RUMOR: New And Vital Details For THE AVENGERS Find Their Way Online?

According to somebody at the SHH! forums, he has been sent an email with information regarding Loki's mysterious army and much more. Curious? I bet you are, so hit the jump to take a look...

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By MovieMaster - 12/29/2011


We all know how erm, *reliable* the SHH! forums are, don't we...? Usually the things that leak from that site are completely fake and unbelievable. But occasionally you find something there that could actully be true. I came across this earlier today and thought to myself, "Huh, this might actully be true". It was posted by the user 'NolanLover' and he claims to have been sent an email regarding the project. As always, take the following with a grain of salt...

-The aliens are called The Redacted and are a new version of The Skrulls. Fox still own Skrulls so Marvel have changed them enough to not get sued. They're multicoloured and are shapeshifters.

-Thanos is in the movie. There were rumors some months ago that Loki would do business with Thanos and they're true. Thanos is tricked by Loki in the movie. Basically, Loki has been collecting Infinity Gems and the Infinity Gauntlet, but tricks Thanos in to thinking that the Infinity Gauntlet is the most powerful. In return, Thanos gives him The Redacted.

-The Leviathan is an alien serpent given to Loki by Thanos as a part of the deal.

-Red Skull is in the movie. Loki meets him on his travels. They split the 6 Infinity Gems between them. Loki takes the Mind, Reality and Power gems and Red Skull takes the Soul, Time and Space gems.

-A lot of The Avengers was shot in secret. These are where Red Skull's scenes were filmed.

-The Redacted are Loki's army. HYDRA are Red Skull's army.

-The Redacted discover that Loki tricked their master, and betray him. Hence Loki seemingly being on The Avengers side in some set photos.

-The French trailer descriptions floating around the web are TRUE

-Lastly, in the email there was a detail being withheld. He said that if Marvel ever found out he leaked the following, he would never be hired again. It's bigger than everything he said before. He didn't tell me, although he gave me this hint:

"What happens when you piss off one of the most powerful beings in the universe?"


I have one thing to say. OMG EPIC! But seriously, if this is true then wow this movie will be something else! But is this the real deal, or the works of a fanboy with a huge imagination? Sound off in the usual place!

The Avengers 3D is released in the US May 4 2012



Source: SHH!
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Jolt17 - 12/29/2011, 6:00 AM
I'm not taking it. I believe Hugo Weaving has stated that he will not return for the role...so yeah, no. Unless it's another actor, but still, I don't want anyone to replace Weaving. Or whatever, but this doesn't sound right to me. Or I just don't want to see this in the movie. (Except for the Thanos part, probably.)
PaulRom - 12/29/2011, 6:17 AM
Eh, not buying most of it. The Thanos part/the army betraying Loki sound plausible, otherwise I don't think it's true. Red Skull being a main villain doesn't sound right (though I'd love a cameo or two), and 'Redacted'? Meh.
RunDTC - 12/29/2011, 6:19 AM
@Jolt17: if Weaving had said he was returning, he would then be harrassed if he was in The Avengers. or if he was serious, maybe he had a change of heart and (wisely) did not publicly announce it.
6of13 - 12/29/2011, 6:50 AM
This all sounds completely bogus.
ROBBEATZZZ - 12/29/2011, 7:13 AM
Sounds plauseable! WOW!!
NerdyGeek - 12/29/2011, 7:16 AM
I'm sick of these BULLSHIT rumors...

ROBBEATZZZ - 12/29/2011, 7:20 AM
Marvel Minimates Wave 45 (Specialty stores/comic shops)
- Captain America & Thor
- Iron Man MK7 & Hulk
- Nick Fury & REDACTED (exclusive)
- Maria Hill & REDACTED (exclusive)

Marvel Minimates - The Avengers (Toys “R” Us/toysrus.com)
- Captain America & Thor
- Iron Man MK7 & Hulk
- Hawkeye & Black Widow (exclusive)
- Loki & REDACTED (exclusive)

ROBBEATZZZ - 12/29/2011, 7:24 AM
^^^^ found this maybe true folks!..its the minimates description!!
Jolt17 - 12/29/2011, 7:25 AM
RunDTC: True, true. But so far I've never seen anything that secretive, so I don't think it is more likely than unlikely. Or that's just something I don't really want to see at the very first place. So...we'll see.
thanos83 - 12/29/2011, 7:37 AM
Hmm Fantastic if true,and just what is needed 2 set it apart from the previous marvel films,

i can see red skull in this,after all i dont just want loki and the skrulls for most of the film and then thanos showing up at the end 2 do something cool and then the movie ends,all were left with is the heros bikering,red skull and hydra being in this feels right,i might sound like this film is balancing 2many plates,but a live action avengers film needs this kind of scope
ThaMessenger07 - 12/29/2011, 7:42 AM
The Redacted name makes sense. The Skrulls are a Redacted version of a Very Powerful Lizard Creature from there home world. A redaction is generally a change in the terms of a contract. To me it sounds like a double meaning, a Redaction was made so they can use Skrull like character and Skrulls have been Redacted for the film. Plus the Toy list says Redacted.

The Serpent makes sense, It's a new take on the Midgard Serpent. The Red Skull stuff sounds like a little too much.

The Genes of the Lizard Creatures were split into 2 Species on that planet, Skrulls & Titan. It would only make sense that a Titan (Superior Version) Would lead the Skrulls or "Redacted"

I Just hope the Redacted are not an Amalgam of Skrulls & Kree. The Kree should remain unique and maintain there name.
thanos83 - 12/29/2011, 7:44 AM
I bet its true,it lines u nicley with what weav been hearing so far(i hope my intuition proves right my ratio is normally pretty good)it seemed kind weird no 2 include him in marvels "crown jewlel" after they got rid of red skull in Cap:TFA in such a ingenious way(teleported by the cube into the infinite of space and or possibly the nine realms
thanos83 - 12/29/2011, 7:48 AM
if the character economy works then including skull works
kevberg - 12/29/2011, 8:52 AM
Seems a tad much. lets look at this logically, ...Movie ticket sales are hitting the crapper and the sheer scope of what this guy is saying is beyond belief. I can't see Marvel spending THAT much on this.

I could very well be wrong , but the stuff with Red Skull seems to push it too much.
marvel72 - 12/29/2011, 9:19 AM
it might be true,i really just hope that thanos turns up & the avengers fight the hulk at some point.
Loki666 - 12/29/2011, 10:03 AM
Maybe parts of it are right. Very little of it. But they wouldn't have Loki and Red Skull each carrying 3 gems this early on and then have Thanos step in. It also says Loki's been collecting the gems but they were already together... Too much else has to happen in the movie for Thanos to be much more than a cameo supplying the army and then being "kept busy" due to Loki's trickery.

If the gems/gauntlet do feature and they get split up by Loki through use of the space gem, then I don't think we'll really find out too much about where Loki sent the others. That way Thanos doesn't know exactly where they are either and is on a wild goose chase the whole movie while Loki attempts to takeover and fortify earth in preparation to use Hydra and Thanos's own army against him when he finally arrives.

I think he's got his gems wrong and the ones that will factor into this story are the mind, space, and power gem. With the other three being seemingly thrust to the far edges of the universe for Thanos to labor after.
Gerrit - 12/29/2011, 11:15 AM
I hope its not true. Every rumor in this e-mail is so stupid! I would leave the theater so disappointed and pissed of if they were true.
DCMarvelFreshman - 12/29/2011, 12:01 PM
Fake! They got "Redacted" from the minimates descriptions, which in publishing means they're just keeping the name secret. And the things that's most plausible about this was formed from old plausible rumors.

The aliens are NOT skrulls. Marvel Studios owns Skrulls; Fox owns Super Skrulls. They wouldn't have to change a thing to use them.

Nice try though.

superotherside - 12/29/2011, 12:39 PM
Doubt it. Still an interesting rumor. Good find MovieMaster. ;)
CraptainAmerica - 12/29/2011, 1:03 PM
As awesome as The Red Skull and Thanos' involvement sounds...I echo DCMarvel's statement
LMB10 - 12/29/2011, 1:07 PM
I was going to post that the 'Redacted' is from teh Minimates description, but DCMarvelFreshman beat me to it.

Sad that the Skrulls won't be in it though, they'd have made great villains. Here's hoping for the Kree.
stumbleMaster57 - 12/29/2011, 11:42 PM
Damn this movie will kick ass, even if this isn't true. Thats insane if they keep that secret all this time.
stumbleMaster57 - 12/30/2011, 12:04 AM
I totally think the red skull thing is completely plausible, especially after seeing that heroclix thing.
djohnpi - 12/30/2011, 7:05 AM
I am not buying it ,very intresting but not buying it.
Helena - 12/31/2011, 6:33 AM
THE REDACTED! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHAAHHAHA!

Oh, man... This is the funniest thing I've read in this site this month. Whew... Never change, CBM.
Helena - 12/31/2011, 12:01 PM
It's not awful, it's dumb. Redacted means it's omitted, not the name of the enemies. The Redacted...

I do however believe that if the aliens/whatever they are use any portal to get to Earth, Red Skull might be among that army and take a chance to hide and reorganize Hydra. Who I doubt would aid an invading alien force, Skull wants to rule Earth not be some dirty alien's pawn.
tazmaniak - 12/31/2011, 1:41 PM
That's BS about the Skrulls being owned by Fox.Kevin Feige has already stated The Skrulls are owned by Marvel and were never a part of The Fantastic Four rights held by Fox.

On the other hand, the part about "The Redacted", may be true.I do recall Feige saying something about the villains being familiar, but they me be going by a different name.
laughterman26 - 12/31/2011, 7:49 PM
oh my dear lord.if this is true and all these events occur this movie will be pure epicness with a side serving of kickass and finish it of with the desert: massive space battles with insane explosions

I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO IT
thalidomide - 1/1/2012, 10:19 AM
I prefer DCMarvelFreshman when it comes to Avengers news/rumors so since he said it's fake then it is fake :)
DioFoRio - 1/1/2012, 6:16 PM
now...I didn't read all the posts sooooo someone may have already said this but..here goes...I didn't bother to read past the first line. The aliens will be called "the redacted" lol. apparently the author doesn't know the meaning of redacted.
DioFoRio - 1/1/2012, 6:22 PM
HAHAHAAHAH! Just read the whole thing....this dude KEEPS calling them "The Redacted"..lol hahahahahaha. I hope the dude who wrote this was 10...
Mrcool210 - 1/1/2012, 9:54 PM
thats way too much for one movie, so i dont buy it
Jefferys - 1/2/2012, 3:33 AM
Redaction is a form of editing in which multiple source texts are combined (redacted) and subjected to minor alteration to make them into a single work.
~ Wikipedia


From what Wikipedia says, I'm 100% sure that 'Redacted' is not what they'll be called since A) it sounds incredibly lame and B) Doesn't sound very threatening.

And from what tazmaniak quote from Kevin Feige about the villains being familiar, but they me be going by a different name. 'Redacted' sounds very much like a codeword.
nordberg - 1/2/2012, 10:43 AM
"The Redacted." Hehe.

Even funnier than the source's ignorance is the fact that it took 10 or so posts perpetuating the stupidity before someone actually pointed out the error.

Classic Fail.
jessepostal - 1/2/2012, 12:10 PM
Some of your senses of humor are fail, keeping my fingers crossed for red skull!!!
comicoverlord - 1/3/2012, 1:40 AM
Sorry MovieMaster, you are going through the ringer for this one. But next time you'll know and that's like 30% of the battle, or something. BUT, if you read this email and wrote the article based on that, you have every right to write up the article and post it. Keep at it!

But, hey, you posted in rumor. Right place for it.
WinterSoldier24 - 1/7/2012, 5:06 PM
I like the part where he wrote the article and thought he was on to something. . .

=P
scarecrow007 - 1/15/2012, 6:09 AM
I'll belive it when I see the movie!
PHOENIXTAYLOR - 2/13/2012, 12:10 AM
THE REAL STORY::::::
this is from one of the game programers, obviously name kept secret.

*ALPHA CENTAURI

*make a deal with loki to steal earths water after their planets water evaporates. they build a huge space fleet and promise loki a war in exchange for the water.

*come to earth through the portal to the nine realms, we have already seen Iron Man flying up into it as ships are flying out and a tracker beam is sucking up our oceans!

*the scenes of the team fighting itself, THAT IS LOKI! duh! I have not been told if the aliens are shape shifters...

*and yes... LEVIATHAN is in the movie.

according to the Marvel Encyclopedia this is all 100% backed up. The Alpha Centauri also have 5 fingers and 3 toes... IDENTICAL to the alien races we have seen in the trailers. And there is a chance that Leviathan is just protecting his water habitat from them, fighting back "leveling the playing field" because they are fighting an enemy when they are "out gunned".

that is that. its brilliant. Its a great first movie. I dont know about Thanos. I def. have not heard $hit about the red skull. and this RUMOR is completely dog crap!
JredTheRed - 2/21/2012, 11:28 PM
The aliens will be the skrulls. Redacted is just the cover name and Fox does not own the rights to the skrulls if that were the case they wouldnt have been able to use them in the cartoon Avengers: Earths Mightiest Heroes. They did and that is done by Marvel not Fox.

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