SPECULATION: How The Mandarin May Be Reintroduced In Iron Man 4

PLEASE BE ADVISED! If anyone has not yet seen Ben Kingsley's one shot All Hail the King, PLEASE DO NOT READ THE ARTICLE UNTIL YOU HAVE SEEN THE ONE SHOT. I'M SERIOUS. If you have seen the one shot, then please resume on reading this article. It may contain interesting information on how the Mandarin may be introduced.

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By PredatorRIsing - 2/12/2014
After months of irritating arguments between angry fans and selfish cyberbullying scumbags over the twist and swindling on the Mandarin, a Marvel One Shot titled All Hail the King featuring the Madarin (Trevor Slattery) has been announced for release with Thor the Dark World dvd on February 25th. Sources say that it will fix the very error that Marvel has made on the character in Iron Man 3, plus sources say that the terrorists from the original Iron Man film will be upset with their leader's name being taken by a drunken actor and to the fact that this one shot is rumored to be a prologue to Iron Man 4, hope has it that Marvel Studios may have finally came to sense and decided to reintroduce the Mandarin as the actual magic ring blaster we know from the comics and as the real leader of the Ten Rings that has not been specifically introduced yet in the Marvel Cinematic Universe in Iron Man 4. To find out how a retraction on the character seems possible, please read this article to find out.

While it is to feature Trevor doing a documentary while in the prison he was sentenced to, Drew Pearce, who wrote the script says that the One Shot will fix the error that occured in Iron Man 3 which is hopefully the setback of Aldrich Killian being the Mandarin because the Mandarin was suppose to be leader of the terrorist cell in Afghanistan called the ten rings which means the Mandarin would have be someone native/positioned with his subordinates in that country and wears ten rings and is certainly not some extremis powered scientist from America who use to be a fan boy that Tony Stark pisses off which made him become the maniac who threatened him in the third movie.
I mean it doesn't make any sense for an american to be the leader of a terrorist organization in an enemy country and come on. Military contracts? That doesn't cut it at all. Plus none of the actual terrorists from the first Iron Man movie were seen in Iron Man 3 and do you really expect us to believe that Killian is the MCU Mandarin just by having a dragon tattoo on his chest, equipped with martial arts skills, extremis and people using people as masks theatrics? It's not enough. None of it is.

Ten Rings go Global

So far the Marvel One Shot is a start on fixing the problem that occured in Iron Man 3 because in the one shot, we learned that Trevor Slattery and Aldrich Killian were never the Mandarin. With word out on the net that this one shot might be a prologue to the upcoming Iron Man 4 and that some of the Ten Rings operatives not only in Afghanistan but pretty much other parts of the globe are angry that their leader's name is being used by a drunken british actor who is not really affiliated with them, and since one of them has intercepted Slattery in the Sea Gate prison and has some of the other terrorists extract him and take him to the real Mandarin of their organization this could mean only one thing, that Marvel Studios has decided to redo/reintroduce the Mandarin as the real and more specific leader of the Ten Rings for Iron Man 4 and if that happens, Shane Black's specifications of the Mandarin's MCU version being Aldrich Killian will be debunked and that we may actually get to see the real power ring blasting Mandarin from the comics in the films after all.

How would it be possible for the Mandarin to get a retraction on his Marvel Cinematic Version after what Black just specified him as in Iron Man 3, you'd ask? Well it's not everyday or every movie heroes and villains get second chances in a potential comic based cinematic franchise but after seeing what was completely out of whack in the previous film other than the disappointment of a very favorite character being screwed up and the next set of Iron Man movies planned to be non-comic based, a redo on the Mandarin does sound possible. After all, with the fourth Iron Man movie being planned as a James Bond like blockbuster, what other terrorist organization would be fit for the film for Tony Stark to deal with and who else would be fit as bond villain like foe than the real Mandarin who is yet to be properly reintroduced himself?

Now for the Mandarin to be properly reintroduced as the more specific leader of the Ten Rings, he is gonna have to be depicted in a more decent and dressed more civilized like his modern day version in the Invincible Iron Man comics 500 - 526 because of how they treated Kingsley's character in Iron Man 3, we all understand that the character cannot work properly in his classic comic inspired version, you know with the wardrobe and the idea of not making the character chinese will still stand. But when Marvel Studios does reintroduce the Mandarin in Iron Man 4, they'll be sure to the power rings for the character this time. All they need to do to make the power rings look real would involve some deviations which involves basing their powers off a different source of magic and science separate from the ones in the comics. With the film being non Iron Man comic based, the rings worn by the Mandarin will probably be Asgardian since it's so far one specific source of magic available and they wouldn't involve alien dragons being their makers otherwise they wouldn't look real enough at all in the MCU. And if Mandarin is officially reconfirmed for Iron Man 4, the actor best suitable for the role of the villain's proper version is


Sean Penn
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Sean Penn may not be chinese or native to the middle east but he is another actor in LA who bares a facial resemblance to the Mandarin just like Ben Kingsley plus his tone of voice sounds similar to the one that Kingsley made as the Mandarin in the first half of Iron Man 3 and since he is 17 years younger than Kingsley and played the ruthless mob boss Mickey Cohen in the movie Gangster Squad, he should still have plenty of strength and fight in himself to take the role as the master of the rings and battle Robert Downey Jr.'s Iron Man in the 4th installment. He would be almost the exact spitting image that Killian had idolized Trevor Slattery as when he had framed the actor for the suicide bombings of his failed experiments just to hide himself from the authorities and if Marvel does redo the Mandarin in Iron Man 4, they will make sure to have the magic rings done this time while avoiding the chinese stereotypes and he may not need to be based in Afghanistan either.

Sean Penn to play REAL Mandarin in Iron Man 4

And if Sean Penn or who else will be doing the real Mandarin in Iron Man 4, he will be depicted in a more civilized way similar to the character from the modern day comics and while wearing the 10 Asgardian power rings and running his safeguarding organization, the character's evil scheme will not indeed be based off any of the Iron Man comics but speculation has it that it may involve shutting down technology all across every major section of the planet and no it will not involve some magic jewel called the Heart of Darkness. It would involve something more modern but more high tech like missiles and bombs that can unleash a large electromagnetic pulse.

But not only will the Mandarin have his Ten Rings subordinates on his side but also a couple other villains from the Iron Man comics and also other comics in the Marvel Universe as benefactors and henchmen working for him.

Plus when the Mandarin battles Iron Man with those rings, he will need to suit up in armor so that the fight looks just as real in the films like the comics and the armor would look almost similar to the one from Iron Man Armored Adventures and that would definately be sweet!

Mandarin Command


All that is left now for the Mandarin yet to make his proper appearance in Iron Man 4 is what his real name should be. Well out of all the most unused characters in the Iron Man comics, there is one name suitable for this renewed version;

Kearson DeWitt
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Kearson DeWitt who was origially the Overlord in the comics will do as the real Mandarin in Iron Man 4 and since the film is said to not be comic based, anything is possible plus the character's original ego Overlord would be referenced to what the character will describe himself as while wearing the ten power rings as the Mandarin.

But in order to find out for sure that Marvel is reintroducing the Mandarin, be sure to check out the Marvel One Shot on the Thor the Dark World DVD next month. And let's hope it's true.

Oh and for those of you who still wouldn't believe me on this article, I strongly suggest that you wait to comment until you have seen the one shot that stars Sir Ben Kingsley as "the Mandarin" Trevor. There in the one shot you'll see that after the documentary, you will witness a plot twist that fixes the issue that occured in Iron Man 3 and then you should know how serious I am this time and if you're all wondering why I have no need for Kingsley's character to be fixed is not only because a counter twist on having him be the real Mandarin would not only wreck the point of view but because of how old the british actor in person is and for how his character turned up, it's pointless ,which is why I now put my hopes for the real Mandarin that wasn't introduced yet to be the Mandarin with ten magic rings and for someone like Sean Penn to play that character for the next film.

And I'll brings you up to speed to show you how the ten magic rings will be done in the next article but until then stay tuned.
Source: comicbookmovie.com
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ruadh - 2/12/2014, 6:35 PM
"I mean it doesn't make any sense for an american to be the leader of a terrorist organization in an enemy country and come on. Military contracts? That doesn't cut it at all. Plus none of the actual terrorists from the first Iron Man movie were seen in Iron Man 3 and do you really expect us to believe that Killian is the MCU Mandarin just by having a dragon tattoo on his chest, equipped with martial arts skills, extremis and people using people as masks theatrics? It's not enough. None of it is"

I don't believe he ever said he WAS the leader of that terrorist organization. In fact, it was made clear in the film that Trevor's character was simply claiming to be their leader, while having no actual contact with the Ten Rings in any way. Nor did Killian. It was all a ruse. That is also why you never see the actual terrorists from the first Iron Man film.
Praetorian - 2/12/2014, 6:41 PM
So you want one white business man who turned out to be the Mandarin to actually be copying another white businessman who is disguised as the mandarin? You're [frick]ing high. Plus Fin Fang Foom and the interdimensional alien dragon ship is WAY more interesting than explaining it as Asgardian technology.
Praetorian - 2/12/2014, 6:44 PM
Your premise is garbage.
NovaCorpsFan - 2/12/2014, 6:44 PM
You must've missed when Drew Pearce said, "Nobody's apologising for the Mandarin twist anytime soon".
WYLEEJAY - 2/12/2014, 6:50 PM
"While it is to feature Trevor doing a documentary while in the prison he was sentenced to, Drew Pearce, who wrote the script says that the One Shot will fix the error that occured in Iron Man 3 which is hopefully the setback of Aldrich Killian being the Mandarin because the Mandarin was suppose to be leader of the terrorist cell in Afghanistan called the ten rings which means the Mandarin would have be someone native/positioned with his subordinates in that country and wears ten rings and is certainly not some extremis powered scientist from America who use to be a fan boy that Tony Stark pisses off which made him become the maniac who threatened him in the third movie."

Longest sentence I ever read. I read it without taking a sec to breath and almost passed out.

Your article takes a bit from so many versions of the Mandarin.
Magic rings from Iron Man animated movie.
Armored Mandarin from Iron Man armored adventures.
Non chinese Mandarin from Iron Man 3.

Marvel should just pick ONE version to base the REAL Mandarin on. Imo

ruadh - 2/12/2014, 7:13 PM
Also, I'll be VERY surprised if this one shot is setting up Iron Man 4. It's more likely a simple little bone to toss at the disgruntled fans just to finally get them to be quiet about the whole matter. It clearly isn't going to work.

The most exciting thing to me about All Hail the King is the OTHER villain that showed up in it...
Pedrito - 2/12/2014, 8:13 PM
"Fix the very error"?
There was no error. We didn't get the classic Mandarin because they had a different story to tell.

If they ever have a story to tell with the classic Mandarin, they'll bring him. But not because the character or his fans "deserve it" or whatever nonsense.
Lhornbk - 2/12/2014, 8:43 PM
Okay, first of all, while I'm sure there will be an Iron Man 4 eventually, it probably won't happen anytime soon, not until after Avengers 3. And I think you got confused when they referenced James Bond. I have never heard anything about it being a James Bond type thriller. What the people at Marvel have said is that they believe Iron Man can be like James Bond in that they can switch actors and just keep making movies without rebooting.

As for the Mandarin, frankly the 1 thing that will tick me off would be for Marvel to give in to the whiny fanboys and try to "fix" the supposed "mistake." The movie was fine, it made a billion dollars, there was no mistake. Hopefully, the one shot is the end of this nonsense.
Lhornbk - 2/12/2014, 8:47 PM
Oh, btw, this is the 2nd really stupid theory you've put up today. Seriously, stop writing editorials for awhile.
CorndogBurglar - 2/12/2014, 9:20 PM
The Mandarin's rings aren't magical, goddamn it.

And why would you tell everyone NOT to read your article until they've watched the one-shot, even though it won't be released until next month?

You really aren't the brightest, are you?
Alphadog - 2/13/2014, 12:08 AM
Nobody is planning to do a Iron Man 4 movie. Maybe we will have one but it absolutely won't be until after Phase 4. The Mandrin will probably just be used in Marvel Agents of Shield (they've already introduced one Iron Man villain so using the Mandarin for the second season wouldn't suprise me at all), the Netflix shows or Doctor Strange (I don't think that it will actually be magic either so this fits with the idea. A good way to connect it to Iron Man which is what this is supposed to replace and Baron Mordo as a similar vibe so it would make sense for them to connect him with the Mandarin).
charlie2094 - 2/13/2014, 1:45 AM
@CornDog

Did you even read the text? The One-Shot leaked online and many on here have already seen it, hence everything he talked about.

The One-Shot leaked and it confirmed the existence of a REAL Mandarin so it's fair enough to say.
charlie2094 - 2/13/2014, 1:51 AM
@Lhornbk @Pedrito @Nova

If you read the text, All Hail the King does "fix the error" and confirm the existence of a REAL Mandarin, and that Killian was not at all the Mandarin, he merely based him off of someone else.

charlie2094 - 2/13/2014, 2:05 AM
I like that people have come on here and completely ignored all the text and defended the twist.

The One-Shot leaked and confirmed a REAL Mandarin, like the text says...even Marvel have said it was planned all along.
sikwon - 2/13/2014, 3:25 AM
Taking into account that I loved the twist, I thought it wasbclever, well done and well explained I wouod still like to see another version of the Mandarin as long as its good.
BaronZemo - 2/13/2014, 5:16 AM
@CorndogBurglar
The one-shot leaked online! You are insulting him and you are wrong. You aren't very bright, are you?
CorndogBurglar - 2/13/2014, 5:17 AM
@ Charlie

Yes, I did read it. Did you? At no point does it mention the one-shot leaking online. It talks about things that sources are saying about it, but "sources" say a lot of things about a lot of movies that turn out not to be true.

But yeah, nowhere in the article does it mention word one of the one-shot leaking online and many people seeing it. In fact, he talks more like no one has actually seen by saying things like, "But in order to find out for sure that Marvel is reintroducing the Mandarin, be sure to check out the Marvel One Shot on the Thor the Dark World DVD next month. And let's hope it's true."

So yeah, before you start accusing people of not reading things, maybe YOU should be sure you've read it in detail yourself.

CorndogBurglar - 2/13/2014, 5:19 AM
BaronZemo

Then he should have mentioned the leak in his article. I'm not on this site every minute of every day. I wasn't aware of any leak, and he sure doesn't say it in this article.

If you can go show me where his article mentions it leaking online, then I will apoologize. Until then, he shouldn't assume that everyone knows about it.
charlie2094 - 2/13/2014, 5:36 AM
@Corndog

Surely him even saying "If you've not seen..." "Do not read until you've seen the one-shot" was enough? Not to mention he talked in detail about what happened and clearly wasn't just specualtion...it's where the screenshot came from too...

Did make it quite obvious with the all CAPS do not read until stuff in the description? The whole description warns people against reading it
CorndogBurglar - 2/13/2014, 5:55 AM
@ Charlie

Yeah, he talked in detail about it......but then ended his article by saying this, "But in order to find out for sure that Marvel is reintroducing the Mandarin, be sure to check out the Marvel One Shot on the Thor the Dark World DVD next month. And let's hope it's true."

That last sentence pretty much throws everything he talked about into question, because he's pretty much saying, "But hey, all of this could turn out to be untrue."
Humby - 2/13/2014, 11:23 AM
The real Mandarin will definitely make an appearance in the next batch of Iron Man films, although I doubt we will see another Iron Man until Phase 4 (or later). At that point, Tony Stark will be recast Bond style, and the MCU will continue on.

By that time, Marvel will have greatly expanded their repertoire, and introducing the Mandarin as a magical or alien-tech-enhanced being (or however they choose to portray him) will no longer seem out of place.

Thor was a big risk, but with its relative success, it became a necessary anchor for the supernatural events in the MCU (hence making the Tesseract an Asgardian object). Marvel didn't want to push too hard in the supernatural direction, and put off fans of the young and relatively grounded MCU. So it made complete sense to relate the events of Captain America and the Avengers to the mythology of Thor's world. Marvel was then able to use the Avengers film to tease a cosmic element in the MCU. This process will start to grow immensely in the next 5 or 6 years, as they introduce more mythological elements, cosmic elements, and magical elements, etc.

The point of all of this, is that I hope Marvel is willing to take more chances with their enemies, especially the Mandarin. We've seen the business man trope plenty of times now, I want to see a Mandarin that is relatively true to his comic book past (although I don't mind if they tone down the racial stereotypes).

Give us a Mandarin that comes off as a supernatural, underground, historical figure. Hundred of years old, surviving and conquering off of alien technology and supernatural powers. I'm sick of tech vs tech and entrepreneur vs entrepreneur.
themidnightking - 2/13/2014, 1:31 PM
How the hell can the real Mandarin still be alive in 2014 when the Ten Rings dude said that he has been around since Medival times and purhaps even further back in time? Does that mean that he has indeed transended physical appearrence like Roger Wardell2 said?
NovaCorpsFan - 2/13/2014, 2:33 PM
Charlie

All I'm saying is that Pearce said nobody's apologising for the twist. Plus, this article is nothing more than yet another awful display from its author. I haven't seen the one-shot, but thanks for spoiling that. If the idea of a REAL Mandarin exists in the MCU, I don't really care. They'll use him if they want.
Wallymelon - 2/13/2014, 8:02 PM
????
dethpillow - 2/14/2014, 2:33 AM
what does Mandarin want, anyways? he's starting to annoy me a little bit.

why is he so sneaky?
dethpillow - 2/14/2014, 2:46 AM
@MidnightKing - yeah, it's either like Anno says, it's a title. which would be kind of a R'as al Ghul rip off, possibly depending on how they did it, but it's either that, or it's one ring just makes you live forever.

i don't know. i don't know what all the rings do. the rings are kind of stepping on the toes of Thanos tho with his glove and all the gems. i can't imagine them cramming those both together any time soon.

problem with Mandarin is that there's TEN rings. who has time to remember what all ten rings do? Thanos has 6 infinity gems. that's manageable. this one's for this... that one's for that.... six times. but 10 little powers? that's just too much. i think it's why the character of Mandarin never caught on. do you ever remember what he does with those rings? all 10 of them?

i always just remember him shooting bolts of energy out or using one for controlling other things. what are all 10 rings for?

bad character. he's ridiculous. the only good thing about Mandarin is that he doesn't wear armor. seriously that's the only big positive he has going in his favor, is no armor. cuz god knows we need to see Tony get into another fight with someone in armor. how they messed up the Killian fight is beyond me, that should've been great to watch, first time, Tony vs no armored guy. you know?
killian mandarin was so lame. i wonder what they were thinking about when they did that. i think since they messed up that one, first thing is... don't go back to armored guys to fight. no. go to a woman.

get Madame Masque, have Tony fight her. that would be interesting. i wanna see Madame Masque and Ghost for Iron Man IV. i think Iron Man III really showed how much contempt Shane Black has for the action movie genre. seriously. everything was great until he had to turn into an action movie, cuz it was leading up to a big finale, and Marvel said, "well Shane, it is an action movie, basically, yeah, you gotta have a big fight at the end... that's what action movies are..."

so Shane Black in his infinite wisdom just didn't give a [frick] at all. and he was like ok, fine, you want an action movie, here... here's how about this... and he just did whatever happened that day. it was probably RDJ and Guy Pearce throwing out all these ideas and him just going ok, yeah... that sounds good, yeah, do that.... i like that.

i think maybe this is the real story behind Iron Man 3. Shane Black just hates Action Movies with a passion. he's so sick of them, and it really shows. i don't blame him, actually. action movies are stupid.

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