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Michael Caine: "There is no Johnny Depp in this Batman"

Micael Caine has revealed that production on the next Batman film is not that far along, but Depp won't be playing the Riddler.


"There is nobody, there's no script, there's nothing," Caine, who played Alfred in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, told MTV News of the status of the next Batman movie. "It can't possibly be made before 2011 because Inception is such a big picture."

"They won't tell me anything because I said this before," laughed Caine of the no-tell policy surrounding him after last year's Depp/Hoffman story. However, he did drop this little bit of information regarding the rumour that Johnny Depp would star in the sequel to 2008's 'The Dark Knight'.

"Johnny Depp is great in anything, but there is no Johnny Depp in this Batman. They tell me in no uncertain terms."
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83 Comments

First! And I want Batman now!
IronMarvel - 9/21/2009, 4:37 PM
There certainly is nothing, and there will probably be nothing for a few years....
TheUnknown - 9/21/2009, 4:42 PM
Didnt Cain say aload of stuff before that wasnt true.....you know dimensia is rising in the older generation..lol

wait till Nolan finds out...


teabag - 9/21/2009, 4:44 PM
teabag@ not sure where you get the pics from but keep them coming man.
mounted88 - 9/21/2009, 5:19 PM
I wasn't for JD anyway. Black Mask Talia and Hugo Strange.
StrangemannX09 - 9/21/2009, 5:21 PM
I hope Caine is right, I don't want Depp as Riddler.

Get David Tennant or Michael C. Hall, Nolan!
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/21/2009, 5:25 PM
I think they use cain to sew disinformation, he's given nothing but rumors and so far they've all been false.
thwhtGuardian - 9/21/2009, 5:28 PM
"there is no johnny depp in this batman"

well thats what the paper said!!!
Duhdaduh - 9/21/2009, 5:34 PM
I think Michael C. Hall would be the best for the riddler, i never was really a fan of Depp for it.
Watchtower31 - 9/21/2009, 5:35 PM
@InTylerWeTrust82: I agree, even though I think Johnny Depp would do a pretty good job because, he's today's "weird" actor like Jim Carey was the 90's "weird", it's better to cast someone you would never expect. Everyone gave many opinions on who should play the Joker for The Dark Knight, then when Chis Nolan anounced Heath everyone was like: "No way, this guy can't pull it off". But he did, he did better than anyone would have hoped he could. Conclusion: Cris should cast an unexpected for Riddler(which he probably will)
airbeyonder18 - 9/21/2009, 5:35 PM
airbeyonder: Yeah, I do think Depp would be good as Riddler. I just don't think "Perfect" with him as much as I do for Tennant or Hall.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/21/2009, 5:38 PM
Hopefully that means there will be no [frick]ing Riddler and we will be spared either A) A poor man's Joker like he is in the comics. Or B) A "Nolanized" serial killing, clue giving Riddler like we have all seen in the Saw movies and countless others before them. Because no matter what version or reinvention Nolan uses, there is no getting away from the fact that the Riddler SUCKS.

Next villain needs to be Catwoman and/or Deadshot.
Rorschach01 - 9/21/2009, 5:42 PM
We'll be lucky to get this movie by 2013. Of course we'll all be dead after 2012 so we'll never get to see a third batman.:(
superdog - 9/21/2009, 5:46 PM
meh, catwoman would be sexy as hell but also dumb as hell
Duhdaduh - 9/21/2009, 5:47 PM
I've already accepted the fact that Batman 3 will be a fan-failure.
BryEL - 9/21/2009, 5:54 PM
Michael C. Hall as Riddler!
MidKnight35 - 9/21/2009, 5:59 PM
Ledger was an unknown in terms of playing the joker, but still a pretty well known actor in films in general. I think Hall would be a good fit, but if they do a riddler story, I'd be surprised if he was cast as he isn't well known enough. They are more likely to cast a well known actor you wouldn't expect, rather than a lesser known actor who we think would fit well. Batman is a huge franchise, and so will demand big names.
samd577 - 9/21/2009, 6:09 PM
True
superdog - 9/21/2009, 6:13 PM
I think Michael Cane just gets bored and figures it would be a good laugh to make up some stuff about Batman 3 and see what happens.
DylansMyDog - 9/21/2009, 6:19 PM
EVERYONE WANTS JOHNNY DEPP IN IT AS RIDDLER..EVERYONE..ITS GONNA HAPPEN BECAUSE STUDIOS WANT MONEY..THERES A DEMAND.
GUNSMITH - 9/21/2009, 6:20 PM
WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE...JOHNNY DEPP AS THE RIDDLER, JOESEPH GORDON LEVITT AS THE JOKER, NOT ONLY ARE THEY BOTH AFTER BATMAN, THEY ARE AT ODDS WITH EACH OTHER TRYING TO TOP THE OTHER...
GUNSMITH - 9/21/2009, 6:25 PM
BANE.
A MOB BOSS-TYPE PENGUIN.
DEADSHOT.
texasboy - 9/21/2009, 6:29 PM
riddler sucks. he shouldn't be in the next one. i'd be happy with just about any other villain that isn't the riddler or the penguin. those are two of the dumbest villains batman has.
CorndogBurglar - 9/21/2009, 6:45 PM
@ gunsmith

what do you mean EVERYONE wants riddler?? most people just think its the next logical villain to put in.
CorndogBurglar - 9/21/2009, 6:46 PM
Amen CDB. Anyone that has ever read a Batman comic knows that the Riddler is [frick]ing useless. Even the Riddler thinks The Riddler is useless! In Hush the only way he can get to Bats is by playing on the fact that nobody thinks hes a threat to anyone!

If they use the classic Riddler we will have clues left which Bats must solve and use his detective skills to track down the evil mastermind! YAAAAAAWN. I don't want to watch a [frick]ing game of sodoku for 2 hrs thank you very much.

Or, they could reinvent him as a much more dangerous serial killer who leaves clues which Bats must use his detective skills to follow. YAAAAWWWWWWN. Seen it in Saw, seen it in 7, seen it in Zodiac..its been done to death.

Rorschach01 - 9/21/2009, 6:53 PM
"There is no Johnny Depp in this Batman"
Weiner123 - 9/21/2009, 7:00 PM
Ror@ I agree aboutte riddler but I do want to see more detective stuff. He's not called theworlds greatest detective for nohting. Yet in the Nolan movies he doesn't do any detecting. Maybe not the riddler but somebody who can challenge him not just physically but mentally as well. And the joker didn't challenge him mentally, philosophically but not mentally. Look at all the detective shit in the arkham asylum video game. Let's adopt some of that shit.
superdog - 9/21/2009, 7:08 PM
As great as films like Zodiac and Se7en are, im not all that keen on seeing The Riddler in the next Batman film...i woul much prefer a villain that we can see Batman go toe to toe with in a full on fight - Killer Croc or Bane (even though the character was handled dreadfully in Batman and Robin) are two villains that with Nolan's take on them could end up being pretty amazing!
joshw24 - 9/21/2009, 7:31 PM
Well, he did that one bit with the fingerprints on the bullet in TDK!

Catwoman is the best choice. She can go toe to toe, mess with his head too while she seduces him. She has some great storylines in the comics. They should make her a prostitute that is sick of being beaten up and turns vigilante. We would probably need a truly evil second villain though so Deadshot or Black Mask could work.
Rorschach01 - 9/21/2009, 7:48 PM
I AGREE SUPERDOG-BUT LOOK AT IT IN THIS WAY...ITS A JOURNEY, TRUE BATCAVE HASNT BEEN SEEN YET, HE'S NOT CALLING IT THE BATMOBILE YET, ITS AN ESCALLATION TO THE BATMAN WE SEE IN THE COMICS, A JOURNEY...DETECTIVE STUFF, MAYBE THE RIDDLER MAKES HIM THAT DETECTIVE...
GUNSMITH - 9/21/2009, 7:52 PM
Gunsmith@ Could be. But there's never any mention in begins of him developing detective skills. Mostly fighting skills and learning the ways of the crimnal. But nothing to suggest that the guy has a genius mind worthy of being the worlds greatest detective.

Ror@ true, but that wasn't much. It's just not somethig Nolan has any interest in developing. He's more concerned with the social reasons for the batman and the societal impact of him and the villians. Which is ok by me. And i prefer the traditional catburglar catwoman. But that's probably not "dark" enough for Nolan.
superdog - 9/21/2009, 8:05 PM
doesnt mean he wont be in it.. just not yet
fotc - 9/21/2009, 8:06 PM
I think they should have Rupert Thorne fill the void as Gotham's new crime boss. Vicki Vale as the new love interest. Hugo Strange the new criminal pyschologist at Arkham with much more sinister plans. He finds out Batman's identity and sells it to the highest bidder, Rupert Thorne. Thorne hires Deadshot to take out Bats. Great storyline from the 80s, very adaptable to Nolan's Universe.
MidKnight35 - 9/21/2009, 8:14 PM
I agree with both superdog and GUNSMITH I think they should do something like Long Halloween and use some of the detective aspects from Arkham Asylum. And also I think Michael C. Hall would make a good Riddler too.
DonkeyPuncher - 9/21/2009, 8:28 PM
things will be more certain when this movie goes into production.
supermarioworldE - 9/21/2009, 8:30 PM
I think they should bring in Black Mask as the new mob boss. With Bats as a fugitive, he has risen greatly in profits and is top dog in Gotham.

Meanwhile, on the Cops side, the police department brings in, against Gordon's wishes (since he doesn't want Bats to be captured), Edward Nigma, an "expert" in his field, who they believe has the brainpower and skills necessary to capture the Bat. He is shown as already having a fascination/obsession with the Batman, and it only grows deeper as he studies him and tries to actually take him on.

Back on the mob side, Bats is up to his old ways again, causing a hefty amount of trouble for Black Mask and his profits begin declining. Desperate, B. Mask hires an assassin/mercenary named Deadshot to take Bats out, and Gordon as well. Bats fights Deadshot before he can take out Gordon, and he is sent to prison.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/21/2009, 8:36 PM
Out of all the super villians in Batman's universe, its incredible that noone has a definite solution to who the main villian should be. I mean I've heard of a few choices such as Catwoman, Bane, Deadshot etc. but none of them would work by themselve as a true threat to Bats. Catwoman would be great but Im afraid there would be a conflict of intrest on Bats part and besides he cant beat her up like he would The Joker. Bane, would also be an interesting character but which Bane would they use. The really dumb, henchman type or the developer of the venom toxin which would suggest he has some brain cells. Deadshot would have to be a hired gun because, well thats what he is. Im thinking maybe an ensemble of villians would make for a more engaging story. But then again that would require alot for even Batman to deal with. Either way I dont think a new Bat film will be coming around the corner anytime soon. Seeing how the first 2 films were shrouded in the realm of reality, it will be difficult to introduce a villian with enough character to hold his own against Batman at the same time be intresting enough that we arent, as Rorschach01 has said, be bored out of our minds watching Bats solve clues and put puzzles together. Im sure Nolan and his team of writers will come up with something dazzling, I just dont expect it anytime soon.
ColdStone - 9/21/2009, 8:40 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
angry Pictures, Images and Photos Well Meh, It could still happen so...

I still think BB is better than TDK! Sorry...

Dead Shot and Black Mask would be a horrible addition @Tyler!!!!
Minotauro - 9/21/2009, 8:40 PM
Exactly why would they be horrible?

One is a bad ass, cunning, and extremely dangerous assassin.

The other is an intimidating, intelligent crime boss.

What is horrible about them?
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/21/2009, 8:45 PM
Minotauro- why don't you like tdk?
supermarioworldE - 9/21/2009, 8:53 PM
Nothing at all, i would be happy with either of them..but you need some Cat action too!
Rorschach01 - 9/21/2009, 8:56 PM
What's horrible about them is a majority of the nation doesn't know nothing about them ;)(I could be wrong cause I don't know that much about Batman, but I do know him too an extent!!)

They do sound like some stunning additions, but I would prefer the horror in the K.Croc, or Bane, or Mad H., or yes....The Two-Face!! >:D
Minotauro - 9/21/2009, 8:59 PM
@supermario - I honestly can't lie..I believe TDK is a bit overrated after looking up it's place in history in the top 250 movies of all time! (#8 on the list) And saying it is also the best crime movie over the Godfathers is pushing it...
Minotauro - 9/21/2009, 9:03 PM
I would say a majority of the nation didn't know who Ra's Al Ghul was, but that turned out fine, and you liked Begins more than TDK, which had lesser known villains and TDK had one of the most iconic villains of all time.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/21/2009, 9:04 PM
minotauro- yeah, saying tdk is better than the godfather is like saying Wall-E is better than Toy Story, it's insulting. I'll be honest, I love tdk, but when I first saw it I had my problems: 1. Rachael Dawes being such a b*tch (like Kirstin dunst in spiderman 3) 2. two-face being pushed into the last 20 min (just like venom in spiderman 3) 3. The joker taking control of an entire city, and no cop can stop him (which is ridiculous but cool) 4. That damn cookie monster voice!
Batman Begins was a strait, simple line, whereas, The Dark knight was a complex zigzag that was on a grander scale than what we would have expected. don't get me wrong, tdk was a masterpiece and imo the best movie of '08, but it did have its problems.

@tyler, sad but true, Ra's was definitely unknown to alot of people before begins came out

supermarioworldE - 9/21/2009, 9:25 PM
Thank God no Depp. That man has turned into a grade A weirdo. I feel I must wash everytime I see him.
Number21 - 9/21/2009, 9:29 PM
Ok first off, this comment of Caine's essentially means NOTHING at this point. And the studio probly got pretty upset with him before for basically confirming that Depp would be in it. The guy's a highly respected class act, but he can still get slapped around by the studios for saying anything his contract doesn't allow him to say - which I'm sure applies to his original statement about "Depp being in".

A little trivia about Caine - if he didn't make it in acting by the time he turned 30 he was gonna quit. Got the call for his first gig on his 30th birthday.

As far as comparing Jim Carey to Johnny Depp - you just can't reasonably do it. Carey was/is a complete slapstick actor (as was his Riddler). The only serious roles he's had is The Majestic and Number 21, maybe there are a couple more, but not many. Depp is a COMPLETELY different kind of actor, and the characters he comes up with cover a much greater spectrum. If you look at the crazy range in originality of his previous characters, you realize he's probly capable of crafting something in between those we haven't seen yet. Much darker, albeit often whimsical, than Carey.

Depp has, amongst todays actors, arguably one of the best senses of "what the role needs". He would know how to do it, and it'd be a challenge to him that way.

Not just some zany escaped jack in the box in full body spandex with glow in the dark question marks on his junk.

And Rorshach, now I've only seen Saw I and II - I hate the movies, and if the other 4 are just more of the same, that's nothing like the Zodiac. Zodiac is/was a REAL LIVE criminal mastermind, arguably a highly highly intellectual criminal genious, who used EXTREMELY complex puzzles and riddles that pulled from almost every element of the science (at that time) of cryptography - two of which have yet to be solved after nearly 40 years (or he faked those last two, but even to do that broke his pattern, and was another genious thing to do at that point in the investigation).

If you've read the book, and seen the movie, and dug deeper into the case and seen some of the theories about the pattern he may have actually using (there are theories that he was killing in quadrants - using a mathematical formula, referencing historical events, and using astrolgical patterns, etc., etc.). I mean the shit gets deep deep with this maniac. This is no Saw caricature - I mean there are moral and ethical reasons why maybe they shouldn't go that route anyway, but if they did and they did it right, it would be mind blowing period.

Aside from all that, if Inception is any good, and Dicaprio gets in close with Nolan, I'd expect to see him in B3 as a main role. We know how he likes to work with the same crowd.

I like alot of what you guys have said about Black Mask - would like to see that done. And I know I just keep repeating all this stuff, but I'd like to see Deadshot in there too. I'm totally in with Tyler on this stuff, aside from Depp.

oh yeah... Stealth Bomber for the Batwing! lol =P



48and2 - 9/21/2009, 9:36 PM
Really though, in my opinion, if this comment of Caine's has any effect whatsoever it just took the possibility of Depp playing the Riddler from 50/50 to 49/51. Call me crazy, but Depp being out of Pirates 4, and him essentially playing Heath Ledger in Imaginarium is synchronicity hard at work. This is an actor, like DDL, who either does Burton or takes on tremendous challenges that play off his strengths. And if the Riddler isn't that, I don't know what is (aside from Strange). There is a tie to the franchise there with Burton too.

See the riddles are already falling into place hehe ;)

Truthfully, it's too early to know anything period whatsoever.
48and2 - 9/21/2009, 9:52 PM
It was made quite clear in TDK that the freaks were taking over in Gotham, and the traditional organized crime was all but destroyed. So then who better to step in than Black Mask?

Black Mask would be the perfect opportunity for him to move in and take over the organized crime of the city but he also qualifies as one of the "freaks". He's the perfect hybrid. Black Mask grew up around corporate greed. Coming to regard that lifestyle with disgust he murders his father and carves a mask from his coffin, wearing it as a symbol of people putting on that fake identity. He would target Batman, trying to kill him for that very reason because of the fake identity he believes that he's putting on for the public.

Having said that, we can't predict just who Nolan will use. You never know with him.

Catwoman would be a logical choice because Rachel is gone now, and Batman is a fugitive. He meets this cat burgler, a criminal by all accounts, and falls in love with her. He steps over his own rules, the line begins to blue when he gets involved with a criminal. It plays perfectly with the fact that Batman is looked at as a criminal by the city, and is being hunted down. Of course Catwoman wouldn't be the main threat.

There are other great villains that would be nice. but we have to consider Nolan's more realistic vision of Gotham when considering the main villain.

Personally I've been wanting Black Mask in it for years. Even before TDK was released, I was hoping Roman Sionis would be in that film.

Whatever Nolan does, I don't doubt it will be great and will blow me away. I had complete trust in Chris from the moment I watched the original Batman Begins teaser trailer.
sylon - 9/21/2009, 9:55 PM
It was made quite clear in TDK that the freaks were taking over in Gotham, and the traditional organized crime was all but destroyed. So then who better to step in than Black Mask?

Black Mask would be the perfect opportunity for him to move in and take over the organized crime of the city but he also qualifies as one of the "freaks". He's the perfect hybrid. Black Mask grew up around corporate greed. Coming to regard that lifestyle with disgust he murders his father and carves a mask from his coffin, wearing it as a symbol of people putting on that fake identity. He would target Batman, trying to kill him for that very reason because of the fake identity he believes that he's putting on for the public.

Having said that, we can't predict just who Nolan will use. You never know with him.

Catwoman would be a logical choice because Rachel is gone now, and Batman is a fugitive. He meets this cat burgler, a criminal by all accounts, and falls in love with her. He steps over his own rules, the line begins to blue when he gets involved with a criminal. It plays perfectly with the fact that Batman is looked at as a criminal by the city, and is being hunted down. Of course Catwoman wouldn't be the main threat.

There are other great villains that would be nice. but we have to consider Nolan's more realistic vision of Gotham when considering the main villain.

Personally I've been wanting Black Mask in it for years. Even before TDK was released, I was hoping Roman Sionis would be in that film.

Whatever Nolan does, I don't doubt it will be great and will blow me away. I had complete trust in Chris from the moment I watched the original Batman Begins teaser trailer.
sylon - 9/21/2009, 9:55 PM
Damn. I was looking forward to the possibility of Depp as the Riddler. He'd put an interesting spin on the character no doubt.
Shadowelfz - 9/21/2009, 10:03 PM
Killer crock something to rly test batmans strengh
KheshireKat - 9/22/2009, 1:45 AM
I cant beleive it!!! i agree with Minotauro!!!!
Also Superdog your right he is supposed to do some dam detecting.....id like to see a film that is situated within 24 hrs.....where we see Batman on the streets solving the crime plus bashing a few heads :)
teabag - 9/22/2009, 4:59 AM
CAINE IS FULL OF BULL SHITE!

Every interview is BS when its with him! ; D

Lmao!
LEEE777 - 9/22/2009, 5:11 AM
Exactly @ 48and2 @ TEABAG!!!

This article is BS too, BULL SH*T!!

BOOOOOOOOOOOO!

; D
LEEE777 - 9/22/2009, 5:13 AM
Trust me DEPPS in it!!! ; D

Who's gonna believe that Yoke after the all them last interviews with him lol.

LEEE777 - 9/22/2009, 7:05 AM
First of all, Nolan has made Batman out to be a PANZY!!! Oh what a ninja master this guy is, not even being able to overcome a gard dog... TWICE!!! In the second instance, he even saw them next to Joker with the cellphone wave emitter. And you guys want to see him fight a wrestler or even a croc monster??? First of all, how realistic would that be??? And you want a good yawn, well why not have yet a third mob film??? Now that's a freakin' YAWN!!! Riddler sucks when the writers do. A Zodiac killer film has been done, but not one that BATMAN has to deal with. Riddler is actually limitless in his potential. And Nolan has always focused more on his villains to begin with, so Riddler would be the perfect villain for his re-imagining. I mean, you can't say that because you didn't enjoy the character written by anybody else than Nolan in the past, that he would suck this time around. And with Depp giving Nolan's vision life, it would blow all our minds to smitherines! All i want is something DIFFERENT for the third film. If they don't use Riddler, than at least FORGET about organised crime or closet monsters. Delve into the human mind with Hugo Strange and a brand new vision of The Ventriloquist (played by Steve Buscemi of course ;).

If fighting or females are required, i say bring in Shiva!!!
Shaman - 9/22/2009, 8:00 AM
Ive said before they should do the 'PREY' storyline , it would fit in with the end of TDK and would introduce Hugo Strange and Catwoman.....:)
teabag - 9/22/2009, 8:15 AM
I have to agree @InTylerWeTrust82 ... Michael C. Hall would be amazing. He's such a versatile actor and has that dark humor about him that would serve The Riddler well... And please, God no, ....no Bane, PLEASE!
NerfHerder - 9/22/2009, 8:37 AM
I would be highly surprised if they brought in a villain that hasn't been used before in one of the batman films before the re-boot. With batman so big at the moment, I just dont think they will bring someone in that no-one except fan-boys will recognise. One of the villains from Batman Returns, Batman Forever or Batman and Robin will be chosen.
samd577 - 9/22/2009, 8:44 AM
I would be as surprised as i was with Batman Begins. Though the very fact that the same team is on board would make another surprise less surprising.
Shaman - 9/22/2009, 8:50 AM
Yeah, Depp is not in it...because I'M IN IT!
BLANK - 9/22/2009, 9:51 AM
@ BLANK: Haha, who do you think you are? Ryan Reynolds?
BmanHall - 9/22/2009, 10:10 AM
Blank can't be Ryan Reynolds cause Hal Jordan is!!! Wait... so's Wade Wilson... i smell sabotage. Ever notice that whenever sabotage occurs, Bea Arthur is nowhere to be found?!?!?!?! She's 6'3... 250 LBS... and always has that weird wig on!!! SHE'S THE REAL RYAN REYNOLDS!!!!!!
Shaman - 9/22/2009, 11:32 AM
thank god. Depp is in too much shit and should stick to Tim Burton movies.
l0rdleg0las - 9/22/2009, 11:57 AM
Am i the only guy here who gets a rise out of Helena Bonham Carter??? She was a steemer in Merlin ;P
Shaman - 9/22/2009, 12:15 PM
lol thank you michael caine, tho i couldnt wtch the video. I say thank god! Johnny Depp would not work as the riddler. Everyone would expect something wonderful but it would be the same person in a different movie... We need someone who will come out of left field. Like Daniel Radcliffe, Zack Efron, or Emile Hirsch. Some young guy who is actually a good actor but wants to pull off something epic.
theartofoneness - 9/22/2009, 12:25 PM
You can laugh all you want, but i'd love to see what Daniel Radcliffe would do with Riddler!
Shaman - 9/22/2009, 12:58 PM
"We need someone who will come out of left field. Like Daniel Radcliffe, Zack Efron, or Emile Hirsch. Some young guy who is actually a good actor but wants to pull off something epic."

...Zack Efron or Radcliffe for Riddler? Over Depp? Are you serious?
Shadowelfz - 9/22/2009, 12:59 PM
UUUUUGGGHHHHH





lol
teabag - 9/22/2009, 1:10 PM
Not over Depp LOL I'd just be "curious"... :P
Shaman - 9/22/2009, 1:16 PM
Don't mind if i do Shaman!

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO;)

The Riddler..riddles. He leaves clues, Batman solves them. Thats it. No thanks you
Rorschach01 - 9/22/2009, 1:39 PM
at this point just dig up Frank Gorshin.
texasboy - 9/22/2009, 1:40 PM
Ror- LOL :P Yeah i know that's the "concept" in a nuttshell LOL. But hey, you can't say that Nolan couldn't pull a magic trick on him! I've always felt that Catwoman was a bit corny, prostitute or not. But a Nolanified version would be interesting to see ;)
Shaman - 9/22/2009, 1:55 PM
ahhhhhhh... That's [frick]ing disgusting @Teabag!!

Shaman@ The Riddler would be a good choice and very interesting character!! I would like it if they through in the Mad.H, Two-Face, Catwomen, & Riddler(most of them could just be cameos to finish off the batman franchise with a bang!!)

Minotauro - 9/22/2009, 1:55 PM
Prostitute, Cat burglar, whatever. Point is shes an interesting character with some great stories to choose from. There is a dynamic with Bats that will make for great drama and action. I just cant see how a Nolanized Riddler could work. He would have to alter that character beyond all recognition to make him work so whats the point? Just choose a better character!
Rorschach01 - 9/22/2009, 2:34 PM
My dreams have been crushed! Shadowelfz how dare you say Zach Efron as the riddler, riddler is my favorite villian, Deep is a great actor, and he could have done a great job!!!
legder20 - 9/22/2009, 2:49 PM
Rorschach01 - You surprise me! You hate on the Riddler but suggest Black Mask?! He's nothing more than a poor man's Red Skull!! I HATE that character!

The Riddler would work if he were wreaking havoc interfering with Batman solving another crime! I don't think E.Nigma can carry an ENTIRE film, but I definitely think he needs to be in there! He's too much of a classic rogue to ignore! BTW, it would be more interesting if Batman COULD'NT solve the Riddles as he's still early into his career!

My idea for the third film is to have an epic story that plays out over two movies! Batman Begins and TDK were kind of a neat little package that tied together and the next two films can easily repeat that formula sucessfully!

What we need to see is Cobblepot as an arms dealer/smuggler, Nigma as a disgruntled ex-FBI operative TAKING CREDIT for murders throughout and outside of Gotham and Catwoman coming in at key moments to shake things up! Burton didn't exactly do the Penguin and Catwoman justice in Returns, so they desperately need to be revisited!!

It's painfully obvious to me that the next flick needs to be an ensemble, as Batman's origin is now out of the way, opening up room for more story and characters! Hell, TDK had Two-Face, the Joker, Scarecrow and numerous gangsters and crime families, so really it WAS an ensemble!!

Let's introduce Dick Grayson(not in costume) and have Deathstroke kill his parents! At the same time, Deadshot could be trying to kill Bats for interfering in Oz's operations. Deathstroke could then kill Deadshot for getting in his way once too often, thus setting off a gang war between the two assasins' respective employers!! Cut and print!

Thinking back to Begins, Nolan's imaginary sequences with the Scarecrow's fear gas demonstrate to me that Nolan isn't totally against using special effects!! This opens up the door for Bane, Man-Bat and Killer Croc for the fourth movie!
JonF - 9/22/2009, 5:19 PM
This is a tough call

I'm not a big fan of the riddler. But I also think Black Mask is totally over-rated as a villian. His origin is lame, a basic photo negative of the Bruce Wayne origin. His storyline would need a complete make-over... no pun intended. Deadshot makes sense, but not as a main villian. You need someone with a bit of cache.

Hmmmm.... very tough indeed.
BillyBlack - 9/22/2009, 5:52 PM
While I know this wouldn't work as a main villain, Killer Croc has always been one of my favorite Batman villains and I'd love to see him onscreen. Aside from that, as long as Penguin is nowhere to be found, I'm all for whatever they give us. Black Mask with a few hired thugs, like Croc and Deadshot would be nice.
TheMyth - 9/22/2009, 10:48 PM
I really hate the mob idea. The mob is turning ilke Nolan's Lex Luther. We've had enough. And that means IMO, that Thorne, Cobblepot, Black Mask shouldn't be in it and Two Face should stay dead. And i for one very much enjoy Croc, Bane, Catwoman and Man-Bat in comics and animated series but not in a movie let alone in the Nolanverse! The only one that would give me a slight amount of interest out of those is Catwoman but she'd also need a drastic makeover which doesn't give much more purpose than Riddler if we use that argument. For a third and let's not forget, FINAL act, they need something brilliant. Something we wouldn't expect. Hugo Strange must be brought in. And who better if not Joker than The Ventriloquist for a subject?
Shaman - 9/23/2009, 6:21 AM
Shaman - how is the Ventiloquist NOT the mob? Scarface leads his own gang!
JonF - 9/23/2009, 3:06 PM
TheMyth makes a very good point about the nolanverse lol as much as i like killer croc he doesn't belong in the nolanverse. His batmans focus on political and social values and i don't think killer croc pushes the relms of reality. I like the idea of black mask and what about Mr Freeze? Just an idea.
wellhung - 10/3/2009, 6:47 PM

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