SPOILERS: J.J. Abrams On Why 'Kylo Ren' Had To Do What He Did In STAR WARS: TFA

SPOILERS: J.J. Abrams On Why 'Kylo Ren' Had To Do What He Did In STAR WARS: TFA

It's difficult to word this without SPOILING something, but at one point in the movie Adam Driver's Kylo Ren does something that takes him from cool new villain to one of the most reviled characters in Star Wars history. Director J.J. Abrams explains why he feels it needed to happen.

By MarkCassidy - Dec 21, 2015 02:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: EW

Massive SPOILERS for Star Wars: The Force Awakens ahead.

A lot of us figured it would happen, but I don't think any of us were actually ready to witness it! In Star Wars: The Force Awakens, we say goodbye to one of the most iconic, enduring, and best-loved characters in cinema history when Han Solo is slain by his own son, Kylo "Ben Solo" Ren.

It was a devastating moment for Star Wars fans, but something director J.J. Abrams says he felt had to happen for the sake of character progression during a post-screening Q&A at the Writers Guild of America this weekend.


“Star Wars had the greatest villain in cinema history. So, how you bring a new villain into that world is a very tricky thing? We knew we needed to do something f—king bold. The only reason why Kylo Ren has any hope of being a worthy successor is because we lose one of the most beloved characters. Long before we had this title, the idea of The Force Awakens was that this would become the evolution of not just a hero, but a villain - and not a villain who was the finished, ready-made villain, but someone who was in process. As a father, as a friend to people who have children, I know what it’s like to see struggle, to be part of struggle. I know how painful it can be. I know how real it is. And this is, of course, an insane extrapolated version. It’s this massive tradeoff: how can we possibly do that!? But… if we hadn’t done that, the movie wouldn’t have any guts at all. It felt very dangerous.”


Abrams adds that actually witnessing the scene, and Han's dying gesture of tenderness towards his lost son was "chilling". “Seeing these two actors, they weren’t chewing up the scenery. They were just doing this thing in a way that, frankly, was disturbing," he tells EW. "To see Harrison reach out and touch Adam. I know this sounds stupid, but literally watching it, I forgot — I forgot that he wasn’t his son. He did it so beautifully.”

This won't make fans feel any better, but Solo wasn't always going to be killed off in the script, and Lawrence Kasdan says he had written one draft of the script in which the old space rogue reunites with Leia at the end of the movie. Dammit! There's more from Abrams and Kasdan at the link below.
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gmoney0505
gmoney0505 - 12/21/2015, 1:10 PM
I hear you trying to justify it. But it was poorly excuted, telegraphed, and no build up.
Lem1
Lem1 - 12/21/2015, 1:12 PM
Knew it was coming once those guys stepped onto that familiar-looking setting a la "I Am Your Father!"
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon - 12/21/2015, 1:17 PM
One of the best scenes in the movie. Who cares if it was telegraphed? It was executed in a instantly classic way.

Flarking spoiled fanboys. Go back and watch the prequels. You appreciate nothing.
sameoldthing
sameoldthing - 12/21/2015, 1:20 PM
The villains in Force Awakens are weak & basically poor imitations of what's come before.
Kylo is a bratty man child. A Vader wannabe.
Capt. Phasma..holy crap,that character was weak. Did nothing & tossed into the garbage. A Boba Fett basically.
Supreme Leader Snoke is a joke,had to rhyme that. The Emperor anyone?
The First Order commander,who knows what his name is..Tarkin knock-off. That clown really Nazi'd it up didn't he.
Only the Stormtroopers became tougher & one turned tail & became a good guy. Ugh.
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 12/21/2015, 1:28 PM
"Star Wars had the greatest villain in cinema history."

slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 12/21/2015, 2:40 PM
@gusto Yeah you dummy... Leia says bring our son back.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 12/21/2015, 2:40 PM
*SPOILER ALERT* ^^^^
Nickk
Nickk - 12/21/2015, 2:45 PM
@DrDoom wasn't brillant not when the whole crowd knows he was gonna die wants he started to take it back it was too obvious
dapug88
dapug88 - 12/21/2015, 2:47 PM
My only regret is that we will never see the original trinity of Luke, Han and leia reunited on screen again. Unless....... They somehow bring Han back! I'm not saying they will but I'm sure there's a way for them to retconn his death if they wanted to. And hey there owned by the same company that owns marvel so anything is possible.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 12/21/2015, 2:55 PM
the second snork said han was his dad i knew he was gonna kill him
kakinurmawth
kakinurmawth - 12/21/2015, 2:55 PM
saw it coming, but it was still great.

I liked how Kylo was "in the process." I dug that. Just wished they didn't make him seem so punk-ass while being in that process. I also liked how Kylo killing Han was him trying to prove to himself that he is dedicated to the Dark side.
kakinurmawth
kakinurmawth - 12/21/2015, 2:58 PM
his struggling with betraying Luke and his family and staying dedicated to Snoke and the Dark side was what made Kylo an interesting character.
marvel72
marvel72 - 12/21/2015, 2:58 PM
It was a great scene,Yeah you could see it coming a mile off but still great.Poor ole Chewie,one of the best duo's in cinema and now he is solo.
TheEpicJuicebox
TheEpicJuicebox - 12/21/2015, 3:00 PM
Such a good villain he did what Luke couldn't
Nickk
Nickk - 12/21/2015, 3:01 PM
@Nomis where you went to go see it at atlantic station saw it twice! at southlake
HavocPrime
HavocPrime - 12/21/2015, 3:03 PM
I knew it was coming when he stepped out on that cat walk, but [frick] me did it hit me hard when that lightsaber ignited. I hope Ren does not get a redemption arc, and goes out like an unredeemed son of a bitch that he is.

Saw it at the midnight and I have never heard an audience gasp before at a flick, was an incredible moment.
kakinurmawth
kakinurmawth - 12/21/2015, 3:04 PM
@craigferguson - lol it's Star Wars! ;)
thunderpun573
thunderpun573 - 12/21/2015, 3:05 PM
Wait, so is Kylo actually dead? I mean, he kinda has to be, because the planet exploded, but it just felt like there was so much character development left to be done. I would have much rather seen his character arc continue to evolve over the trilogy rather than see him die this early.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 12/21/2015, 3:07 PM
Ah, finally saw this.... Star Wars is back and that's a good thing, I wasn't really sold on Kylo Ren though....

@Nomis

You were spot on man, JJ played this really safe, I think he did a good job though. Looking forward to seeing where they take the story after this
kakinurmawth
kakinurmawth - 12/21/2015, 3:08 PM
thunderpun573 - yeah he better still be alive. If not that will cement him being one of the weakest villains ever. And before people start going "oh but you just were saying how he was so interesting" Interesting doesn't equal menacing or being a strong villain. It means I'm interested in the character.
kakinurmawth
kakinurmawth - 12/21/2015, 3:09 PM
@Rulk - "I knew Han wasn't coming back during Rey's rescue because Ben didn't come back during Leia's rescue."

lol
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