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Roberto Orci And Alex Kurtzman Off Scripting Duties For Transformers 3

The pair of uber writers responsible for such great scripting on things like Star Trek and awful scripting on stuff like..well, Transformers 2 , have stated they definitely wont be returning for the threequel...
According to Slashfilm, Roberto Orci confirmed in a forum post that he and Alex Kurtzman would not return at all for Transformers 3, leaving script duties entirely in the hands of Ehren Kruger, who also worked on the ROTF script..

Responding to one fans query as to whether they were off the project, Orci said..

“It’s true. Time for fresh blood! The main reason we would move on is because we risk getting stale and comfortable. If you only sing one song for too long, you miss the opportunity to sing news songs. We’ll see.”

Apparently, Kruger is credited(if thats the right word) with the majority of the "humor" in ROTF, which many found unfunny and very irritating. Yes, I am aware that some found it delightful and hilarious too! And it looks like your in for a lot more of the same now that Kruger is in the driving seat(no doubt with Bay campaigning for more scenes of stuff humping)

Another interesting post was from Orci to a fan stating that some parents may avoid brining their kids to the third movie after the crude and distinctly non kid friendly content in ROTF...to which Orci responded, “I can’t blame them.”

With Bay working on a story at the moment, he is aiming for a 2011 release.

I guess its pretty futile, but lets hope by some miracle the next movie has more of this..



And less of this...

3 Yes
2 No
Rorschach01
10/6/2009
slashfilm.com

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65 Comments

F**K. I liked both transfomers movies. Especially, for the comedy
supermarioworldE - 10/6/2009, 9:24 PM
well that comment from them,"I can't blame them." speaks volumes. For the longest time I've wondered why there was such a gulf in quality between what he's done before and rotf. I mean he's no shakespeare but his balance between humor and action has always been good. And by humor I don't mean obscenities, I found the second transformers to be really low brow and now we know why. It seems Orci and Kurtzman had less control over rotf, and it suffered noticeably. With out them aboard I don't think I'll even bother with the third, I've had enough poorly done robot humor to last me a while.
I'm pumped for the next star trek though!
thwhtGuardian - 10/6/2009, 9:42 PM
Better not have more of the comedy humor, why didn't Ehren Kruger leave as well? If he's the main reason that ROTF did so bad then he should leave as well, I want to see action and a good story, but not like anything from the Twins. I just hope they get better people to do the script
Instantclassic - 10/6/2009, 9:44 PM
ror: i hope you like the third one better than the 2nd. I recall how disappointed you were and its something I can relate too.


KeepItReal - 10/6/2009, 9:49 PM
@KIR: You're just pissed off that Beyonce won't be playing Wonder Woman
MultiPurposePoni - 10/6/2009, 9:58 PM
What no little robots humpin legs any more.......Damn
HeckYeah - 10/6/2009, 10:00 PM
No no guys, you misread it..there will now more than likely be MORE humping, farting, crying, handicapped mothers, hairy man ass and Devastators balls in the next one..according to sources that say Kruger was responsible for all that shit in the last one anyway.

Thanks KIR, i hope so too! I'll still see it for the big robots anyway!..maybe:)
Rorschach01 - 10/6/2009, 10:05 PM
Actually I think we'll sadly see more of that in the third HeckYeah...
thwhtGuardian - 10/6/2009, 10:06 PM
@Rorschach01 - Damn dude I missed that....Your right...Here's my beef...Why put that crap in a movie that most people will see just because. The last movie was just OK...Had alot of potential thought. Then they do stupid crap like that. This franchise can bring it in to where do a good script.
HeckYeah - 10/6/2009, 10:17 PM
Awwwwww...Crap. While I didn't think ROTF was the worst movie ever, it was not up to the level it needed to be. That "humor" ruined the film for me. Granted, I did chuckle at a few moments, it all just became annoying by the end of the film. Time will tell I guess.
ecksmanfan - 10/6/2009, 10:20 PM
WEll, obviously, they're off because they're sick of Michael Bay screwing with their ideas by throwing in as much idiotic "humor" as possible.

It's really a shame because, as terrible as both films were, they were just terrible executions of decent stories. Now they won't even have that going for them.
slimybug - 10/6/2009, 10:28 PM
My thoughts exactly Slimy.

@Ror
your icon is weirding me out man.
thwhtGuardian - 10/6/2009, 10:33 PM
what the writer(s) for TF3 need to do, i s actually look up transformer lore, give the bots more personality, and the leave the innuendo with the sequel.
ROTF has so much potential. i liked it as an actioneer but for all of that alice crap and wheelie acting like the chihuahua- also leave the dogs in the trailer!
i dont want to see that! i'm all for comedy but this movie was more about selling sex than transformers.

i know bay was trying to sell this movie by multiplying what worked in the first movie. but he didn't have to! all he had to do was get the humans out of the way so we could see the transformers.

Here's why Transformers should sell itself:

it's a movie about GIANT FREAKIN' ROBOTS THAT TRANSFORM and KICK THE CRAP OUT OF EACH OTHER!!!

'nuff said.
Wadey09 - 10/6/2009, 10:47 PM
Heh heh. This franchise is ruined. It's going the same way Pirates went. The first one (Pirates 1) was good, and then the next 2 was just a bunch of crap riding on the coat-tails of success created by the first movie. They know people are still going to go and see this movie regardless of how bad it sucks or how bad ROTF sucked. They're going to milk this franchise for every penny it is worth.

...but they're not getting a dime out of me bwa ha ha ha.
Macksimus - 10/6/2009, 11:10 PM
Am I the only one who enjoyed the last two pirates movies?
thwhtGuardian - 10/6/2009, 11:12 PM
ITS TIME FOR NEW WRITERS, BAY HAS AN EYE FOR ACTION AND SEXY, WHAT I THINK..THE WRITERS GAVE HIM A PATH AND HE FOLLOWED IT, HE'S A VISUAL GUY, AN ACTION JUNKY, I THINK THE WRITERS SAW THE COMEDY AND ACTION AND EXPLOSIONS HE DOES AND JUST CRAMMED IT ALL IN...TOO MUCH OF A GOOD THING IS BAD..NOT SAYING ROTF WAS BAD..IT WAS GOOD BUT NOT AS GOOD AS THE FIRST..NEW WRITERS SOUNDS AWSOME..THIS IS WHAT TRANSFORMERS 3 NEEDS-I WANNA SEE UNICRON AND A BATTLE AWAY FROM EARTH, MAYBE OTHER PLANETS, TRYING TO SAVE CYBERTRON AND THE EARTH BY BATTLING THE ENEMY IN SPACE..MUCH LIKE ARMAGEDON..SO THIS WOULD BE RIGHT UP BAY'S ALLEY...
GUNSMITH - 10/6/2009, 11:23 PM
new writers for sure gun, but these guys were the good guys, anything you liked about the stories was prolly them. with out them all we'll get is more dumb "humor"
thwhtGuardian - 10/6/2009, 11:24 PM
WELL ITS NICE TO GET NEW BLOOD IN THERE, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL DO RESPECT TO G1
GUNSMITH - 10/6/2009, 11:39 PM
yeah, you're right they might get somebody good. I'd feel alot better though if this article was announcing the departure of Ehren Kruger. The only thing that he's done that I've ever found watchable was the brothers Grimm and that was only because of the stellar cast.
thwhtGuardian - 10/6/2009, 11:43 PM
I JUST DON'T WANNA SEE THEM LOOKING LIKE BIONICLE
GUNSMITH - 10/7/2009, 12:01 AM
yeah that's not a desighn I want to see continue, the faces keep getting more and more segmented, it's weird.
thwhtGuardian - 10/7/2009, 12:06 AM
They probably sat down in the first brainstorming meeting with Bay and Kruger, heard what they planned and thought: "Screw this, we have a reputation to maintain."

TF3 will most likely suck because they never really figured out what they did wrong in the first film because as the second film has shown, they kicked up everything that crippled the first one. So they think they know what they're doing and will continue the trend.
This franchise is busted. The director doesn't like Transformers, so how can he possibly create a film paying respect to the material if he thinks the material itself is childish bullshit? He can't. It'll be more of the same garbage just thrown into overdrive that will only truly entertain people who get excitable boners when they attend a Monster Truck Rally. A gormless crowd that would wet their pants in laughter at other gems like "Meet The Spartans" or everything else Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer have done.

It will most likely suck and I just hope they leave Ultra Magnus out of it.
WeaponX - 10/7/2009, 12:17 AM
yeah, I don't intend to even steal the third one unless they get some serious writers.
thwhtGuardian - 10/7/2009, 12:37 AM
im 25 me and my mom went and saw transfoemers 2 and loved it i loved the acton i loved some of the humer my mom 2 my suprise liked the move cus she did not like the first she was laghing so hard she was crying the part that made her laghe the hardest was when one of the twins said thats becouse your a pussy this is just my opinon but i liked it more then the first but maby thats cuz there where more robots and action
thedarkknight666 - 10/7/2009, 12:53 AM
The humor ruined this movie! It's not supposed to be about potty humor...it's freakin' transformers! Funny I don't remember off-color humor in the cartoon! And the humans in here are just plain annoying! And the robots are so far from Transformers that this is a total other idea altogether! Geez, can't anybody see this is total horseshit!!!! I wanna pull Bay's eyeballs out and stuff 'em up his butt! Let's see if he likes that off-colored humor!
DDD - 10/7/2009, 2:10 AM
I liked the movie and opening night everyone was laughing there ass off at the humour....what does that say for me.....i like humping jokes..lol



Luffy@ god damnit dont make me use this......






:P
teabag - 10/7/2009, 2:25 AM
Tea@, everybody likes humping jokes! I just really hate Bay!
DDD - 10/7/2009, 2:27 AM
i loved the cartoons as a kid and im glad it wasint all kidy and made for kids f the kids this movie was made for the 25 to 40 demo that grew up with the toys and cartoons how the f wants to see a g or pg transformers ok bay ant known foor great story telling so what nether was the cartoon it was mostly action any way yes the cartoon had great carictors and good mythos but u cant call it shakspeer the movie knows what it is action yea they put in humor so what they did that for the peopel who did not grow up with it and did not know what a trancformer is i love the action and for the most part liked the humor and i agree the 3rd dose need less humor and more focos on the robots thats what they said about the first we need more robots they gave us more and we said we steel need more its not they we need more robots just more time spent on the ones we have
thedarkknight666 - 10/7/2009, 3:17 AM
Potty humor ain't exactly bad for Transformers but the way Bay used it, it was. The jokes were too silly for my liking, oh, I liked the ones that were actually funny but there were a lot that weren't, just stupid! At least their was more robot action in this one. But without Orci and Kurtzman I ain't wasting my money on the third!
DDD - 10/7/2009, 3:54 AM
We all chuckle at silly crap every so often but by the same token it shouldn't give a writer or director cause to subject an audience member to a relentless serving of idiocy.

Dreamwave. It kept elements of the cartoon but updated the world enough that the first series of the comics (Transformers: Generation 1; Prime Directive) adapted would have been a thousand times, scratch that, a million times better than the crap we eventually got served. A collection of comics that stands to prove you can stay traditional without turning it into a Saturday morning romper room event. This is what a fan means when it should have been closer to the Gen 1 stuff. Not having robots run around with pink cubes side stepping humans wearing yellow hard hats and yellow wellies.

The idea of throwing in corny-ass jokes just for the sole benefit of people unaware of Transformers is a ridiculous notion. Transformers, the first one, was a fine action film but a shit Transformers film. The opportunity to address the issue of making it about the titled characters, was again, ignored in ROTF. The humor written was dumb down to a childish sandbox level. The robots got worse and all the returning characters became more obnoxious and remained one dimensional. Anyone who had an ounce of respect for the source material would never turn Mudflap and Skids into jive talkin', gold tooth sporting, homeboys. Never.

It still made a lot of money so as far as Michael Bay and his ego are concerned the logical direction would be to continue the trend and that means, further deviation from the robots themselves, more explosions and down right moronic toilet humor for Transformers 3. If an individual is fine with accepting mediocrity, then that's cool, for them. Myself, I demand better value for my time and money and T3 will get neither.
WeaponX - 10/7/2009, 5:20 AM
TRANSFORMERS 3 COOL!!!

Hey ACCESS @ Dude for some reason i cant post any comments in your articles?!?

But your RYAN RENOLDS ones funny!!

I say RYAN REYNOLDS for WONDER WOMAN!! ; D
LEEE777 - 10/7/2009, 5:23 AM
TEABAG @ It says you have taste!!

FUN MOVIE!!



LEEE777 - 10/7/2009, 5:26 AM
LEEE@ damn right i had alot of fun watching it and so did the missis........she loved the 2 movies....she hated Transformers before the movies :P

Watched Mystery Men again Last night and noticed Bay was one of the frat boys gang lol :P
teabag - 10/7/2009, 5:50 AM
Now Mystery Men, that was a masterpiece in my humble opinion!
DDD - 10/7/2009, 6:00 AM
BEN STILLER cracks me up in that lol! ; D
LEEE777 - 10/7/2009, 6:10 AM
I loved Macy's bittersweet shovel guy! That movie was way bigger than itself and had so much cool geeky stuff in it, it ain't funny! :D
DDD - 10/7/2009, 6:16 AM
Yeah Mystery Men came out before people could catch up to the humour.....i wanted a sequel damnit :P.....Captain Amazing was funny as hell :)
teabag - 10/7/2009, 6:21 AM
Weapon X@! Agree with all you said back there!

Potty humor's OK but infantile and moronic humor done badly, tastelessly is not! Transformers stunk to me 'cause it was so dumbed-down it watered-down the movies integrity.

And the characters are not getting the respect they deserve. They're not being fleshed out and made more developed!

Transformers 2 was just so shallow to me and that is what Bay is, a shallow movie-maker who doesn't respect his source material. He even said he doesn't care about the source material! He just wants to make bang and nothing but bang makes a movie hollow and without a deep and intricate heart beating healthily!

But that is what most of Hollywood is now, HOLLOW! JJ Abrams and Favrerau made wonderful movies with the source material respected and the characters fully fleshed out but still had so much bang it was exhilerating! That's why ppl loved Star Trek and Iron Man so much!
DDD - 10/7/2009, 6:49 AM
Well Transformers 3 is gonna suck. Well at least I know thats one to avoid, theres always some Green Lantern, Thor and Cap to go see which will hopefully be awesome
dancingmonkey08 - 10/7/2009, 7:10 AM
The first one was alright...just didn't care that much for the bot designs...looked like somebody had some strategically placed magnets in humanoid form and then stuck some damn scrap metal to it. Didn't bother with the second one in the theater...couple more weeks and I'll watch it on blu-ray at the casa...with a 12 pack.
manofsteel71 - 10/7/2009, 8:09 AM
Its not even just a case of how juvenile the humor was, its that Bay does not know when to use it, and when to be serious. In the middle of what is supposed to be the final fight for survival or good vs evil, what does he have? That retarded room mate character burst into tears with a big close up of his face in the back seat of Bumblebee! Thats just one example. The man is a child in a sandbox to quote Weapon X. I'm surprised he didn't have the twins pop up during Prime's death scene eating watermelon and calling Megatron a mofo. Bottom line is, whether you found the humor funny or not is moot, Transformers is not supposed to be a comedy. Its supposed to be an action adventure movie with humorous elements..just like the first one did so well imo. ROTF was basically American Pie with robots.
Rorschach01 - 10/7/2009, 8:15 AM
Rorschach, I couldnt have put it better myself: "American Pie with robots"! lol That sums up Transformers 2 perfectly. At least in American Pie, the humour was funny and was needed in that particular movie, not in Transformers!

And why has no mentioned the dreaded R word yet? In a [frick]ing X-Men article, it would be mentioned a million times already but here it is not even thought of! But I will say it then: a REBOOT may be needed after no.3
dancingmonkey08 - 10/7/2009, 8:56 AM
well the thing American pie was actually good, so I'd say like National Lampoon's the rise of Tajj with robots.
thwhtGuardian - 10/7/2009, 9:15 AM
Unfortunaltly like my missis the way its done has attracted alot of viewers new and old to transformers.....with the fan response so negative how do you think it made so much money....quite simply cus alot of the general audiance liked the format :P
teabag - 10/7/2009, 10:02 AM
I agree..i mean they must. But its not a sign of quality, its a sign of a very young, very undiscerning general public IMO.

"You could smear shit on celluloid, and people would flock to it"

Louis B Meyer
Rorschach01 - 10/7/2009, 10:11 AM
My missis would be first in that que then lol :P
teabag - 10/7/2009, 10:17 AM
Hey i know lots of people that liked ROTF too. Everyone likes different stuff. But, when you get down to the bigger picture, there are some people that will literally watch whatever is put in front of them and lap it up..twice! Thats the reason that shit and mediocre movies do so well, and the reason they will keep on churning them out.
Rorschach01 - 10/7/2009, 10:30 AM
Damn Gi-Joe must of been super shit since that didnt get the repeat viewings lol :)
teabag - 10/7/2009, 10:38 AM
Says the guy who defends wolverine.
supermarioworldE - 10/7/2009, 10:40 AM
I never said I thought Wolverine was a great movie, I said it wasn't as bad as people make out. As an adaptation, yes it was awful, but i can look past that because i dont live in a fan boy bubble were everything has to be exactly like the comic. It was a decent movie with some great (and not so great) performances and action. I certainly found it more enjoyable that Joke and Bayformers.

And, what about the massive changes and liberties those movies took with the source material?? Why doesn't that bother you?
Rorschach01 - 10/7/2009, 10:43 AM
I think I found my evil doppelganger in the guise of the thedarkknight666. His spelling and grammar are poor and he enjoyed the low brow "humor" of rotf. We must never shake hands my dark brother or the universe will explode.
thwhtGuardian - 10/7/2009, 10:55 AM
I enjoyed TF 1 very much and by the result of TF 2 it became very obvious that the quality of TF1 was really a fluke of nature I am now very weary of spending money on TF3.
They should have given the franchise to someone like Riddley Scott, James Cameron, Guillermo del Torro or Peter Jackson. Its sad what has become of this franchise and what disappionts me the most is that the company producing it is Dreamworks where Steven Spielberg is one of the owners and he just allows crap like TF2 to be produced where it should be the other way he should hold his production company to a higher standard he has enough money as it is.
Hellmont - 10/7/2009, 11:58 AM
i actually like that there not coming back. now we can actually have a good story and NO MORE RACIST PIECE OF CRAP ROBOTS!!!!
joob234 - 10/7/2009, 12:43 PM
@Rorschach, It's not about deviation from the source material in wolverine that bothers me, as much as it is terrible scripting, shitty CGI, and awful performances. Now don't get me wrong, Transformers 2 definitely was no masterpiece, but I found it more enjoyable than wolverine.
supermarioworldE - 10/7/2009, 1:32 PM
joob234, did you read the article?? they are the reason that there wasn't more of that crap in the movie.
thwhtGuardian - 10/7/2009, 1:44 PM
I wonder who will come on board to write the 3rd one.
Bandrews1 - 10/7/2009, 1:46 PM
hopefully somebody good.
thwhtGuardian - 10/7/2009, 2:15 PM
They would never treat classical novels and National bestsellers and Shakespeare this way! Hollywood needs to start respecting comic book source material and treat it with some dignity before I'll spend my money on any of their CBM Krap anymore!

The only good thing I see on the Horizon is the made-by-Marvel movies, GL, Star Trek 2, and maybe the Losers or Green Hornet (Yeah you heard me, GH!). I wish Bay would get hit by a truck and disappear from the face of the earth along with Rat-turd and Stinker (Singer)!
DDD - 10/7/2009, 2:48 PM
I think people forget how corny the original show was!! :P
teabag - 10/7/2009, 3:04 PM
yeah it wasn't as glorious as some of our costumed heroes but still tea they should atleast try to write an intelligent story.
thwhtGuardian - 10/7/2009, 3:15 PM
I know but its still a movie about giant talking robots who can tranforme from a 30ft robot into a tiny cassette recorder...lol plus there was robo humping in that too....


:P
teabag - 10/7/2009, 3:41 PM
good point teabag, it seems then that in that respect they stayed true to the source material.
thwhtGuardian - 10/7/2009, 5:17 PM
The film is about giant robots kicking the shit out of each other. It already has too much comedy.
Acerimmer1 - 10/7/2009, 6:13 PM
part 3 is going to sux, even if there r flashy fight scenes
xXkryptoniteXx - 10/8/2009, 7:59 AM
It was an overkill for the ronchy humor however, I didn't pay attention because of the amount of action until it was over. Also, some of the early Mecca cartoons actually had ronchy scenes for example, if anyone in here remembers a cartoon called transzor Z the female robot in this cartoon shot missiles from her nipples. Some tasteless humor is okay, too much is annoying..... and I wish I had a little bit of heads up before I sat down to watch it with my seven year old daughter for sure!
oldschool1978 - 10/25/2009, 12:09 AM

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