 2:55 PM
what do you mean? jigsaw isn't really that cool of a villan..

at least they didn't waste the red skull yet who i would like to see in the next iron man or a Capt. America movie.
CorneliusLow - 3/9/2009, 2:57 PM
@ Sirprize

Hey man Galactus has pazzazz and is proud of it

He's here, He's Queer, get over it

you ever wonder why Galactus eats planets... they are shaped like balls.
CorneliusLow - 3/9/2009, 3:00 PM
I'm not a fan of the Red Skull.

Hellboy + Skeletor = Red Skull
SirPrize - 3/9/2009, 3:01 PM
hahahahaha yeah
CorneliusLow - 3/9/2009, 3:10 PM
I think that people need to quit whinning about the movies. Both were good and really couldnt have been done any other way.

If they should decide to do a reboot, keep the entire cast the same b/c w/o Chris Evans or Jessica Alba as Human Torch and Invisble Woman, i really dont care to see it.
LaffaTaffa - 3/9/2009, 3:18 PM
I think they should do a movie soley on HT and IG, they are the only 2 that have remotely interesting powers to work with in a movie.

plus both movies wernt as bad as Ghost Rider was
LaffaTaffa - 3/9/2009, 3:21 PM
i think they need to stick with what they have done, there are to many other great adaptions they are waitng to be made, go for a third film and leave it as a trilogy.

the thing is , the first one was made to aim as a family movie and for kids, the second went more adult genre while still keeping some fair comedy in it.

and i think that is the only way to go with f4, the charactors are not exciting enougth to be turned into a really serious film, i jsut cant imagin f4 being any good if they try to turn it out like x men or dk.

keep the same actors, same stle, one more fim and by adding galactucs, if done right it will solve the missing excitment factor,

even throw in the death of human torch to give it some balls, im sure that happend in a comic once or that might be somthign that someone told me.
Rolanddeschain19 - 3/9/2009, 3:23 PM
@ LaffaTaffa

Oh and call it "Dynamic Duo" or "The Fantasic Two" or "The Fantastic Pair"
SirPrize - 3/9/2009, 3:25 PM
I threw up in my mouth when I read this. It had nothing to do with the FF (and they thought watchmen was impossible to make into a film. it's got nothing on FF. the proof is in the pudding, 3 films later). More so it was the Fox part.

I wish they'd stop *&%#ing our superheroes in the &%@. Couldn't we put together some kind of ban on them and Ewey Balls from ever touching another franchise? They don't care about making good true adaptations, they care about creating easy listening versions of great stories to sell to unwitting crowds that haven't read a comic since they were 12.

They're the kind of film makers that say things like - "Could we have wolverine fly in this one?" or "How about we make rogue a lovable hip black boy who can rap, to alter reality. His catch phrase can be 'Don't give me no jive'. The kids will love it and we'll get the tyler perry dollar."

I'd like to reboot fox, personally.
Coats - 3/9/2009, 3:29 PM
They were okay movies but i just don't think there's much you can do with Fantastic 4...The second one was far better than the first...i think a better cast would do it alot of good, but i think if they can redo to Hulk then they can do Fantastic 4.
Crazyhorrormovienerd - 3/9/2009, 3:42 PM
i wanna see some skrulls in the avengers movie
Torque - 3/9/2009, 3:52 PM
I think they should do one more with the first meeting with Namor.
thor19b - 3/9/2009, 3:58 PM
dont bother, no matter what they do i doubt this new movie will be any good. think about it--a nerdy stretch armstrong imitation, invisible woman, flaming person, and a guy made of rock all living together in the middle of the city, fighting crime? it just screams campy. its too lame to be taken seriously as other superheroes can. its fine in the comic world i suppose, so leave it that way

and also, they shouldn't make any new movies until they find a way to make the Thing NOT look like a man wearing a cheap orange rubber suit
JeremyBentham - 3/9/2009, 4:02 PM
why don't they just make a more serious movie with The Silver Surfer?
padidas - 3/9/2009, 4:04 PM
they could with CGI like they did with the Hulk
CorneliusLow - 3/9/2009, 4:05 PM
@padidas

because Cowboy Curtis made his voice sound silly. lol
CorneliusLow - 3/9/2009, 4:05 PM
I thought fantastic four 1 and 2 were ok. Good enough to not reboot already. If every studio wants to reboot every movie that doesnt do as good as Dark knight they're gunna be rebooting every couple years. Just move forward with a better story. All I keep hearing is reboot, reboot, reboot. For god sake who wants to watch 3 origin storys before we get into the characters being who we love for the comic pages. Just make another sequel and quit trying to make every movie a billion dollar blockbuster. Rebooting didnt work to well for Punisher did it?
dxperry - 3/9/2009, 4:19 PM
Man, I hated those FF movies. They were obviously geared toward kids. The stories were unsophisticated and the acting was abysmal. Johnny was the only bright spot, in my mind.

I think a reboot is due if they plan to continue the series.
Bijous - 3/9/2009, 4:53 PM
The movies were okay but were far from great. They were definitely geared for kids, but I think the Fantastic Four is a kind of super-team that lends itself to be for kids more than other super hero/teams like Batman or X-Men. But they still should have made an effort to make it watchable to adults too.

The only cast members I liked were the actors who played The Human Torch and The Thing. I didn't care for anyone else. The guy who played Mr Fantastic was too short and obviously British using a fake America accent. Dr Doom should have had an Eastern European accent and a scarred face. If he didn't have scars, then what's with the Mask. Plus they need to cast someone whose eyebrows don't look like they've been plucked more than the actress who played Sue Storm. Jessica Alba is a fine actress and very beautiful, but she's supposed to be blond and blue eyes with not such a dark tan. She's suppose to look like she could be the sister of the actor who plays Johnny Storm and Jessica did not fit that bill.
Jaxim - 3/9/2009, 5:42 PM
What it really needs is some awesome kick ass fight scenes... We mostly got just rescuing and saving the day scenes in the last two... I want to see more action!!! And no more relationship problems! They are a waist of my time, and i've seen enough of them in spiderman.... The thing was good.... Doom wasn't, and we need a better one
Evil1991 - 3/9/2009, 5:47 PM
People THE FANTASTIC FOUR is a family type comic book. That's what they made. A family film because they are a basically a FAMILY. Any true FF fan would know that. The movies weren't perfect but they weren't total crap either . Be Grateful that we at least got a FF MOVIE.
n1ghtw1ng2832 - 3/9/2009, 5:52 PM
I think it's great.

I liked both movies. We need a F4 team to deal with the skrulls while they put together the Avengers. Also intorducing Namor. I just hope thats what execs are thinking. Marvel has it under control.

I'm not mad at all.
thwip284 - 3/9/2009, 5:54 PM
Actually Thing and Torch were ok in the movies..they at least kept me watching. But anytime i think i might be being too harsh on FF i catch a few minutes on tv and quickly go back to hating it! Mr F and Invisible chick were terrible,,i love to look at Alba but shes wooden as hell. And dont get me started on that other Welsh git (not that all Welshmen are gits!). The main culprit was Dr Doom..Julien "acting vacuum" McMahon. He was abysmal. Doom is a great villain and deserved so much better

Anyway, whoever said Alan Rickman as Dr Strange, thats spot on id say he would be class..as would Danny Day Lewis..but never in a million years would he do it! I want him for Sandman too!
RorMachine - 3/9/2009, 6:04 PM
@ Rorschach01

It was I that said Alan Rickman as Dr Strange.

You're response about DDL playing the Sandman, good choice.
SirPrize - 3/9/2009, 6:07 PM
Wow! Lotsa F4 hatred but you know what? i liked both movies and i dont think a reboot is needed. Its better than most non-Marvel helmed films (Daredevil, Elektra, Ghostrider).

That said, i dont think any F4 movie could be done better than the first two. They were true to the source material in terms of the basic essence of the book.. which is that the F4 is not only a team but a family. That's it and they nailed it perfectly.

It also had action, a lil bit of drama and lotsa light comedy. Special effects and camera angles were worthy of a comicbook movie as well.

The fact of the matter is, like others have said, F4 belongs to the olden times and has never been updated much. It is corny and a bit bland. If they plan to make a darker series, it aint F4 no more.... same can be said for DC's plans to make Superman fit in DK's world. It juz aint right. Its better to leave it as is and who gives a shit anyway, they're not bombing at the box office so why fix something that already works and risk making things worse?
JamesH - 3/9/2009, 7:10 PM
then you sirprize..get THE PRIZE!..see what i did ther? Awful wasnt it?

jamesH the FF movies prob aint quite as bad as people make out but cmon man! Daredevil was 10 times better than both of the FFs. I actually think Dardevil is underrated by the fans..its not great by any means but it was decent and entertaining and could have been amazing with a few alterations.
RorMachine - 3/9/2009, 7:23 PM
Much as I hate to say it, and as a big a comic fan as I am, Hollywood AND my fellow fanboys need to realize that not every comic is ripe for film. Like someone said, FF has had two reboots now and failed both times. Sadly the Hasslehoff Nick Fury movie was better...Just kill it already. Oh and not every movie gets better by taking a 'darker' tone ala Batman...i'm talking to you Superman, Spiderman, and hopefully not FF.
adamrich81 - 3/9/2009, 7:24 PM
I actually liked the movies. The first one I found a little boring, but they had to lay out the story. Second one I enjoyed more. I know I will get crap out of saying this, but I thought it was better than the first. I would like it if they don't do a reboot, but obviously none of our opinions matter.
akthunder - 3/9/2009, 7:30 PM
in light of what sir prize said, i guess really, i have to take that sarcasam on the chin, i know that killing torch of would be stupid cause that would only leave 3 members, but maybe they could have it so the other 3 think he was killed by a villain and that would give them a bigger incentive to be more kick ass and violant.

i dont know, and them maybe have torch make a kick ass come back and help out at the end.

i still think a third movie to finish it of would be much better then a new start, just needs to be more action packed.

Rolanddeschain19 - 3/9/2009, 7:46 PM
Meh...
Jetsaholic - 3/9/2009, 8:15 PM
you FF-haters are idiots. the simplest way to make a successful FF movie is really playing up the sci-fi through Reed, Sue, and Doom and playing up the fun, family aspect through Johnny's and Ben's interactions with Reed and Sue. this could be a huge franchise if they stuck to the best parts of the comics. the larger than life sci-fi and the fun dynamic between the characters. i mean reed and sue are two of the smartest people in the world. way smarter than stark, xavier, or anyone else in the marvelU. this could be a huge sci-fi extravaganza but fox is too stupid to successfully develop the franchise.
KsAoC - 3/9/2009, 8:15 PM
Galactus was only a little bit involved,so i don't care about that

i really don't think there should be a reboot,either just try to do a sequel or just don't do it at all
lilej2 - 3/9/2009, 8:37 PM
Galactus was never meant to just be a cloud. at the end of the movie, you can see the shape of his head in the fire. the silver surfer spin off was going to reveal what was hidden behind the fiery curtain.
blacksword7 - 3/9/2009, 8:46 PM
I am happy to hear about the reboot, but then again its Fox. So im not really expecting anything. So far there is no reboot that has been successful.
HR - 3/9/2009, 9:59 PM
I would like Viggo Mortenson as Dr Doom, and I would like Hugh Laurie as Dr Strange.

I don't want them to reboot the FF. I would like them just to make a good script with the cast they have. I am sick of reboots. Yeah it worked for Batman. Maybe in 10 years from now then reboot. I don't think the X-men should reboot either. Just build off of the Universe that has been created in the movies.
Juicerules - 3/9/2009, 10:30 PM
Wait a minute Aquaman is a Homo (not that theres anything wrong with that), but he likes to hump dolphins. Namor just likes blue chicks. Aquaman is about the most useless character, the best representation of him came from family guy.

Matowar - 3/9/2009, 11:02 PM
i love the fish jumping around him lol
Matowar - 3/9/2009, 11:03 PM
Busta Rhymes as the Black Panther! It could work.... anyways there is a guy on WWE Wrestling who is a "Russian" contender who looks like a buked up and a bit sloppy Namor! I will watch any comic book movie but i will never again watcfh the Ghost Rider movie again!But lets face it the FF4 is a campy comic and for my money they did it pretty well. Doom was weeeeeeeeeek! but whatever It did not suck like Ghost Rider sucked! and CORNELIOUS ROW.... YOUR AVATAR WINS!!!!
Ror- i would love to see Daniel Day Lewis in any comic role! I missed Y'all
shibazz - 3/9/2009, 11:46 PM
Dudes,

Patrick Wilson as Reed Richards

Julia Styles as Susan Richards

Garrett Hedlund as Johnny Storm/aka the Torch

The Rock as Ben Grimm

And Rufus Sewell as Dr. Victor Von Doom

TheSoulEater - 3/10/2009, 1:16 AM
wow. i loved julian mcmahon as dr doom. that guys sweet. and chris evans was a good johnny as well as chiklis the thing. not saying they were amazing movies though either.

that aside, definately too soon for a reboot

VitMagic - 3/10/2009, 3:02 AM
@Rorschach01

Totally agree with the Daredevil verdict. At the time I thought that film was great. It was like the 1st Siderman but darker. People seem to forget that sometimes we have to judge movies with their release date in mind. When Daredevil came to us we only really had Spiderman, the comic movie market was in it's infancy. Yes, if it was redone it could be a lot better, but for it's time it was good.

As far as FF goes. I stand by my earlier post. I see what people are saying about the comics being for families so the movies aimed that way but I have yet to see any FF in any format that I've enjoyed.
Ron - 3/10/2009, 3:12 AM
Dont get me wrong Ror and Howlett.. i loved the Daredevil film as well as F4. Both were not DK or Ironman level but they werent crappy.

What made FF better than DD for me is how the movie captured the essence of the book. FF movie was basically everything that the book was including the theme and the characters.

In DD, true it was dark but not as dark as it should have been. Elektra and a blind lawyer showing off their skills on a kiddie playground in broad daylight? It was the equivalent of Tobey Maguire dancing in Spidey 3! If they took those unecessary and stupid moments out and the made the Kingpin fight better id agree DD is better but that is clearly not the case.
JamesH - 3/10/2009, 4:23 AM
loganoneil I couldn't agree more with every statement of your post. Bryan Singer = Horrible! Remake the X-men!

And Matowar, Aquaman is the shiat! Much cooler than Namor with those little wings on his feet.
LastSon1027 - 3/10/2009, 5:17 AM
BOOOOO!!! I hate reboots, no matter how badly they need it, I hate the idea of starting all over. There was nothing that bad about the last two films that calls for a reboot. Now reboot Daredevil... thats a different story. *sigh* I wonder who would play the roles. Shaman! Oh Shaman, where are you?! How are they gonna top Chiklis as the Thing. A friend and I saw him in 'The Shield" before he was cast for the role originally and my friend and I said to each other, 'that guy has the perfect voice for Ben Grimm.' Julian McMahon could have been a really good Doom, it's just the way his part was written and intended to be portrayed by the director and such. Don't be too hard on him. Chris Evans wasn't too bad either. I just really don't see why a reboot is needed. The 2 combined made over 600 million in theaters. I say keep the current cast. Change the director. Get some good writers who aren't trying to create 'their' version of the characters. And just leave Doom out of it! There is an entire pantheon of villains to choose from for Marvel's first family. A Namor story would rock, a villain that becomes a friend. The Kree or the Skrulls coming to invade our planet, or the both of them spilling their war onto our doorstep. That would get my attention fast, as the Skrulls are one of the coolest alien races ever conceived. Some of their villains probably wouldn't translate well, i.e. Mole Man. All-in-all I say keep going with the current movie continuity and cast. What kind of nail in the coffin do you think a failure would be for a reboot on this entire franchise, in movies that is? Even a recast is preferred over rebooting and starting a new continuity.

Daredevil is another story. They can do whatever they want with it. They couldn't do any worse than the first horrid attempt. Ben Affleck as DD is the worst casting decision since George Clooney as Bats... and I've not seen such an epic failure in casting in a comic movie since. I own the DC version on DVD, but for the same reason I have Ang Lee's steamer, it's a comic movie and I want more to be made so I always go opening weekend and buy the DVD.

Oh yeah! Colin Ferrel was worse than Affleck at times as Bullseye.
TheMyth - 3/10/2009, 5:23 AM
Dude don't get me wrong, I liked the ssecond FF movie, but it didn't do the serise justice. Literaly the main point of MAKING the movie became basicly to jump start Jessica Alba to a new public, (THANK THE POWERS THAT BE FOR IT TO).

But as for as F4 goes, nadda. Chris Evans was brilliant as torch, Chicklis ROCKED as Grimm(No pun intended) and Reed was even done resonably well, especially since I cant think of any actor at that time that would have fit the bill. The real casting taboo's were on the behalf of Julian and ALba. JULIAN actualy, since I have a conflicting regret/non regret relationship where it comes to ALba being in the movie.

Dr. Doom is like one of the most (If not the most) FEARED super villains in the known marvel Universe on a global level. The respect he demands was trampled upon portrayel wise, and acting wise. Alba was simply thier for eye candy purposes, and I didn't really get to see anything hinting me to the SUSAN RiCHARDS who I love in the comics. Reed was the same, his acting was good, and with the plot and lines he was given portrayed a DECENT Reed RIchards, but it didn't cut the mustard.

Now being nit pickey with movies doesn't get people anywhere. But if you have too many slip ups one after the other, in the same, or worse gravity as they go, then you have a flop on your hands, which was what F4 pt 1 was.

I LIKE reboots, when their done well, and my reason for em, is da-da-daaaa BATMAN BEGINS. I'd never seen a literal reserection of a franchise, or love for said comic hero in all my life. I've YET to see somehting that comes close, Hulk was quote unquote incredible yes, but It was enough to get people LIKING it again, and thats pretty much it, its franchise was weak and DYING. Batman's was near DEAD after Joel's desicration.

HOWEVER, reboots can also SUCK, (Punisher Warzone) and such, so reboots aren't the answere to EVERY badly portrayed movie, in fact if they made another F4 movie with the original cast, I'd probobly buy tickets for it top dollar, but only because they made a satisfying SEQUAL. If a film can be redeemed, or not is the defining factor, which is why after seeing Ghost RIder I cringe at the prospect of NICK CAGE taking the movie himself. Good idea, WRONG guy to do it.

In any case. A reboot for the Four would be a GOOD idea, not the BEST IDEA EVER, but definatly up there.

and as for DD, THAT DESPERATLY NEEDS A REBOOT, not only because I cannot stomach Affleck in another movie (NO, not another Dare Devil movie, another MOVIE PERIODE), but because it came off as a spiderman-esque, broke, batman, not dare devil.

Colin Ferral was AWSOME as bullseye, which is MY opinion (and its right), but he did over act. However I find that if anything, COMPINSATING considering everyone else either UNDER acted, or didn't act at all like thier character's given (wiht the exceptions of Foggy, he was BRILLIANT,my favorite guy in the movie actualy.) When the guys clean up the popcorn and the fan boys are finally over Garner's cleavage, and begin to salvage what they got from the movie, WHAT will they remember it for? No one was gonna remember it for Affleck, OR Michael Clark, people can always see Alias if they want to see Jenifer garner in tight leather so thats out.

HENCE BULLSEYE was the one redeeming factor of the whole film, he over acted and it got DD its reckognition. Sure people will hear the name "BULLSEYE"
and think "Oh the guy Colin Feril was in that one Dare Devil movie."
BUT they'll remember the character, unlike SM3 where people to this day don't give a fig about Venom if they'd never heard of him before.

Same with BATMAN with Keaton and Nicholson, we remember that because of Jack's Joker, not Keaton's Batman. So an O.Ding villain HAS its merrits.


TheSoulEater - 3/10/2009, 6:39 AM
I hate to break it to you, but the F4 were bubble gumish
Sonny - 3/10/2009, 6:44 AM
NO MORE REBOOTS, WHY DO PEOPLE WANT EVERY COMIC BOOK MOVIE TO BE LIKE BATMAN THE DARK KNIGHT, THE ONLY REASON IT WAS A EXTRA BIG HIT WAS BECAUSE ONE OF THE MAIN STARS DIED AND IT WAS HIS LAST MOVIE, NOW THE WB WANTS TO MAKE SUPERMAN DARK? SUPERMAN IS NOT DARK,HES A FARM BOY TRUTH JUSTICE AN THE AMERICAN WAY. IT WILL NEVER BE LIKE BATMAN UNLESS WB SAYS FORGET ABOUT TRUE ORIGIN OF THE SUPERMAN AND LETS DO WHATEVER WE WANT WITH HIM CAUSE WE OWN HIM AN NOT D.C
kencanada200x - 3/10/2009, 6:49 AM
NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I understand FF2 was exciting except the whole thing with Galactics. But rebooting is still not the answer. If the fans wanted more action, or darker moments, then doing a third movie is the answer. You can change the dircetor but not the cast.Fans will be disappointed if Alba and Chiklis are not there anymore, even Evans and Iaon. They can add more characters,even heroes like Black Panther or Namor.
Torian Brown - 3/10/2009, 6:55 AM
I've heard the new Fantastic Four were gonna consist of the Village People, I swear I read it somewhere. The indian was gonna play Sue Richards.

Seriously!!!!

I'm such a smartass....:::bowing:::
SirPrize - 3/10/2009, 7:34 AM
do we really need to keep hanging on to the Fantastic Four??? Come on! Let's get some fresh new heroes on the big screen!
PsychoPirate99 - 3/10/2009, 7:54 AM
kencanada - the reason studios want to remake certain comic book movies is because the originals SUCKED!! 'The Dark Knight' wasn't a hit because Heath Ledger died (altough it unfortunately did drum up initail interest in the film), 'The Dark Knight' was a great film - PERIOD. As for rebooting 'Superman Returns', it BLEW (Ror, feel free to jump my ass anytime...)!! Bryan Singer IS NOT a COMIC BOOK FAN! He's NEVER even picked up a comic book (BY HIS OWN ADMISSION)! What kind of director snubbs his source material and expects to to a decent job? He doesn't truly understand the dynaic of the characters involved! His 'vision' was based on two movies that are over 30 YEARS OLD (groundbreaking back then, but corny by today's standard).

In comparison, Kenneth Branaugh (the new dirctor of 'Thor') not only took time to research his character's history, but a lot of the Marvel universe as well (according to Joe Quesada - talk about dedication!), and he's a classically trained SHAKESPEAREAN actor/director! At least HE will TRULY understand what's going on! I'm willing to take bets that THAT movie WILL NOT suck and that there will be no talks of rebooting after it comes out!

I agree that 'The Big Blue Boy Scout' is an icon for truth, justice, the American Way, etc., but don't you think those qualities would stand out even more juxtaposed against a REALISTIC portrail of the world - a world full of crime and violence? Note - I'm not saying change the character, just his surrondings. How much deeper could the character develop in that quagmire, as opposed to rehashing the same 'ole tired storyline (although I must admit Kevin Spacey was the ONLY highlight of the film, giving Lex the teeth he so desperately needed to make him a believavble villain)? If it's broke - FIX IT!!!!!! I say reboot Fantastic Four! ...reboot Superman! ...and what the hell, reboot X-Men - like I said before, Bryan Singer SUCKS as a comic book movie director!!!!!!!!!
loganoneil - 3/10/2009, 8:59 AM
Myth, don't go callin' me on FF, THEY SUCK!!! They're very concept sucks n' gargles!!! Comics, cartoons, movies, you name it, they suck! I wouldn't touch'em with a 20 foot pole!!! Let them rest in peace. Them and any flipity flopity fin totin' aqua dweller. LAAAAAAME!!! johnny Storm was the only decent thing about them, just toss him in a Spiderman movie or something.

I tell ya, next year, the academy will be putting out "best reboot of a franchise" award. Some concepts need it, some don't even belong on the big screen.
Shaman - 3/10/2009, 9:33 AM
loganoneil - SOME PARTS I DO AGREE WITH YOU, BUT WITH ALL THE REBOOTING HOW MANY TIME DO U WANT TO SEE SUPERMAN BEGINNING HIM COMING TO EARTH DISCOVERING HIS POWERS GO TO THE BIG CITY AN STOP A EARTHQUAKE CAUSE BY LEX LUTHOR,SUPERMAN RETURNS IS A REBOOT, JUST MAKE HIM FIGHT REAL VILLAINS THAT PEOPLE KNOW,

YOU GOT TO ADMIT THAT AFTER THE DARK NIGHT, THE BIG WIGS WANT EVERY SUPERHERO MOVIE TO BE LIKE THAT, WHEN THEY ALL CANT, AND NOW THAT WB OWNS ALL DC HEROES THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT AND NOT CARE ABOUT THE FAN AS LONG AS THEY MAKE MONEY,

EXAMPLE: DAREDEVIL IS NOT SPIDER-MAN. BUT PPL GOT SO WORK UP WITH SPIDER-MAN, THAT THEY THOUGH WHEN THEY GO TO THE MOVIES, DAREDEVIL WILL BE JUST LIKE IT, AN WHEN IS WAS NOT, PPL CRAP ALL OVER DAREDEVIL AN SOME PAPERS AN MOVIE CRITICS CALL IT A BAD SPIDER-MAN RIP OFF,

PPL GOT TO LEARN THAT ALL SUPERHEROS MOVIES ARE NOT THE SAME OR SHOULD FALLOW THE LAST ONE OR YOU WILL JUST WANT THE SAME MOVIE OVER AN OVER AGAIN WITH DIFFERENT COSTUMES
P.S LOGANONEIL- WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT TRIPLE H PLAYIN THOR IN THE MOVIE CAUSE HE LOOK KINDA LIKE HIM GOT HIS BUILD ECT. INSTEAD OF SOME SKINNY BLOND GUY
kencanada200x - 3/10/2009, 10:35 AM
First Daredevil, now this. What's next, a Ghost Rider reboot?
GrimReaper90 - 3/10/2009, 10:54 AM
kencanada - who's to say that they HAVE to do a full-blown telling of the origin story in a Superman remake? WHY does it always HAVE to be Lex he's taking on (there are PLENTY of other villains in the Superman universe who'd love to have a go at it!)?

Don't get me started on Sam Raimi - after that last POS, he should be lowered (ever so slowly) into a pot of boiling feces by his toenails! I liked the first two films, but I can't STAND Tobey McGuire or Kirstin Dunst (they are HORRIBLE choices for Pete and MJ!)! As for Daredevil, he's ALWAYS been billed as the 'poor-man's Spiderman'. I actually LIKED the DD film, so I'm not going to say anything...

As for Triple H, I think he shouldn't do anything aside from wrestling or playing giant thugs who don't speak much. He doesn't have the acting chops to handle a character as deep as 'Goldielocks'! I'm pulling for Gerard Butler or Kevin McKidd! Ultimately it's Branaugh's call, and I trust his judgement (he knows the history and he knows what's at stake here...)
loganoneil - 3/10/2009, 11:14 AM
Dont worry Loganoniel im done defending Supes Returns! I liked it and thats that...i will however defend the xmen movies! Just because Singer never picked up a comic doesnt mean he didnt get the characters. He may not have stuck too closely to the source but he nailed Wolverine, Jean Grey, Xavier and the complete wankerness of Cyclops. Also as flawed as the 1st movie was, i honestly dont know hoe you didnt like X2, it still stands as one of the best comic book movies ever made..and he also nailed Nightcrawler in that movie..(not literally i hope!)..and, Chris Nolan never picked up a comic either, until he was offered Batman Begins!
RorMachine - 3/10/2009, 11:26 AM
I respectfully have to disagree with you on X-Men, Ror - It wasn't Singer that sold the characters - it was THE ACTORS. The good Prof was 'nailed' because Patrick Stewart is a consumate actor, did HIS homework and sold the part. Jean (to me) was a bit wishy-washy. I got the 'Ooo, I'm afraid to use my powers' bit, but where was the original vulnerability of the character that endeared her to millions of fans? Wolverine evolved over time as Hugh learned more about the part and did research on his own (still ACTOR driven), but he was never the 'uber-ninja' that's been painted in the comic. We've had this discussion before about Logan's (lack of any real) fighting skills in the films. I also believe that Singer is inexperienced in filming fight scences, and it shows (PAINFULLY, in my opinion) in his two 'X' films. Nightcrawler is... well, Nightcrawler - Alan Cummings is a fanboy.

You're right, Nolan never did read a comic book until he got 'Batman Begins', but at least he did his homework and READ the source material. Any kid in high school will tell you, when you rely solely on the Cliff's Notes instead of actually studying what's assigned, it shows!

Again, another 'agree to disagree'...

Best comic book movies ever made (so far) - 'Dark Knight' and 'Iron Man'

(now if only they'd do a proper 'Sandman'....!)
loganoneil - 3/10/2009, 11:44 AM
LOGANONEIL- I THINK YOUR THE ONLY PERSON WHO LIKE THE DAREDEVIL MOVIE BUT ME, I THOUGHT I WAS ALONE.
I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT ACTORS SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE HEROS AN READ COMICS BOOKS,

ON A SIDE NOTE DO U READ THE NEW X-FORCE, IF U DO THERE IS A PERSON CALLED ELI BARD IN THE STORY HES A LAWYER, WELL HE IS A REAL LIFE PERSON HE A LAWYER FOR MARVEL
AN I KINDA WORK FOR HIM AN PROTECT HIM AND HIS FAMILY AT NIGHT, HE TOLD ME MARVEL WANTS ACTORS TO READ ALOT OF COMICS BEFOR ANYTHING, THINGS ARE CHANGING NOW

I HOPE THAT TRUE INFO I JUST GAVE YOU CAN PUT YOUR MIND A PEACE, CAUSE I ALSO BELIEVE THAT ACTORS SHOULD READ COMICS A SHIT LOAD OF COMICS FROM JACK KIRBY TO NOW
kencanada200x - 3/10/2009, 12:04 PM
kencanada200x - If what you've said is true, all I've got to say is, "Halleluiah, praise be to the comic gods!!!!" It's about time because there's a treasure-trove of historical wealth for an actor to mine (if only they'd take the time to do the homework!)! Like I said before, it really does show when they 'get' the characters they're playing. The only way to do that is to understand the history behind them!
loganoneil - 3/10/2009, 12:09 PM
I'm actually on the same side of the fence with you guys. Hell, i enjoyed Daredevil even more than i did Spider-man. Don't ask me why, DD just appeals to me a bit more.
Shaman - 3/10/2009, 12:18 PM
WHAT I SAY IT TRUE, IF YOU LOOK IN SHE HULK #25 I THINK THERE IS A SHORT STRIP WHERE SHE BREAKS THE FORTH WALL AN SHE COMES IN A KICK ALL THE LAWERS ASS THE GUY WITH THE BLACK SUIT THEY EVEN SAY HIS NAME ELI BARD WHICH THEY USED
HIS NAMED AN JOB IN X-FORCE

BEFORE IT WAS ON THIS SITE I MET THAT GIRL WHO WANT TO PLAY WASP AN SHE HAD AVENGERS COMICS WITH HER WHEN I ASK HIM HE TOLD ME MARVEL GAVE HER COMICS TO LEARN ABOUT WASP HER NAME IS EVA SOMETHING

AM NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO THE STARS
kencanada200x - 3/10/2009, 12:22 PM
Rorschach01 - THE X-MEN MOVIES ARE LIKE, WHAT IF, THE ULTIMATE UNIVERSE AND EXILES AND A SIDE ORDER OF EARTH 616 MASH TOGETHER,
I ENJOYED THE X-MEN MOVIES CAUSE I WANT TO SEE MORE AN MAYBE THEY CAN GET IT RIGHT LATER WITH ORIGINS
kencanada200x - 3/10/2009, 12:25 PM
THANK YOU SHAMAN WITH YOUR LEGACY OF KAIN ICON. WHICH IS HOT BY THE WAY, TO BAD CRYSTAL DYNAMICS IS TO FAR UP THE BUTT OF LARA CROFT TO MAKE A ANOTHER L.O.K I NEVER SOLD OR TRADED IT STILL HAVE ALL 5

kencanada200x - 3/10/2009, 12:30 PM
I believe you, I believe you... 'Eva' huh (oh, god, please let it NOT be Eva Mendes!!!!)? Not Lexa Doig? Damn, Shaman it looks like you might be screwed out of ANOTHER perfect selection! Why doesn't Marvel base their actor selections partially on websites like these? Some of the people here (Shaman, Rorschach, THE HAWK, etc) have made some pretty AMAZING calls on who should play what role. They're a HELLUVA lot better than getting a Tobey McGuire, Kirstin Dunst, or DAVID HASSLEHOFF!
loganoneil - 3/10/2009, 12:35 PM
@CorneliusLow the villains wasted in Punisher Warzone that I meant were Ink ,Pitsy and McGintty

FF doesnt need to go darker it needs more and better SCi-fi. There was no link to other worlds no suprise when surfer came and ontop of that Reed is so dumb that he cant reuse Doom's machine to fix Ben...even though he reverts back to human form in every movie just so we know who's under the prosthetics. Bring in more sci-fi then u can have Namor, Kree, Skrull and maybe the inhumans. Family films dont have to be forgettable.
breakUbatman - 3/10/2009, 12:39 PM
I WANT PPL WHO LOVE COMICS TO IMAGINE A MARVEL CARTOON
WITH NOTHING BUT CROSS OVERS
CALL MARVEL UNIVERSE EVERY WEEK IT WILL BE ABOUT THE LIFE OF ONE HERO AND WHAT HE GOES THROUGH AN BATTLES HE WILL HAVE WITH VILLANS WITH HELP FROM OTHER HEROS MAKE A CAMEO TO HELP HIM
ALOT OF HERO'S AN VILLAINS WILL MAKE ALOT OF STOYS

START WITH GHOST RIDER SEE WHAT ADVENTURES HE CAN GO THROUGH AN EVERY WEEK IT WILL B ABOUT ANOTHER HERO

PLEASE PPL GIVE ME OPIONS
kencanada200x - 3/10/2009, 12:47 PM
Is it going to be more adult-oriented, or another Cartoon Network thing (kinda' like what they've done with Batman... AGAIN)? Also, Ghost Rider has niche appeal - you'd probably want someone with a broader draw - not too big (Spiderman's been done to death!), but not exactly 'second-string' either. What about Matt Murdock (aka Daredevil)? Like I said before, he's the 'poor-man's Spiderman'. He's a lawyer out to help people (so you've got the interaction bit there). (The movie aside) he's a bit more popular (or at least well-known) than Ghost Rider. IF the powers that be decide to do a reboot of the film, this would be a perfect way to build interest in the character...
loganoneil - 3/10/2009, 12:57 PM
THE CARTOON WILL BE MORE ADULT-ORIENTED
DAREDEVIL WILL B NICE
I TALK TO THE EDITOR IN CHIEF, BUT IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE I WANTED TO REALLY KNOW IF I NAMED MY DAUGHTER MARVEL AFTER THE COMPANY
I SAID YEAH BUT ONLY HER MIDDLE NAME, AN IT WAS OVER THE PHONE, THATS HOW HE KNOWS ME LOL
HE LET ME CALL HIM JOE
kencanada200x - 3/10/2009, 1:07 PM
Joe... 'Q' by chance?
loganoneil - 3/10/2009, 1:08 PM
YES JOE Q, MR BARD TOLD HIM I NAMED MY DAUGHTER MARVEL AN WHEN HE CAME HOME THEY WERE ON THE PHONE, HE GAVE IT TO ME TO TALK TO HIM AN TELL HIM YEAH BUT IT HER MIDDLE NAME

I WATCH OVER THEM WHEN THEY SLEEP, I PROTECT THEM
SO ME AND HIM BECAME COOL HE TOLD ME HE WORKS FOR MARVEL MY EYES POP AN JAW DROP,SO EVER SINCE THEN I ALWAYS TALK TO HIM ABOUT COMICS, ONE DAY JOE Q CAME OVER I WENT NUTZ
AM NOT ALLOWED TO GET STAR STUCK

EVEN TOBY CAME WITH HIS DAUGHTER AN GAVE ME A SPIDER-MAN COMIC I MADE HIM SIGN IT
kencanada200x - 3/10/2009, 1:17 PM
Cool (everything but the Tobey bit - not a fan). Next time you see him, tell him I said, "I LOVE the idea of Ken Brannaugh directing Thor - abso-BLODDY-luetly BRILLIANT!!!!" I know you probably can't talk about it, but if they're going to do the 'Thor/Don Blake' thing, has anyone tossed around the idea of having Brannaugh play Blake? I know a lot of fanboys aren't too pleased with the idea of the whole duality thing, but I say if they're gonna' do it, they've got the perfect guy staring them right in the face!
loganoneil - 3/10/2009, 1:23 PM
The girl's name was Eva Longoria and she sucks.
Shaman - 3/10/2009, 1:26 PM
(Either way) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
loganoneil - 3/10/2009, 1:26 PM
I KNEW IT WAS HER SHE WAS SO STUCK UP I FELT LIKE TAKING THE COMICS FROM HER, I ALWAYS BREAK THE RULES THAN HOW I WAS ABLE TO TALK TO JOE Q AND TOBY,
AM TRYIN TO GET JOE NUMBER,
IT COOL WHEN YOU PROTECT THE FAMILY AN THE PERSON WHO IS THE TOP LAWYER FOR MARVEL
EVA THAT SPIC IS SO STUCK UP I DONT KNOW HOW SHE IS GOIN TO PLAY WASP
kencanada200x - 3/10/2009, 1:33 PM
Um... no racial slurs, please. 'Stuck up' I can handle, 'Spic' is pushing it...
loganoneil - 3/10/2009, 1:38 PM
WELL AM SPANISH AN I KNOW MY OWN PPL AN SHE IT ONE OF THEM, JUST YOU SHOULD SEE HOW SHE TREAT PPL WHEN THE CAMERA IS NOT ON, IF SHE WAS NOT THERE FOR MARVEL I WOULD HAVE ALL STAT MAGAZINE AN PAPARAZZI
2 BLOCKS DOWN IS JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE RESTAURANT AN THE STARS TAKE A ROUTE SO PAPARAZZI CANT SEE THEM, THEY NEED SAFE HAVEN AN THE PLACE AM AT IS ONE OF THEM AN THE PAPARAZZI GIVE ME THERE NUMBERS TO CALL THEM AN THEY WILL GIVE ME MONEY FOR IT, I DONT DO IT CAUSE MARVEL MEETIN HAPPEN THERE
kencanada200x - 3/10/2009, 1:44 PM
Superman Returns is the best comic movie ever made. FF? The worst.
SenorLar - 3/10/2009, 1:46 PM
I'm just uncomfortable around ANY slur - I'm not politically correct (god forbid)... just respectful.

SenorLar - That ('Superman Returns' being the best comic movie EVER) is a matter of OPINION...
loganoneil - 3/10/2009, 1:51 PM
loganoneil I WILL TALK TO YOU ANOTHER TIME
I WAS GREAT TALKIN TO SOMEONE WHO CAN KEEP UP A GOOD DEBATE WITH GOOD POINTS AN FACTS YOU HAVE A GREAT COMIC BOOK AN MOVIE KNOWLEDGE
KEEP READING NEVER STOP COLLECTING NO MATTER WHAT
MY LITTLE MARVEL NEEDS ME
kencanada200x - 3/10/2009, 1:53 PM
No problem - look for you later...
loganoneil - 3/10/2009, 1:54 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I NEVER thought the Fantastic Four was very good. I thought the whole "family" dynamic was a bit out of place in a violent superhero world, the names were lame (Mr. Fantastic...how bout Mr. Generic) and their whole origin was stupid, these four numbskulls somehow get to go into space without a whole NASA escort?! I agree with SirPrinz...bury this bad boy unless they're gonna retool it into something cool and NOTHING like the comics!
TheDurkinKnight - 3/10/2009, 2:24 PM
That DOES seem to be the general consensus here...
loganoneil - 3/10/2009, 2:29 PM
IF THERE IS A REBOOT, CAN YOU GET WETA TO DO A CG THING, DONT MAKE GALACTUS A CLOUD, GET A REAL BLUE EYES BLONDE HAIRED SUSAN
GUNSMITH - 3/10/2009, 4:56 PM
as long as jessica alba isn't attached, they can cast 4 asian dwarfs.
InFamouslyCool - 3/10/2009, 6:38 PM
SenorLar, Superman Returns is the best comic book movie ever? You serious?
JamesH - 3/11/2009, 12:58 AM
loganoniel im sorry but your giving the director (singer) WAAAAY to little credit for those movies and those characters. Do you think the cast just did some research, turnrd up and said "ok Brian, weve got it from here, why dont you go hang in your trailer and wel call you if we need a clapperboard." The director draws out the performance, looks for them to deliver the emotion that he thinks warrants the scene, and for them to act and react the way those characters would. Singer became a huge Xmen fan because he saw parrallels with his own life, being part of a minority (Mckellen signed up for the same reason) he was drawn to the political and social themes of predjudice and isolation which is what the XMen were originally created to mirror..as well as the idea that Xavier represented Martin Luther King and Magneto Malcolm X.As flawed as the movies are, they really get accross those themes.


RorMachine - 3/11/2009, 4:51 AM
As you said yourself, "As flawed as the movies are..." - meaning they could have been better (a LOT better, in my opinion).

Once again, "agree to disagree".
loganoneil - 3/11/2009, 7:17 AM
A Daredevil reboot isn't such a bad idea. Ben Affleck did a great job playing Matt Murdock, but he should of buffed up for the roll. He looked out of balance and wobbly in the movie when he was playing Daredevil. Seeing a soft outta shape guy being Daredevil wasn't cutting it.

Get Jon Favreau, or someone comparable to direct it. The leather suit was badass, though. Bringing Elektra in was a little too soon.
SirPrize - 3/11/2009, 7:40 AM
Well in fairness, what movie isnt flawed in some way! I just dont think they warrant a reboot is all.

Sirprize i agree Affleck was decent..certainly wasnt as bad as the fanboys imagine. But man i hated that suit! I mean okay go leather if you feel you have to but what was with the big [frick] off zip running down the middle of it? It made him look like a sexually confused Hells angel. I liked Garners Elkekta too..i just wish they had of followed Frank Millers Elekta:Asassin as a template for her solo movie..now that was a bad film!
RorMachine - 3/11/2009, 8:13 AM
LOGANONEIL LATER ON WILL BE GOING TO WORK I WILL TRY TO GET INFO ABOUT THE DR STRANGE MOVIE, CAUSE THIS GUY IS TRYING NOT TO TELL ME ILL TRY TO TWIST HIS ARE A BIT
GIVES ME HINTS HERE AN THERE BUT LIKE NOTHING SOLID
kencanada200x - 3/11/2009, 8:16 AM
Agree to... AGREE on that DD and Elektra! Affleck was decent enough and I didn't have a problem with the suit - it looked close enough to the comic (if you squint). I don't even know why they decided to make that 'Elektra' film... ok, I KNOW why - MONEY, MONEY, MONEY! It's obvious it wasn't for artistic expression or character integrity! You're right, a PROPERLY done version of 'Frank Miller's Elektra: Asassin' would have been KILLER (no pun intended) and an infinately better choice than what they decided to run with!
loganoneil - 3/11/2009, 8:21 AM
COOL - keep us posted!
loganoneil - 3/11/2009, 8:23 AM
INSTEAD OF A REBOOT, JUST MAKE A SEQUEL BETTER THAN THE FIRST ONE, A LITTLE DARKER AND LITTLE MORE FIGHTS WITH OTHER VILLAINS MAYBE DEADPOOL COULD BE THERE HIRED TO KILL DAREDEVIL,
AND HAVE PPL STOP TAKIN OFF HIS MASK
THAT WAS MY ONLY PROBLEM WITH DD
kencanada200x - 3/11/2009, 8:27 AM
That's been a fault of the COMIC writers - it seems to be a trigger mechanism that they use. He's had his mask removed and removed it himself so many times, I'm surprised that there's anyone in the Marvel universe who DOESN'T know Matt Murdock is the Daredevil!
loganoneil - 3/11/2009, 8:32 AM
I THOUGHT I WAS NEXT TO REMOVE HIS MASK,

GOOD THING ABOUT WEDNESDAYS IS THAT'S THE DAY WHEN MOST MEETING HAPPEN AT MY JOB SO IF JOSH HARNETT SHOWS UP TO DAY I WILL KNOW FOR SURE HES PLAYING LOKI
THEY ALWAYS COME IN WITH SUNGLASSES AND HODDIES , LIKE I CANT SEE THROW THAT
kencanada200x - 3/11/2009, 8:38 AM
Josh Hartnett?!!! Oh man, WTF is Marvel doing?!!! Does anyone over there understand the idea of casting the RIGHT PERSON for the role, not just who's popular at the moment?!!!!
loganoneil - 3/11/2009, 8:47 AM
Yeah i guess the mask thing is just something we have to put up with if we want big name stars cast as our superheroes. Maguire was the same in the Spiderman movies..mask whipped off every chance he got. Thats why they didnt go with a big name for Rorschach..although Jackie Earl Haley was nominated for an oscar! But not a big star is more accurate.

RorMachine - 3/11/2009, 8:54 AM
Y DONT YA MOVE THIS CONVERSATION OVER TO THE JOSH HARNETT
IS LOKI PAGE
kencanada200x - 3/11/2009, 8:56 AM
Y DONT YA MOVE THIS CONVERSATION OVER TO THE JOSH HARNETT
IS LOKI PAGE
kencanada200x - 3/11/2009, 8:56 AM
Where is that?
loganoneil - 3/11/2009, 8:57 AM
JUST GO TO NEWS AN ITS THERE
kencanada200x - 3/11/2009, 9:03 AM
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