David Goyer Discusses MAN OF STEEL, JUSTICE LEAGUE & Chris Nolan's BATMAN Trilogy

Earlier today, David S. Goyer participated in a live chat on Reddit in which he discussed several comic book movies, such as: Man Of Steel, The Dark Knight Trilogy, Wonder Woman, and Justice League.

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During today's Reddit AMA with David S. Goyer, fans were able to ask the screenwriter questions about past, present and upcoming comic book movies. For the most part, Goyer, tried to dodge the Justice League questions but did relent for a bit and answered a few. Those answers just reiterated the importance of Man Of Steel's box office numbers as having an effect on Warner Bros. decision to move forward with JLA, while his other answer pertained to director Zack Snyder being more than capable of helming that responsibility.

Q: Does everyone involved with Man of Steel feel a lot of pressure because of all the hype surrounding it?
A: Sure, there's a ton of pressure surrounding Man of Steel. WB has a lot riding on it - not just the Superman franchise, but the future of DC movies. More importantly, I think Zack, myself, Henry -- we just really want to give the fans the Superman film they deserve. The kind of Superman film I dreamed about making since I saw the first Donner film. I HOPE people like it as much as we do. Knock on wood.

Q: Would you be interested in writing the justice league film?
A: As a fan I have loved your work ever since I found it watching the blade trilogy. I'm a teenager and I go to an arts high school for film and your screenwriting has been pivitol in different productions that I have been apart of.

Q: How was your experience working with Christopher Nolan and how does has that effected your future and do you plan on collaborating with him in the future?
A: Working with Chris was definitely one of the best experiences of my life. But also hard as ****. Chris is an exhausting taskmaster. He will push you until you scream. But Chris also works harder than anyone I know and he has an incredible work ethic. I've learned a lot from Chris. I definitely think he helped me grow as both a writer and a director. I'd love to work with Chris again. I'd work on adapting the phone book if he asked me to. Chris instills a lot of loyalty in the people he works with.

Q:Who would win in a fight between Batman and Blade?
A: Batman would kick the **** out of Blade. I mean, come on. Given a head start and some planning, Batman might even be able to take down Superman. Seriously, are you REALLY asking that question?????

Q: Do you feel like the tone of films based on comic books is changing and if so is that a good or a bad thing?
A: Yes, I think films are changing because of comicbooks. And yes, I think that...that's a good thing. It used to be that Hollywood have a very preconceived notion about what a comicbook film should be -- basically, the Dick Tracy film, with lots of primary colors. I'd like to think that Blade and Batman Begins helped change that. In a way, I think comicbook films are just catching up to where comicbooks have been for the last 20 or 30 years

Q: You've worked with both the Nolan brothers. do they have different creative styles? approaches? or are they more similar than different?
also...your work...it's good!

A: The Nolan brothers are very different. In part, I think, because Jonah grew up more "American". He's got an American accent, as opposed to Chris, who was older when they moved here. But they are both fantastic collaborators.

Q: Which DC Heroes would you like to make a movie about?
A: Wonder Woman would be cool.

Q: The Dark Knight Trilogy is my favorite trilogy out there. My question is, how early on did you and the Nolan Brothers know what direction you were going to go in with the movies? Was is all planned out or did you take it one movie at a time?
A: The Dark Knight trilogy was definitely taken one movie at a time. That's just the way Chris likes to work. We had no idea whether Batman Begins was going to be successful. And after the Dark Knight, because of Heath and a lot of things, we weren't sure we had another film in us. It took us a long time to come around to an idea that we felt was a worthy follow-up.

Q: Please help settle a debate....
Is Superman playing monkey in the middle here, or is it two consecutive punches in the same direction?

A: Two consecutive punches in the same direction. He's beating the $$%% out of someone.

Q: Why do you think a Wonder Woman movie hasn't happened yet? And if it did, who would you want to play her?
A: I think Wonder Woman is a very difficult character to crack. More difficult than Superman, who is also more difficult than Batman. Also, a lot of people in Hollywood believe that it's hard to do a big action movie with a female lead. I happen to disagree with that. But that tends to be the prevailing wisdom. Hopefully, that'll change in the next few years. Who should play here? No idea...

Q: 1)Was it difficult navigating from Demon Toys to Batman?
2)Who came up with “Die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”
3)What did characters like Joker and Bane look like in your head while you and the Nolan brothers were writing?

A: "Die a hero..." Man, no idea which one of us came up with that line. It was a LONG time ago and a lot of those specific moments tend to blur together. As for Bane and the Joker. The Joker was pretty much spot on. Bane was difficult. Always felt the character in the comics was great, but that the costume was ridiculous. I was impressed with the look that Chris came up with -- it was, frankly, a lot scarier than I'd imagined.

Q: Was John Byrne's Krypton an influence on your approach? Getting that vibe from some imagery and interviews. Miller, Loeb, and Brubaker were pretty key influences on the Dark Knight trilogy. What runs/stories would say are similar touchstones for Man of Steel?
A: Byrne's Krypton was definitely an influence, but not the only influence. Was also influenced by Alan Moore's stuff. All Star Superman. Geoff Johns' stuff. Even the old Curt Swan stuff.

Q: How long do you think you can dodge the JUSTICE LEAGUE questions? ;-)
A: Dude, I can dodge Justice League until the end of this AMA.

Q: The Dark Knight trilogy was amazing and im hoping Man of Steel blows us away even more so we can get that ****ing Justice League movie going!
A: In order for a Justice League film to happen, MOS has to be successful. That's up to you guys and about 80 million other people.

Q: Back during the Batman Begins days, you noted how you preferred Jake Gyllenhaal during the casting rounds. If you were to cast Bale's successor today, who would it be and why?
A: That's a hard question to answer -- it's impossible for me to think of Batman as anyone other than Bale at the moment. He approached the role with so much integrity and conviction.

Q: How would David Goyer do Green Lantern?
A: Better.

Q: Can we really trust Zach for a justice league movie?
A: Zack did an incredible job on MOS. Chris and I were both blown away by what he did. I am very proud to be associated with what he's come up with.

Thanks to SHH's Fake for the recap





Man Of Steel was directed by Zack Snyder, from a script written by Chris Nolan and David Goyer. The cast includes: Henry Cavill, Amy Adams, Russell Crowe, Ayelet Zurer, Kevin Costner, Diane Lane, Michael Shannon, Antje Traue, Chris Meloni, Harry Lennix, Laurence Fishburne, Julian Richings and Richard Schiff. Man Of Steel flies into theaters June 14th, 2013!

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MrCBM56 - 4/25/2013, 3:02 PM
Im sorry but Blade would beat the shit out of Batman. I hate the excuse of Batman planning ahead of time. And also in some of these questions his answers sound a bit arrogant. The dude is still a great and bad ass writer!
ManOfSteelUK - 4/25/2013, 3:02 PM
Possibly be the best question and answer thing I've seen on this website. JUICY
MrCBM56 - 4/25/2013, 3:24 PM
@Levi

If you don't mind me asking, why don't you like Hal Jordan? And also, what's your opinion on the Iron Man 3 twist if you know it?
Scooby - 4/25/2013, 3:25 PM
Goyer -

TheFox - 4/25/2013, 3:27 PM
"Batman would kick the **** out of Blade."

F%$# yeah!

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relentless1 - 4/25/2013, 3:28 PM
agree 100% on his take on bats vs blade
JatevinM - 4/25/2013, 3:28 PM
I don't want John Stewart used as the Green Lantern at least until a Justice League sequel. There are already dumbasses who think he is the real Green Lantern.
McGribble - 4/25/2013, 3:29 PM
If they do make JL movie they should go with Stewart for GL. I normally do not go for the politically correct stuff but it would be nice to have a hero other than a bunch of white people... I like Hal, but it is the perfect opportunity to add diversity to the team thus giving it a wider appeal. If not GL, then they need to have cyborg.
TheFox - 4/25/2013, 3:30 PM
Also, if David Goyer writes a Wonder Woman movie I WILL LOSE MY SH*T (in a good way).

Do it, Goyer... DO IT!

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StarlordX - 4/25/2013, 3:31 PM
I love how DC is only searching money of the possibilities That the Avengers left for them
CaptainObvious - 4/25/2013, 3:32 PM
Q: How would David Goyer do Green Lantern?
A: Better.

superherofan21 - 4/25/2013, 3:33 PM
Goyer could actually do GL justice.
Okay, he needs to do a GL sequel right now to right the wrongs of the first one. Warner Bros.: Do it.
TheFox - 4/25/2013, 3:33 PM
Seriously, Goyer should just be given the first shot at every major DC superhero. Worst case scenario, they rewrite from scratch-- best case scenario, DC finally has a good place to start from so they can crank out some good solo films!

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Ryden - 4/25/2013, 3:34 PM
I feel really sorry for that kid who is so inspired by Goyer's work as a screenwriter. The dude couldn't write realistic dialogue if he was dictating what happened around him.

Really Goyer is so lucky to have worked with great directors and a great cast otherwise people would see how poor his writing really was. DC need to hire somebody new, pronto.
MrCBM56 - 4/25/2013, 3:34 PM
@Levi

OK, got it. I sometimes feel i'm the only one on CBM who likes Green Lantern movie.

And you have the exact same reaction I have to the twist. I know die hard fan boys will be angry, but for me if it fits great to the story, it's ok for me.
MrCBM56 - 4/25/2013, 3:37 PM
I too hope that Man of Steel does great at the box office so we can get a Justice League movie. But WB better not rush it. I would rather have quality over quantity.
StarlordX - 4/25/2013, 3:38 PM
WB is only searching money, they dont care if the movie is garbage
Angelus - 4/25/2013, 3:40 PM
Please make Wonder Woman and Flash, and give Green Lantern the movie he deserves soooo much. My favorite superhero of all time is Hal Jordan and he deserves justice. JUSTICE I SAY!
Angelus - 4/25/2013, 3:41 PM
And MOS WILL BE AWESOMESAUCE!!!!!!!!!
ManCalledSting - 4/25/2013, 3:41 PM
It makes sense that a JL movie rests on the shoulders of MoS. If that flops, which I don't even think is possible, it'd be dumb to go onto JL. My pick for Bats is Karl Urban, his portrayal of Dredd could transition nicely to Batman with some tweaks...him or Matt Bomer(Jack Gyllenhall would be a horrid choice). I say ignore Ryan Reynolds as GL, and have John Stewart in JL(btw I love how in the part of the last couple episodes of GL:TAS Gardner got promoted and told Hal his replacement was John Stewart, and Hal responded "the fake news guy?"). I think it's going to be hard to make a great JL movie without doing the solo films first to build it up some character meeting character wise. Even though Snyder said he has hints towards other DC heroes in MoS, you can only hint and tease so much in one movie.
MrDonut - 4/25/2013, 3:44 PM
Lol his answer to the Green Lantern is just WIN!
I can defo see Snyder and Goyer taking reigns of the DC cinematic universe if Man of Steel is successful, here's hoping!
StarlordX - 4/25/2013, 3:45 PM
Why Dc or WB didnt try to make a JLA movie Before Avengers? Now they are like screw the character introductions, We want money
rocky - 4/25/2013, 3:45 PM
Wasn't the Joker kicking Batman's ass for a minute. Didn't Scarecrow get the drop on him?

Yeah I'm sorry to say it but by these film standards Blade would beat the shit out of Batman

And let's stop the insanity already, Superman would kill Batman....no contest
CeltiC527 - 4/25/2013, 3:46 PM
I can't [frick]ing stand John Stewart! He's so boring! HAL JORDAN or GTFO!
And bring back Reynolds as Hal and lets see what he can do with a good script.

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rocky - 4/25/2013, 3:47 PM
I too liked the Green Lantern film. Sure it wasn't great but I'd still fold that into the larger DC movie universe, I wouldn't start over or act like it didn't happen.

MOS FTW!
ManCalledSting - 4/25/2013, 3:48 PM
Rocky: Maybe in there first meeting Supes could kill him. But after learning of him, Bats would always be ready.
TheSuperguy - 4/25/2013, 3:49 PM
I wanna see a MOS trilogy like the Dark Knight trilogy. Also would be cool to see a Flash and Aquaman movie.
PapaII - 4/25/2013, 3:49 PM
"Always felt the character in the comics was great, but that the costume was ridiculous."

He's absolutely right! 100%
ManCalledSting - 4/25/2013, 3:51 PM
Sorry, but Ryan Reynolds sucked as Hal, and the whole movie sucked.
exe - 4/25/2013, 3:54 PM
Batman will kick anyone's ass.
Angelus - 4/25/2013, 3:57 PM
@CeltiC527 - Before I believed Reynolds deserved another shot but I feel now that WB/DC needs to distance themselves of that film. I think Hal Jordan is essential to Justice League because of Flash, which is probably going to be Barry Allen. Their friendship would be a great addition to the Bats/Supes relationship. And Hal Jordan is beyond awesome. I hope they will remake Green Lantern into the awesomeness he deserves!
GuardianAngel - 4/25/2013, 3:59 PM
@SuspenseSmith


"If Goyer and Joss Whedon co-wrote a movie... it'd be the best damn thing ever. Goyer's got the depth and story, Whedon's got the snappy dialogue. If only."

Stop it! I'm gonna cry at the thought that it might never happen.
GuardianAngel - 4/25/2013, 4:02 PM
I really don't understand the answer to the second question...
Greengo - 4/25/2013, 4:04 PM
Greengo - 4/25/2013, 4:06 PM
you can post as many pics of Stewart as you can find Levi...

It doesn't change the fact Stewart is not nearly as dynamic and interesting a charachter as Guy.
CavEl - 4/25/2013, 4:11 PM
How fast does Blade move? If Blade doesn't have super-speed, he'll lose.


ricko8687 - 4/25/2013, 4:13 PM
Ryan Reynolds deserves another chance with a good script

gmoney0505 - 4/25/2013, 4:21 PM
LOL at the GL answer. Pitch the idea to Nolan Goyer and get the reboot ready.

DCAU messed up GL when they used John instead of Hal and John has became as popular or even more popular than Hal to many people even though JL has been gone for a long time. WB/DC has just been trying to stick Hal down people throats but fail to realize the popularity of John has risen for alot people. They need to capitalize on their popular minority characters like John and Static.

Go head and do a WW script that have that beginning from the animated movie. Seems WB only like ot listen to Nolan's pitches
DCfan89 - 4/25/2013, 4:22 PM
John is in no way boring, but Hal is a necessity. and for goodness' sake... no cyborg!!!! give me the Martian
ATrueHero1987 - 4/25/2013, 4:24 PM
lol I think the only reason why he said that Batman would be Blade is because he & Snipes are on bad terms.
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