Joss Whedon's BATMAN Movie Pitch To Warner Bros. Was Like "Talking To A Wall"

Reminiscing about pitching what would've been his Batman Begins, prior to the Christopher Nolan-directed reboot, check out what The Avengers director Joss Whedon had to say!

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By DCMarvelFreshman - 3/10/2012
Excerpted from his lengthy panel at the SXSW annual film and music festival in Austin, Texas, via Leaky News, Marvel's The Avengers writer-director Joss Whedon recalled pitching his "Batman" movie to Warner Bros. Evidently prior to Christopher Nolan's critically acclaimed Batman Begins, read what Whedon says below!

When they were going to redo Batman, before Batman begins, [and he started thinking about it]:
“And so I went in to pitch a Batman movie, and my heart was on the table. I was so into it. And I could tell the executive I was talking to was just completely thinking about their schedule and their window and it was like I was talking to a wall. It was a different language. AndI drove away from the meeting and I actually said to myself like, how much more indication do I need that the machine doesn’t care? AndI got back to work and they cancelled ‘Firefly.’ And I was like ‘IT WAS RHETORICAL! I wasn’t asking for more!’ That was a bad day for me. Their structure cannot be built on passion. I believe in some ways they should be, more, but right now they’re not and I cannot fault them for that.”


Judging from how successful Warner Bros.' Caped Crusader flicks have been with Christopher Nolan at their helm, surely they have no regrets passing on Whedon's pitch. Of course, with The Dark Knight Rises fourthcoming, and concluding the franchise, do you think Whedon should be reconsidered for the rumored reboot? Not likely, with The Avengers a guaranteed franchise, but what do you think?

Back in 2008, Joss Whedon described what his Bat movie would've explored. Read what he said HERE!



Source: Leaky News
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JonasWepeel - 3/10/2012, 10:58 AM
So what was the pitch?
clogan - 3/10/2012, 11:04 AM
A Joss Whedon directed Batman movie? Would've been awesome.
Mrcool210 - 3/10/2012, 11:08 AM
Man that would have been awesome, i could have seen nathan fillion as bruce wayne, now that would have been great
patriautism - 3/10/2012, 11:18 AM
Funny because Angel star David Boreanaz was going top play Bruce Wayne in Batman Begins but turned it down..
OnLeatherWings - 3/10/2012, 11:25 AM
you all would be bashing whedon like you bash nolan right now if he ended up directing the batman series.
JonasWepeel - 3/10/2012, 11:27 AM
Could have been cool, but I'm happy he got Avengers
JudgeDeath - 3/10/2012, 11:28 AM
can anyone tell me why people here think Whedon is a great film maker?? I don't get it.
Zordan - 3/10/2012, 11:30 AM
nolanbale
nerdman81 - 3/10/2012, 11:30 AM
It would have been a much more faithful movie! Too bad we had to settle for gritty realism without the flare of a proper rogues gallery! Sigh
antonio - 3/10/2012, 11:32 AM
Whedon Batman film probably would not be all that. Wonder Woman, however, would have been perfect for Whedon. Shame that never got made.
Action - 3/10/2012, 11:32 AM
I'm glad Warner Bros. went with Christopher Nolan. Nolan made Batman begins and Batman Dark knight, two of the best comic book movies ever made.

Let's see what Joss Whedon does with the Avengers and then I might regret Warner Bros. picking Nolan instead of Whedon.
prettynuclear2 - 3/10/2012, 11:33 AM
whedon is too dorky for batman. his writing can be really juvenile.
darthbobtarkas - 3/10/2012, 11:33 AM
They wouldn't be as mainstream as the Nolan flicks though. So I don't fault Marvel. People love gritty nowadays.

@RossBentley
Firefly, Serenity, Buffy. Google em. Good stuff.
batfan175 - 3/10/2012, 11:36 AM
i don't know how much more faithful of an adaptation it would've been because, remember: just because something looks like from the comics does not make either the story, the acting or the direction any better. It's so out of context to say "he would've been better". better in the eyes of who, is all i want to ask. and then people here would be complaining about how Whedon's bataman does not correspond to their interpretation; peiple are never satisfied with what they're given that's the problem.
ager - 3/10/2012, 11:36 AM
My guess it would've centered around Catwoman or pre-Batgirl Barbara or Sarah Essen or it would vebeen from the POV of Batman's woman. Everything he ever does is woman-centric, that's not always a bad thing, but not always good. He wouldve been great for WW cuz of that
JudgeDeath - 3/10/2012, 11:36 AM
@darthbobtarkas - i know what he has done in the past. Nothing to write home about.
antonio - 3/10/2012, 11:37 AM
But Joss and Chris are directors of two of quite possibly the biggest CBM's ever in The Avengers and The Dark Knight Rises, respectively so it all turned all great in the end. 8)
ManOfKrypton - 3/10/2012, 11:37 AM
Yeh what was the bloody pitch? I wanted read his take on a Batman Movie.

I have to say this article was pointless.
ALmighty1080 - 3/10/2012, 11:37 AM
THANK GOD! WB dodged a bullet not hiring him
fedup - 3/10/2012, 11:38 AM
I'm not really a Whedon fan, so I can't say I'm broken up about it, but it is a shame that passion projects usually end up either on the back burner/development hell or never get past the pitch stage.
Supes17 - 3/10/2012, 11:40 AM
Well, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I am happy with WB's decision. If he couldnt keep them interested, I doubt that I would have been interested as well We got 2 awesome Batman movies and another one on the way.


I'd still give Whedon a chance in the future. Maybe with a Batman Beyond type film.
Dev7 - 3/10/2012, 11:41 AM
Whedon directing a Batman movie? LOL

and I thought I've heard it all.

I consider Whedon as being Riami-lite in terms of directing.
Supes17 - 3/10/2012, 11:43 AM
He'd be great for Wonser Woman. Hendricks has a nice rack
JudgeDeath - 3/10/2012, 11:43 AM
im looking forward to the avengers, but i still think they should have cast Techno Viking as Thor. He fights crime and he dances. Legend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VudJpH-ytH4
DCMarvelFreshman - 3/10/2012, 11:44 AM
@ManOfKrypton I have to say you didn't read the article.
superotherside - 3/10/2012, 11:46 AM
Interesting. I wonder what he would have done with it. Still glad he's on Avengers and not Batman, he seems more suited for Avengers.
CaptainObvious - 3/10/2012, 11:46 AM
I found Whedon's idea for Batman:
"In my version, there was actually a new [villain], it wasn't one of the classics - which is probably why they didn't use it," he explained. "It was more of a 'Hannibal Lector' type - he was somebody already in Arkham Asylum that Bruce went and sort of studied with. It was a whole thing - I get very emotional about it, I still love the story. Maybe I'll get to do it as a comic one day."

http://io9.com/5035704/joss-whedons-batman-movie-that-never-was
MovieMaster - 3/10/2012, 11:51 AM
I'm glad they didn't hire him. His pitch sounded horrible
GeneralZod1138 - 3/10/2012, 11:56 AM
@CapOv

If that's really his pitch, I'll pass.

Thank God that was never made.
thewonderer - 3/10/2012, 11:57 AM
LOL at the Marvel fans insulting Nolan. This is what Whedons said about Nolan

I just love the respect [Nolan has] for the character and the world,” he said. “I thought Christopher Nolan’s done an amazing job of bringing out the comic book, and I see a lot of movies [coughs “HULK”] — sorry, I had a Hulk stuck in my throat — that don’t really have the aesthetic or the pathos or really get why the comic book works.”

Whedon said he wanted to create an original character...which sounds horrible
And you morons have the audacity to say Nolans deconstructing the comic book genre when Whedon himself deems Nolan great at bringing out Batman

antonio - 3/10/2012, 11:57 AM
His pitch sounds like gold compared to Darren Aronofsky's Batman: Year One.
Lert - 3/10/2012, 11:59 AM
WELP!.. That says it all!!!
PaulRom - 3/10/2012, 12:17 PM
Yeah his pitch wouldn't have been that good.

James McTeigue or David Fincher for the next Batman series.
Minghagz - 3/10/2012, 12:20 PM
meh...

I had my doubts about him and the Avengers at first but it seems like he's going to deliver. I think he's better for the Avengers but not good for Batman.
Doctorwho22 - 3/10/2012, 12:25 PM
Im glad they didn't go for his and did Nolan's instead. Joss seems more "comic" oriented with is movie while Nolan can do a comic movie but make it feel like it can happen in the real world if you know what I mean.
orpheus - 3/10/2012, 12:39 PM
Who knows how Whedon's Batman would have gone, but for all the whiners about Dark Knight's "realism", as if that's a negative thing, already had the comic-pop flamboyancy in Burton and Schumacher's films. If they are going to do a reboot like they did with Batman Begins, they're going to take a different approach (BB was pretty comic book-y, but the way).

Pretty fashionable to hate on Nolan these days, I guess as a backlash to the popularity of his Batman movies.

My take is to appreciate that particular interpretation of the characters. We've gotten a LOT of great villains thanks to the DK trilogy - Joker, Two-Face, Scarecrow, Ras Al Ghul, Bane, Catwoman, even Zsasz showed up, crime lords like Maroni.

But bitchy fanboys gotta bitch.

"Meta-human" villains in Dark Knight trilogy are lame, even in the comics they're weak characters and lack the narrative impact compared to the more 'reality-based' villains like Joker, Two-Face, Catwoman, ect. 'Metahumans' just wouldn't fit into the aesthetic of the DK trilogy. Heck, Clayface wouldn't have fit into a Schumacher film and Freeze was too far out even for a Burton film.
orpheus - 3/10/2012, 12:41 PM
Also, one of the most frequently-cited reasons for batman's appeal is that he isn't a super-powered character. That bit of groundedness is his strength, and the DK trilogy really appeals to that aspect, taking it a bit further in a way the comic books couldn't (because of the medium).

I say f/cking relax.
headlopper - 3/10/2012, 12:42 PM
Corporate stone-walling Joss.
No creativity necessary. Just tell em' what they want to here! Ha! What a joke!

How Nolan got through to them, I may never know...but I'm glad that he did!
Mastyrwerk - 3/10/2012, 1:02 PM
Joss' brilliance lies with ensembles. Batman is too focused on a single protagonist for Whedon's strengths to really shine.
TheMarvelWay - 3/10/2012, 1:08 PM
I followed the link to his pitch and find that it would've been ill advised. Watching a young Batman face a Hanninbal Lector ripoff is pretty bad. He needs to stick to writing "Popcorn movies" and leave the real filmmaking to better people!
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