Joss Whedon Verbalizes the Freedom Marvel Studios Granted for THE AVENGERS

May 4th, Man! Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Nick Fury, SHIELD, Loki, Leviathan, etc. 10 years ago, I would've never dreamed of this. Marvel, you never fail to astonish me, and Joss, you are my Master now.

Just you wait, this will be the best CBM ever.

Just look at the size of that forehead.

@PartyHard Check out this pic of him walking around on set :P

i LOVE his Astonishing X-Men run. and if that gives any idea of what he does with this Avengers movie...we'll all be in for a GREAT TREAT at the cinemas, this summer.

From a writing stand point, it was actually probably helpful for Joss to have bulletpoints he had to hit. As far as directing, sounds like it was interferance free once they saw the script included everything they wanted it to be.

I mean Whedon even admits that he had to look at their directives for style. So in what way, shape or form is this his film? I don't want all films to become subservient to big business demands but it looks like this is just another example of corpations dictating to us what the American culture should look like.

@ralfinader: how do you know the points he had to hit were winning points? because it's Marvel studios and they know how to write comics? Comics are not films so why would that be reassuring?

@Niuhll: he agreed because otherwhise he wouldn't get a big, fat paycheck that's why. and even if it's not that reason it does not change the fact that he caved in to corporate pressure and that the film is not his movie he's making but the studio's.

@RossBentley: Remember Tron Legacy? Remember John carter? Those films did not get a lot of critical praise but since Disney owned these properties they marketed the hell out of them so it does look like the Avengers is just another Disney marketing tool to sell toys. i hope I'm wrong but it doesn't look like it.

HE WORKED WITH MARVEL, HIS TRACK RECORD WITH COLLABORATION PIECES IS NUMEROUS, HE DID BUFFY, "WANNA MAKE AVENGERS YOUR WAY, NO BRAINER, OF COURSE."

Maybe they learned from the Iron Man 2 situation. Favreau was not happy with them at all and it showed in that subpar movie.

Can't wait!

@knossis: of course I am critical of myself but I can't lie about the facts: with Kubrick you got maybe not as many films as you do with people like Whedon but at least you knew you were in for something very special, very personal and groundbreaking because he worked outside of the hollywood machine and i know that when you are developing a property you have to make certain concessions but remember that films made by people like Terry Gilliam are always better when there is zero studio interference.

Studios should say "here's the brand called the Avengers and now do your interpretation of it using any characters you want, as long as you don't spend more than what we allow you to spend." But since their only incentive is profit they'll never take a chance like this. They must control it because they say what constitutes a success for them and at the same time they need to preserve an image of free enterprise and fairness.

So corporations employ people. Wow, so does the public sector. also, what about self-employed people working independently? I thought that's what independent filmmaking was. I could say (were i a corporate mogul): "I'll pay you 2 dollar/hour to scrubb toilets in the building and we'll call you an employee". Doesn't mean I'll leave you enough money to survive on your salary, though, despite me employing you. Corporations are not evil, they are psychotic legal entities (I don't consider them people), because they'll advocate contradictory policies, whenever it suits them best (which makes them unpredictable ad therefore unreliable) and as long as Marvel and DC can share the market between themselves and noone can enter it they're fine with regulations that keep it that way but as soon as you try to point out that they have a monopoly they start crushing your freedom to speak out about it. there's a difference between big business and SMEs, I know but Marvel is a major player with big influence. So they're fine with artsistic freedom as long as they are sure that they'll make a profit off a good director and they're interfereing whenever profits are in danger. so there's no consistency. i'd like this film to have a life on its own years after it comes out but with studio products you often get consumption and not much more and before you know it they'll reboot everything.

Just because something is part of a system does not mean you have to blindly accept it without questioning it.

@Neobaggins: how is them butchering your song for a quick buck not evil?

Alot of people have good points on this movie.

We only seen previews. Lets wait and see then judge. Alot of you are making emotional decisions whether the film is going to be good or bad because your either a Marvel or DC fan. Let's slow down.

I honestly don't understand all the whining and complaints about Marvel's limited control of the movie??? Isn't it their characters that they created??? If YOU were having a movie made about a property that YOU created and made a part of American culture, you can be damned sure YOU'D stipulate that certain points of the movie should go the way YOU want them to! Would you really give 100% total control to a single person with no input whatsoever?? PLEASE!!!

"oh,he haz no fre3dom de"

seriously guys,do you expected Whedon to CHANGE everything MARVEL has been setting up for the past 4 years?

of course MARVEL gave him the basic parameters,like the villain or the characters,it's the interaction between these characters what makes the movie,not the characters themselves.
besides,it's their property! it's not that MARVEL is an EEEEEEVIL corporation or something (btw,what kind of bullsh*t is that? that't the dumbest thing I've read in a while)

@Azazel1
don't bring that sh*t in here,I bet even Nolan has some minor/basic parameters set by the studio,after all he's working with a property that's not his (Nolan doesn't own Batman,WB and DC does)