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The Making of Star Trek V, Part 1: 20 Years Later

As STAR TREK V: THE FINAL FRONTIER celebrates its 20th anniversary, STAR TREK: THEN & NOW takes a look back at it through a series of excerpts from the currently-out-of-print book THE MAKING OF THE TREK FILMS.

ST V - 01 STAR TREK IV: THE VOYAGE HOME was both a critical and commercial success that achieved its goal of being the much sought after "crossover film;" a TREK film that appealed to the mainstream audience. As such, it was a hard act to follow, a fact that no one could deny, let alone William Shatner. The actor had, as stated previously, made a point in his contract for the fourth film in the series of being given the opportunity to direct number five. After all, Leonard Nimoy had twice been given that chance and Shatner knew that he was contractually entitled to the same thing.


   "Directing has been a lifelong dream," Shatner enthused. "My business is to entertain people, and to communicate my feelings to them, so I find the best way is to direct. Directing is the pinnacle of our business. A really good director has a point of view on his film and all his other skills emanate from that spine. I've always wanted to entertain, and I think I can do that with my point of view, so I'm under the impression that I can gather all my skills around me to make people laugh and cry. I wanted to do more. I haven't done it to the extent that I wanted to. I think the movies have matured beyond the series and we have to give our audience that maturity. I'd like to think that's what I've done."


   No sooner had production been completed on STAR TREK IV, than Shatner began thinking of the next chapter in the ongoing saga.


   In terms of his goals, he stated, "I have two things that I'd like to see. They're contrasted and yet unified. One is that I'd like to see romance in the stories again. The second is that I would like to see gritty realism. You know, with hand-held cameras, dirt under the fingernails and real steel clanging doors. I hope that the end result will reflect certain life experiences that I am going through, because as we take the characters through the aging process, there are certain inevitable questions one asks oneself through each passage, each decade that we pass through, roughly. We ask ourselves questions which are universal that don't occur when you're younger [and] so I hope that the end result will reflect some of these questions that I want the characters to ask. It is our hope that this film, like STAR TREK IV, will appeal to a larger audience than just the aficionados of STAR TREK. With the humor and action/adventure the film has, it is my fervent wish that that will come true."


ST V - 02    Shatner definitely had his storyline in mind, beginning with the fascination he had always held for television evangelists who claim that God is speaking through them, rather than someone else. "I took the TV evangelist persona and created a holy man who thought God had spoken to him," said Shatner. "He believed God had told him, 'I need many followers, and I need a vehicle to spread my word throughout the universe.' That vehicle he needed became a starship [the Enterprise] which the holy man would capture when it came to rescuing some hostages he had taken....Finally the Enterprise arrives at the planet where God supposedly resides, in the center of the universe....Kirk, Spock, McCoy and the holy man are beamed down to the planet. It's like the drawings of Dante's INFERNO, like a flaming hell. When God appears, he seems like God....but gradually, in a conversation between God and the holy man, Kirk perceives that something is wrong and begins to challenge God. God gets angrier and angrier, and begins to show his true colors, which are those of the devil....So essentially that was my story: that man conceives of God in his own image, but those images change from generation to generation, therefore he appears in all these different guises as man-made Gods. But in essence, if the devil exists, God exists by inference. This is the lesson that the STAR TREK group learns. The lesson being that God is within our hearts, not something we conjure up, invent and then worship."


   To turn his story into a screenplay, Shatner went to NINJA author Eric Von Lustbader, whose work he felt had the right touches of mood and mystery that would be perfectly suited to the premise of STAR TREK V. Unfortunately, Lustbader reportedly wanted a cool million for his services, which Paramount Pictures refused to pay. While Shatner threatened--albeit briefly--to quit the project, he ultimately came to his senses. Both he and the studio decided that they wanted Harve Bennett to serve as producer, but Bennett, who, as previously discussed, felt that he had been abused on STAR TREK IV, was not too taken with the idea. However, he and Shatner had an extremely long and intense meeting and ultimately decided to work together. Upon coming aboard, Bennett's major problem was that he didn't like the basic thrust of the story.


   "The real problem with V," Bennett told CINEFANTASTIQUE, "was that the premise was faulty. You pick up a TV GUIDE and you read the log line which says, 'Tonight on TREK, the crew goes to find God.' Automatically, and unconsciously, you know we're not going to find God because no one has and no one will, and no one would be so arrogant to say what they're depicting on screen is actually God, because others will say, 'No it's not.' So we know we're going to face an anticlimax, a trick. The nature of the trick is the only suspense in the story. But you'd say this to Bill and he's say, 'No,   no, it's the greatest adventure of all time,' and I'd say,  'No, it's not an adventure because everyone is ahead of you. So what we have to do is make getting there as interesting as possible."



TO BE CONTINUED

ABC takes on sci-fi again midseason with the new version of "V". For the latest news on "V", plus retrospective pieces on the original, just click below.

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EdGross
6/13/2009

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28 Comments

Ed you've been busy lol! ; )



I personally like TREK 4 more than 5, hell 4 is one of my favs!!! Oh yeah, V remakes gonna be a piece of alien crap! ; D
LEEE777 - 6/13/2009, 3:54 PM
: D


LEEE777 - 6/13/2009, 4:08 PM
BOOOO! star trek SUCKS!

YAAAY! Star Wars RULES!
LuV1138 - 6/13/2009, 4:33 PM
@LuV1138---Peep this, if you got 8 minutes to kill. ;)


SpiderMan209 - 6/13/2009, 5:51 PM
4+5 both suck in my opinion
4- has a shitty premise that all "hippy" save the whales and shit. for a probe that comes to earth to talk to whales, the probe [frick]s earth up till KIRK gets the whales, the probe talks to the whales or whatever a minute and leaves. totally unexplained excuse to throw the TREK crew in the 80s. aside from some humorous moments and chekov's [frick]-up that results in KHAN the movie is lame.
5-odd character moments that are both sometimes enteratining and other times flawed. the story is weak and the premise while interesting "finding god" like JESSE CUSTER doesnt pay off at all, it only adds more confusion. i mean the great barrier was impregnable and yet two ships make it both in and out? wheres the danger there?
4 is better than 5 still though for 2 reasons
4-responsible for KHAN
5-UHURA and SCOTTY come on to eachother.
BOTH HAVE HORRIBLE ENDINGS
dellamorte1872 - 6/13/2009, 7:04 PM
I love them all:) Every single one! Even the very first one haha. Wrath of Khan is my favy, but they're all close to my heart <3 hahahahahahaha.
SirExcalibur - 6/13/2009, 8:18 PM
LEEE777--Dude I liked that first guy's song. Kinda awesome.

I liked this article, great job, ED. I gotta say though, people talk about this one sucked and that one sucked, I loved almost all of them.

The Star Trek movies with the old cast had a way of making you feel like you're watching a movie. Which isn't that hard for them because the effects biz had grown by leaps and bounds by the time they started pumping out movies so anything effects wise is better than their 60s series.

The Next generation however, I like the show better but their movies less. I didn't start disliking Star Trek movies until next generation movies, even though I like the show more. SOme of them just didn't have enough going on. Not enough BANG or something. I wonder what the Next Generation cast thinks about the newest movie?
Betty - 6/13/2009, 8:20 PM
Nic vid SpiderMan209 @ AWWWW you gotta LUV LUV1138! Atleast he's commited!!! : D

STAR WARS does RULE though! Even though i loved the new TREK movie!


BETTY @ lol!

Oh yeah, my fav series was ENTERPRISE! Heh heh, no really, don't shoot me!!! ; D

Man, you just gotta luv the intro!

All together now =


; )
LEEE777 - 6/13/2009, 10:53 PM
KHHHHAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNN
teabag - 6/14/2009, 12:52 AM
i know everyones about WRATH OF KHAN. I LOVE IT, ITS A GREAT FILM. SPACE SEED IS MY FAVORITE EPISODE OF THE TV SERIES. but my "personal" favorite will always be THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK i love CHRISTOPHER LOYD'S CHARACTER. "he's not dead if we remember him!"

BEST TO WORST
3
2
6 (DIALOGUE KICKS ASS)
1
4
5 (DIALOGUE WAS SOMETIMES ENTERTANING THOUGH!)
dellamorte1872 - 6/14/2009, 7:35 AM
3 has some good moments but i find it a bit slow

My list goes
2
6
4
3
1
5 (row,row,row your boat) nuff said

teabag - 6/14/2009, 8:54 AM
-- dellamorte1872--

You mention, "and chekov's [frick]-up that results in KHAN the movie is lame."

What are you reffering to.
Just wondering.

CockKnocker - 6/14/2009, 9:22 AM
My List:

2 (Awesome)
1 (I was just so excited to see Start Trek back after so many years.)
6 (Kirk having prison sex, kewl.)
3 ( Passable )
4 (Too silly, Scotty tries to talk to the mouse but can type 200 words per minute, Kirk suddenly forgets how to swear "double damn on you" even though he swears in the first movie (damn it Bones, I need him), Its just too tongue in cheek)
5 (YIKES ... )
CockKnocker - 6/14/2009, 9:34 AM
I have always been a fan of both but more of STARTREK. But honestly StarWars is more fantasy fun then STARTREK. Where it is more intuned to our history. I have to point out that STARTREK was the only show of its kind during the seventies that push the envelope on cutural issue that just about everyone can relate to. And also STARTREK lead the way for STARWARS and other great SCIFI shows that have came after it. Also It still has the longest running series of any SCIFI SERIES. STARWARS can't say that. But it would be nice to see a live action for tv Star WArs series. I don't know why its taking so long. There is plenty of potential for it.
Spock - 6/14/2009, 9:40 AM
True spock i guess its clone wars or nothing but i thought star trek was around in the 60's?
teabag - 6/14/2009, 9:51 AM
@ Teabag I forgot It was 66-69, before my time but your right. & I call myself a TRekkie, shame on me. Again lets move forward past CloneWARS & picard, Voyager, Vader, etc!!! I am ready for something new.
Spock - 6/14/2009, 9:57 AM
I was not being picky spock i was unsure.Fraid im not much of a trekkie but thats why i think the original films were great.....a sense of fun that grabbed me, and sorely lost on the next gen films
teabag - 6/14/2009, 10:00 AM
I understand what your saying - teabag - but I do think there was still plenty of fun in the NexGen movies.
In Insurrection when Riker shaves his beard off and describes it and "smooth as an android's bottom" then Data touches his face, grins and shakes his head I laughed my ass off.
It was a perfect comedy duet with Riker as the jokester and Data as the straight man.
CockKnocker - 6/14/2009, 10:19 AM
i agree @TEABAG i got into the films before the original series itself. i always loved TNG
dellamorte1872 - 6/14/2009, 10:19 AM
its all good...... Teabag!!!
Spock - 6/14/2009, 10:20 AM
Were all spreading the star trek love
teabag - 6/14/2009, 10:25 AM
I liked Enterprise, just hated the theme song. It sounds like it was written and performed by the south park guys.
Betty - 6/14/2009, 10:43 AM
@SpiderMan209:
of course the "star trek" side won, becuase it was made by a "star trek" fan...you mook. I bet Darth Vader himself could eliminate all the "star trek" crew with his bare hands, he has fighting skills, not like the "star trek" crew, whom is always hiding behind that weird-looking thing they call ship. LOL! star trek makes me laugh...LOL!
LuV1138 - 6/14/2009, 1:54 PM
There both the same as they lost their way. Star Trek is back on solid ground i dont see Star wars doing the same
teabag - 6/14/2009, 2:04 PM
chekov leaves his communicator and shit with the navy in 4, resulting in the speed up of technology, that results in the eugenics wars and KHAN
dellamorte1872 - 6/14/2009, 4:48 PM
OK, I never caught that. Thanks @ dellamorte1872
CockKnocker - 6/14/2009, 10:16 PM
@CockKnocker..lol. Kirk doesn't forget how to swear, he actual says "Double dumb-ass on you!" just a swear I guess he wasn't used to lol. Just thought I'd clear that up haha. I think if Kirk had forgotten how to use "Damn" after saying it to Bones so much that we'd have more angry fans haha.
SirExcalibur - 6/15/2009, 3:39 AM
i never knew it either till i watched a documentary about WRATH OF KHAN so it made me have a lil appreciation for 4 b/c KHAN is a reult of their WHALE FIASCO
dellamorte1872 - 6/15/2009, 12:01 PM

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