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AwesomePromoz
AwesomePromoz - 6/6/2014, 4:51 PM
I agree as regards the MCU. However, i want to see the film, even if it's a slightly bastardized version of Wright's vision. His Cornetto properties are way better than his IP-driven stuff anyway!
AwesomePromoz
AwesomePromoz - 6/6/2014, 5:32 PM
I'm suggesting hiring and in-house director with experience at Marvel Studios, not a [frick]ing idiot like Ratner!
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 6/6/2014, 5:59 PM
I keep saying this: just scrap it.
RextheKing
RextheKing - 6/6/2014, 6:04 PM
@Soto the problem with Fox is that they don't have all the time in the world to get these films out like Marvel does. They wait too long then the rights go back to MS. Ant Man has been in development for 8 years and as said in the article the script belongs to Marvel so they don't have to start from scratch and spit the film out on the original release date.
AwesomePromoz
AwesomePromoz - 6/6/2014, 6:10 PM
@Soto - I also said "like Ratner" so you are the one guilty of poor comprehension. try again.
NovaCorpsFan
NovaCorpsFan - 6/6/2014, 6:21 PM
I agree with Lhornbk.
AwesomePromoz
AwesomePromoz - 6/6/2014, 7:10 PM
I named two verified in-house personnel that have directed One-shots for Marvel. Louis D'esposito is the co-president of Marvel Studios and has directed two shorts for them, both of which spawned ABC television series. Pearce has a permanent relationship with the studio, written or worked on several of Marvel's movies, and directed its most recent One-shot. Learn to read, then read the article, and do some of your own research. You're a cool guy, I liked your anti-Rothman editorial, so don't be a wiener here.
AwesomePromoz
AwesomePromoz - 6/6/2014, 7:14 PM
Drew Pearce has worked with Sir Ben Kingsley and Sam Rockwell: nobody eats him for lunch or otherwise.
AwesomePromoz
AwesomePromoz - 6/6/2014, 7:31 PM
I like what you're saying now but you're not convincing me it's the same situation. That's whyvi cited the pre-vis. The movie is already directed in that sense, they leave nothing to chance. Of course the live footage needs to be shot but that's why these directors are what they are. They are capable of detecting nuance and tension and momentum. The rest of the team at marvel have been preparing this movie painstakingly for years. It's not a little indie picture you shoot on the cheap then fix later in post. A decent director, and Pearce is that, can handle this assignment. What they mustn't do, and this where you and I agree, is wedge some other guy who is apt to mistake this for a project of his own. Ratner is a true hack, a director of VH1 fashion videos. Marvel has better filmmakers as interns.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 6/6/2014, 11:53 PM
As most people are saying i do not want to see a disaster of a film, i want to see a good entertaining film. I don't think Marvel Studio's has made a terrible film yet but do i think that Ant-Man could be? I mean i have a feeling Marvel Studio's could be worried that comic book fans would be angered by the fact that Hank Pym will be older and working in the 60's and that the film will be focused on Scott Lang. That's just my take on it even though it may sound silly but i remember when comic book fans where outraged when IM3 came out and about the whole Mandarin debacle.

I think it would be cool if Ant-Man or Hank Pym where to be introduced in Age of Ultron. I've read time travel could be involved with the film due to the fact that there have been scenes between Captain America and Peggy Carter(even though it could be a flashback), have Hank Pym be shown and get the audience interested in his character in order for the audience wanting to see more.
AwesomePromoz
AwesomePromoz - 6/7/2014, 3:45 AM
@Soto - I still find what you're saying compelling, but I don't think you can prove any of it.

Surely a revision is a far cry from a square one rewrite. There's no way they could do that. All the action set pieces would be planned out for months by now, you suppose they are just going to keep them and slip them into a completely rehashed plot? Someone above questioned whether Marvel was sticking with Michael Douglas, well there's an interview on this site with him and he doesn't say anything about being fired.

I'm not sure if we fully understand the X-Men 3 situation -- how much was in place? People have been raving about X-Men Days of Future Past because it ret-conned X3 and Wolverine Origins out of the series, but if Ratner just shot the storyboards then that saddles Matthew Vaughn with the blame for being a shit movie, not Ratner. So how do we then praise Vaughn for First Class, when it was his process that [frick]ed up X3? I hated First Class as much as I hated X3, but I'm in the minority there.

Your understanding of the filmmaking process seems a little flawed. I'm a director myself, so I respect the craft we are talking about. Saying Pearce and D-esposito are unqualified is not correct, I already cited the number of projects they have completed which go beyond just the One-shots, so quit myopically referring to the One-shots as their only credits and go to IMDb and check it out yourself. They are qualified, and if not available then that's too bad. This is an Editorial.

Back to your flawed perception of the filmmaking process. I never said the director presses record and that's that - that's a ridiculous ad homimen argument you've tried to stick me with but I reject it, sorry I'm not that dumb.

To be precise, it's the cameraman who presses record, the first AD who shouts "action" and the director gives instructions to the cast and the first AD. That's how it works, so don't be silly by simplifying the process by claiming I believe he should just press record.

No I'm saying this director can wok with the script he's given, shoot the practical photography, take it into editing (which has already started btw, I'd guess up to 50% of the film is already there in the fork of animatics) and see what needs to be re-shot or taken into pickups. The gigantic action scenes are often shot by the Second Unit director or Effects Coordinator anyway so the director can focus on the character work. It's not an auteur piece, that's what I've been saying all along. Anyway, respectfully agree to disagree; please keep leaving your comments here, this is fun!
AwesomePromoz
AwesomePromoz - 6/7/2014, 3:55 AM
@dethpillow a quick correction here: Drew Goddard (writer/director of Cabin in the Woods) is the guy that left Daredevil. He would be awesome but I wouldn't recommend him for the Ant Man assignment because he is an auteur director like Joss Whedon who takes total control of a project. He would be the same as Wright in that regard.

Drew Pearce and Louis D'esposito have experience in film and Tv as well, so they would understand the process of stepping into an established production and getting the main practical work done while the effects and other sequences are created independently. Another TV director who came onto a production for Marvel was Alan Taylor, who replaced Patti Jenkins, and its my perception that despite its flawed story, Thor 2 was the best directed installment of the MCU to this point. All the action sequences in that made sense and told the story, not just blurry "kick this and punch that" closeups and handheld stuff.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 6/7/2014, 8:01 AM
Test footage:( my most ANTciptated film for 2016 is now my least:( I was so excited
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 6/7/2014, 9:23 AM
@Dellamort but Peyton Reed has no special effects background...
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