Clark Gregg On Working With Marvel Again, The S.H.I.E.L.D TV Show, & Those VISION Rumors

As I'm sure we ALL know by now, agent Coulson met a his demise in The Avengers, but does that mean we won't ever see him on screen again? There is enormous fan support for his return, but what does Clark Gregg think about it all..

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By Mark "RorMachine" Cassidy - 9/4/2012
The fans just won't seem to let ol Phil Coulson rest in peace. Ever since Loki killed the character in The Avengers, many have theorized and speculated as to how Marvel could bring him back from the dead. One theory even involves him being resurrected as The Vision, an android member of the comic incarnation of The Avengers who is inhabited by a human soul. Personally I think dead should be dead, and bringing the character back would only cheapen his heroic check-out, but there is no doubt that the man behind the "son of Coul" is very appreciative of the fan support. In an interview with Movies.com, Clark Gregg once again discusses the possibility of his return to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, his plans to possibly direct for them, and those "hilarious and moving" Vision theories..



"I don't know if we'll see Agent Coulson again, but I certainly do his voice in their animated series, The Ultimate Spider-Man, and you never know, there may be a flashback or something sometime. I really hit it off with those guys [at Marvel], and I've talked to them lately about some ways I can continue to work with them, perhaps as a writer or director."

"You know The Vision is synthetic with a soul, sort of, and he's an amazing character who I loved when I used to read those comics. I love the idea of Coulson as that guy, but I don't know if that's in the cards."


Also, when asked about the recently announced S.H.I.E.L.D tv series he replied - "You know what, that was the moment when I went, 'Great, they're doing the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show and I'm on a slab!". Not to worry, I'm sure Coulson will get a mention, maybe a little memorial plaque on the Hellicarrier bridge or something. Seriously though, if Coulson was to reappear in some form, would you guys like that or should he stay a memory? Sound off below.









Source: Movies.com
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marvel72 - 9/4/2012, 12:49 PM
coulson as vision is the worst idea ever,its like fox making the avengers & not marvel studios.
musashi - 9/4/2012, 12:52 PM
It would have been great to see him on the TV show. Damn Marvel!!! I'd love to see him back but then death will end up being a joke just like in the comics.
Bane2099 - 9/4/2012, 12:54 PM
Just make Coulson a sort of series of LMD models SHIELD has on hand. Theres ur solution to bring him back :]
venom2019 - 9/4/2012, 12:56 PM
I still think that Nick could have lied about his dearth.
RorMachine - 9/4/2012, 1:01 PM
Yeah maybe..I mean it's not like we actually SAW him die or anything.

Oh, wait..
nailbiter111 - 9/4/2012, 1:02 PM
let the character stay dead for the love of god. the fans wanting his return are out of their mind. if he makes any return as the character it lessens the significance of his death. don't chicken out and bring him back.
GoILL - 9/4/2012, 1:06 PM
Leave him dead.
Dedpool - 9/4/2012, 1:06 PM
Coulson as the soul of Vision would rock. He'd be slightly awkward around people cause he remembers them but doesn't have the feelings associated with those memories. He'd be a badass Data from Star Trek the Next Generation.
Maxi91291 - 9/4/2012, 1:10 PM
Man if they decide to bring Valhala or Hela and Hel into Thor ( which I doubt because it doesnt fit the whole asgardians-ancient astronauts) and Thor met the Son of Coul there I would probably cry
DrDoom - 9/4/2012, 1:10 PM
Leave him alone. Making him come back from the dead is a horrible, horrible idea.
Thanos005 - 9/4/2012, 1:10 PM
Coulson is dead. Face facts.

I like Clark Gregg though. If he came back as Vision, but only looked like Coulson to play on the emotions of the Avengers, I would be okay with that. Same actor, separate character, similar appearence.
Chewtoy - 9/4/2012, 1:16 PM
I'm absolutely positive that Coulson will be in the SHIELD TV show... In sequences set in the past, at the very least.

And I'd let him voice the Vision in a heartbeat if they wanted to go that way. The Vision is exactly what he said... a synthetic being with the "soul" of a man who died fighting for the Avengers. He's never had the memories or looks of the person who donated the brain engrams that made up his mind, but the struggle for him and those around him is deciding if he's some version of that man reincarnated or his own, new person.
LorenzoVonMatterhorn93 - 9/4/2012, 1:18 PM
dead should stay dead
marantaz - 9/4/2012, 1:19 PM
OK, there's reason to keep him dead, but there are ways to get around it, and they don't have to involve the Vision, which is an idea I don't support anyway. Fury said he was dead, maybe he was, maybe he wasn't and Fury was lying; maybe Fury thought he was dead, being told that he was, but he was revived, or put on ice and brought back later, like Cap his hero, stranger medical 'miracles' have happened many times before, with SHIELD tech onboard the Helicarrier, who can say... maybe Thor paid a visit after he dined on Indian food and felt a fire in his belly when told Coulson was dead... fired up ol Mjolnir and zapped Coulsons corpse back to life... only to find out the fire in his belly was indigestion, let out a big fart, and now big daddy Odin is royally pissed! (sorry, but I miss the old Not Brand Echh comics!)

ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE... but please, not a Coulson/Vision storyline... anything but that.
shiverman20 - 9/4/2012, 1:20 PM
Sometimes, dead is better
TheDrizzle - 9/4/2012, 1:21 PM
Just a thought. What if Coulston was never really dead? What if he survived, but Fury simply told the Avengers that Coulston died because "they needed something to avenge"? We know Fury lied about the trading cards being in Phil's pocket, so it's not much of a stretch to take it a step further. Not saying this is what they'll do but I hardly think it's far-fetched, and it seems to make more sense than turning him into Vision (not that I would have a huge problem with that). This was the thought I had immediately leaving the theatre but who knows?
Maxi91291 - 9/4/2012, 1:24 PM
Too bad they didnt show the cellist ... I wonder what woman caught coulsons eye ... I picture her always wearing a womens suit and the casing for her cello is full of guns just like El Mariachi
Moakynubs - 9/4/2012, 1:25 PM
I'm honestly totally on the fence here. It's totally plausable for him to come back. The hints are definitely there. But I'd like to see a character stay dead.
ATrueHero1987 - 9/4/2012, 1:26 PM
Coulson aka the Son Of Coul as Vision is a BAD idea.
jimpinto24 - 9/4/2012, 1:28 PM
I wish Phil Coulson didn't have to be killed off by Loki in The Avengers, but he is better to R.I.P. It wouldn't be a good idea to bring Agent Coulson back to life as Vision. I would like to see flashback scenes with Coulson in The Avengers 2. But again, not as Vision. What Marvel Studio's should do is go ahead, and cast Vin Diesel as Vision.
iJackSparrow - 9/4/2012, 1:29 PM
The fans just won't seem to let ol Phil Coulson rest in peace. Ever since Loki killed the character in The Avengers, many have theorized and speculated as to how Marvel could bring him back from the dead. One theory even involves him being resurrected as The Vision, an android member of the comic incarnation of The Avengers who is inhabited by a human soul. Personally I think dead should be dead, and bringing the character back would only cheapen his heroic check-out, but there is no doubt that the man behind the "son of Coul" is very appreciative of the fan support. In an interview with Movies.com, Clark Gregg once again discusses the possibility of his return to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, his plans to possibly direct for them, and those "hilarious and moving" Vision theories..


This is completely wrong and off, and I'm sorry if this is sounding rude, but please do a research before posting something about characters you clearly have little to no knowledge, especially when your articles will come to the front page.

First things first: Vision DOESN'T have a human soul. Vision is an android, created by Ultron and he calls him a "synthezoid". Take a look at how convoluted and non-cinematic Vision's origin is:

The robot Ultron is the creator of the Vision, a type of android he calls a "synthezoid", for use against Ultron's own creator, Dr. Henry Pym (Ant-Man/Giant Man/Goliath/Yellowjacket) and Pym's wife, Janet van Dyne (the Wasp) of the superhero team the Avengers. Ultron sends his new servant to lead the Avengers into a trap. The Wasp is the first to encounter the synthezoid, and describes it as a "vision" while trying to escape. Adopting the name, the Vision is convinced by the Avengers to turn against Ultron.[2] After learning how Ultron created him, using the brain patterns of then-deceased Simon Williams (Wonder Man), the Vision becomes a member of the team.[3] The team initially believes the Vision's body was created from that of the android original Human Torch.[4] The Avengers later are told that the time lord Immortus used the power of the Forever Crystal to split the original Human Torch into two entities - one body remained the original Torch while Ultron rebuilt the other as the Vision. This was part of his plan to nurture a relationship for the Scarlet Witch that would prevent her from having any children, as her power level meant that any offspring she might have could threaten the cosmic beings of the Marvel Universe.[5]


Source: Wikipedia

As you can obviously see, Vision's comic book origin is too convoluted to take it seriously in the big screen. Hence the fact that some people - myself included - think that the seeds for in the future Ultron would use decesead Agent Coulson's brain pattern and memories are already there within the films from the Phase 1, especially The Avengers. Remember what Colonel Nick Fury says to Steve Rogers and Tony Stark after Agent Coulson dies:

[after Coulson dies, Fury gathers the remaining Avengers in the ship's meeting room]
Nick Fury: These were in Phil Coulson's jacket. Guess he never did get you to sign them.
[he throws Coulson's Captain America trading cards on the table towards Steve]
Nick Fury: We're dead in the air up here. Our communications, location of the cube, Banner, Thor. I got nothing for you. Lost my one good eye. Maybe I had that coming.
[he pauses for a moment]
Nick Fury: Yes, we were going to build an arsenal with the Tesseract. I never put all my chips on that number though, because I was playing something even riskier. There was an idea, Stark knows this, called The Avengers Initiative. The idea was to bring together a group of remarkable people, see if they could become something more. See if they could work together when we needed them to, to fight the battles that we never could. Phil Coulson died still believing in that idea, in heroes.
[Stark gets up and walks off]
Nick Fury: Well, it's an old fashioned notion.


See, Agent Coulson is dead. He isn't coming back. He brought The Avengers together somehow, he was the unifying tissue through all these films. He was also Nick Fury's good eye. His vision. His conscience. All these are attributes that could easily work to bring us an even better Vision than we have in comics. Vision is a serious character, but he does use an old fashion costume.

The Vision, if they wanted to bring him to the fold, I can't see it a better way than that. It's tragic because Ultron would be using the memories and the semblance of someone that is dear to a good chunk of the team. The one who brought them together used to tear them apart. It's not about not letting "the dead stay dead". Coulson is dead and he isn't coming back. Vision is another story. And is within the origin of the character that Ultron uses the brain patterns of someone dear to the team to take them down.

I ask, who is better for that than Agent Phil Coulson? The writing is all over the wall for those that have the knowledge of the Marvel Mythology and are looking to the clues. Marvel's official origin for Vision won't be used. Having Coulson's pattern waves to create Vision and using Clark Gregg as the face and voice for him can create some spectacularly powerful and emotional scenes.
iJackSparrow - 9/4/2012, 1:30 PM
@Maxi91291

I'm thinking that she is probably called Wanda and has a very protective brother called Pietro.
CaptainObvious - 9/4/2012, 1:31 PM
As if we didn't need any more reasons as to why a bad fan idea should stay a bad fan idea.
Ranger14 - 9/4/2012, 1:36 PM
"Yeah maybe..I mean it's not like we actually SAW him die or anything.

Oh, wait.."

We saw what "appeared" to be his death. There was never any confirmation that he actually died and based on some things Fury said, it leaves that door open. It's not like we haven't seen supposed deaths in films before and they end up surviving in some way. Kind of typical in typical hero movies. The hero is apparently dead but ends up surviving somehow. I'm not saying that is or should be the case here, but it can't be just written off completely.
shangho - 9/4/2012, 1:40 PM
I personally like the idea of Coulson as vision.It would be a departure from the comics yes,but that always happens in big screen translations.Now granted 9 times out of 10 it sucks (ie:Superman having a kid???Or something as simple as costume changes),but I don't think his death would lose its impact as A:The Avengers triumphed after his death and B:it wouldn't be Coulson so much as it would be his likeness used in the creation of Vision.Same actor sure but his death and performance during his life could surely be used as the inspiration behind Vision's creation.And I feel that Marvel has done a bang up job with their cinematic universe so if they were to take that route it would be done tastefully and within the frame of the overall story!
Curmudgeon - 9/4/2012, 1:44 PM
How exactly is Ultron supposed to base the brainwaves for Vision on a guy whose brain is no longer making waves?
Durf - 9/4/2012, 1:47 PM
Coulson is dead. Period. Let's just keep it that way. Now if they want to show him in flashbacks or something, then fine. Other than that, he is [frick]ing dead
Durf - 9/4/2012, 1:47 PM
@yoss: I don' know what that has to do with anything, but I don't care...
CaptainObvious - 9/4/2012, 1:54 PM
@Ranger14- But we saw him stop breathing. We saw him lose alot of blood. I don't care if the film made it clear enough to make sure he wouldn't come back. We watched him die and bringing him back will destroy the significance of his death.
RorMachine - 9/4/2012, 1:55 PM
iJackSparrow, I;m impressed..you got through that entire post without mentioning Andrew Garfield or TASM once!

As to your point, what I meant by the android being inhabited by a human soul..provided you believe in that sort of thing..was that the brain patterns are the essence of the human personality, therefore he is "possessed" if you like, by a human consciousnesses = human soul. I was basically just echoing Gregg anyway. No need to go all psycho nerd on us.
TheSoulEater - 9/4/2012, 1:56 PM
@Durf6199

Where'd your gif come from?
rogmel - 9/4/2012, 1:57 PM
first off, yossarian.....just delightful. wonderful post and I thank you for it.

second, it could have been wishful thinking on my part, but the scene in the Avengers when Coulson does the retina scan at the door...it looks like circuitry shows up on his face, like the scan set it off. Watch for it when the dvd comes out.
RorMachine - 9/4/2012, 1:58 PM
Ranger, dude he died. He breathed his last, his eyes dimmed, he said his last words. He checked out, bought the farm, is pushing up daisys, is an EX Agent, he's shuffled of this mortal coil. DEAD.

And IF by some miracle they did bring him back based around the premise that we didn't actually see him die, it would be the singe most ridiculous thing in a movie..ever, and I would have to not watch it. because we did see him die.
Godzillafart - 9/4/2012, 2:03 PM
I agree with the "he died and should stay dead" crowd.

However, if they decided to have Coulson as the template for Vision, and use his voice for Vision, I wouldn't mind if it was done well.
avengers72 - 9/4/2012, 2:09 PM
the dead should stay dead.
KillerTomato - 9/4/2012, 2:14 PM
Keep him dead, he was a great character and his death carried alot of weight. Though showing some flashbacks in either the movie or TV versions...well that'd be just fine, he should have nothing to do with Vision...provided they even introduced Vision, we'd kind of need Ultron first...
ATrueHero1987 - 9/4/2012, 2:15 PM
Shit, cast me as The Vision!! :)
marvel72 - 9/4/2012, 2:20 PM
marvel studios the avengers 2 = ultron creates vision,coulson stays dead

20th century fox the avengers 2 = coulson becomes vision created by tony stark

thats how much a bad idea it is,marvel studios would be as bad as the butchers fox.
AC1 - 9/4/2012, 2:23 PM
He should stay dead. That doesn't mean we can't see him in prequels though ;)
TheAmazingSpiderWill - 9/4/2012, 2:28 PM
I liked the idea that Ultron makes Vision in Coulsons image to gain the trust of the Avengers. That way Gregg could still play him it just wouldn't actually be Coulson. He should stay dead though, it would ruin the Avengers original motivation.
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