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Live Action Wonder Woman Movie Plans Are On Again!

IESB.NET announces that there may be hope for the Live Action Wonder Woman Movie after all.
Last March 12, 2009, IESB.NET announced that according to Warner Brothers & Silver Pictures...the Wonder Woman Live Action Movie is "picking up steam" ever since Silver Pictures hired Andrew Roma to be the man in charge of spearheading the project together with Joel Silver.

According to IESB.NET-

"Sources in the Burbank studios have confirmed there is quite a bit of movement on the WW front. With Green Lantern going into production this year, it looks like Princess Diana may finally get the go ahead from WB.

WB and Silver Pictures are in the early stages but they are eager to get started on the movie. Sources tell IESB that WB is looking for new writers on the project and have been taking pitches the last few weeks."

There is speculation within the fan community that the overwhelmingly favorable response to the Wonder Woman Animated Movie as well as the Comicbook run by fan favorite Wonder Writer- Ms. Gail Simone may have played a role in getting the live action movie plans re-started. We certainly hope so as it is so long overdue. And for skeptics who still cling to the notion that it isn't feasible to produce a Wonder Woman movie Live action film because Elektra & Catwoman didn't make it, all I can say is that they flopped because they're simply NOT in the same league as Wonder Woman.
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3/25/2009
Raffy Arcega

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207 Comments

Hey dude, No problem but I posted this on the 16th.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/OnlyZodKnowsWhy/news/?a=6633

Oh and Roma is the new head of Silver Pictures as well.
And I agree that this should be better than Catwoman.

HAWK out.
THEHAWK - 3/25/2009, 2:02 PM
Elektra and Catwoman flopped because they were shit movies. Theres nothing wrong with those characters...WW could flop too! But hopefully they will take more care with this one..it should take a nod from the Animated movie, that was awesome.
Rorschach01 - 3/25/2009, 2:06 PM
Elektra and Catwoman flopped because the casting, scripts and effects were all shit. Catwoman was the biggest steaming pile I have seen in years, it made me very very sad. If we're talking about people who need to stay the heck away from comic movies I nominate Halle Berry. Learn from it and don't f*** this one up.
ComicChic - 3/25/2009, 2:14 PM
No they will, because alot of people are wanting Beyonce to get her way and the part. That will kill comicbook movies. She can't act! And she is to short.
THEHAWK - 3/25/2009, 2:20 PM
LOL... I worry less about Beyonce getting the part and more about Silver making her fight a Giant Spider
nerosday - 3/25/2009, 2:27 PM
What you talkin about Willis? ??????
THEHAWK - 3/25/2009, 2:38 PM
Hope this one works out, but ComicChic is right that the scripts & effects weren't that great. But I would disagree the Halle & Sharon were good pics, but the script that was just bad. They acted better in other movies they have done.
Spock - 3/25/2009, 2:40 PM
I back up my comment with Halle as Storm. *shudder*
ComicChic - 3/25/2009, 2:43 PM
"Last March 12, 2009?" I Didnt know there was two 2009s'!..

Elekra was a good movie, I pratically enjoyed it!? Catwomen I've never seen yet, probably wont..

Either Wonderwoman will flop because people aint willing to except a superhero herione? Or just sexism?
Minotauro - 3/25/2009, 2:45 PM
Yeah but also see the X Men movies! Halle Berry can be very good but i agree that she should stay away from comic book movies in the future.

sorry comicchic..posted at the same time there!
Rorschach01 - 3/25/2009, 2:47 PM
@ ComicChic "I back up my comment with Halle as Storm. *shudder* "

I agree 100% with that...

For wonderwoman they need to get someone who isn't a cheezy actress... Get someone who can own the character & or make it something seriously strong...

Yeah she's gotta be hot, but don't make that the only reason she's picked...
Pumchavas28 - 3/25/2009, 2:53 PM
THEHAWK sorry, The giant spider thing comes from "An evening with Kevin Smith." He tells this great story about how Joel Silver has a fixation with having giant spiders in his movies.

Smith at one point was given the chance to write a Superman script, this is a few years before Superman Returns was green lit. Silver wanted to do Supes as an outter space based sci-fi flick and insisted Smith write in a battle with a giant Spider.

Eventually they thankfully passed on the script and the Tim Burton came and went and finally Singer got the rights, but Kevin laughed when he saw Wild, Wild, West a couple of years later, which Silver also produced, and of course Loveless has a giant walking Spider Tank.

Check it out on youtube it is some funny stuff. Look up Kevin Smith Superman
nerosday - 3/25/2009, 3:00 PM
they need to cast someone who is a quality actor who isn't a big name so you can see the character not the actor. If they go with a know actor they need to be someone who really immerses into the role, but that is unlikely with the "A-listers" they cram down our throats.
ComicChic - 3/25/2009, 3:01 PM
cool. just use the animated movie as a template and it should be good.
grif - 3/25/2009, 3:05 PM
Crap, Scratch that, it was John Peters. Sorry, my bad. Joel Silver I humbly ask for your forgiveness, sir. Now I feel like a dumb ass.
nerosday - 3/25/2009, 3:10 PM
Actually, I thought Halle Berry was a great choice for Catwoman. Just because they trashed the whole concept with script and directing and art.... But, yeah, she definitely was not well cast as Storm.

People are actually wanting Beyonce to be WW???!!!! That would be an instant death sentence for the movie.

And I admit Elektra was entertaining as long as you pretended it had nothing to do with the Marvel character.
mwmcintyre - 3/25/2009, 3:14 PM
Yeah,mwmcintyre they do, unfortunately.

Beyonce wants it because it will be a boost to her career, and she says that she and WW "have so much in cooomn, we're bothstrong and independent and intelligent women." Everyone else who wants her is either a big Beyonce fan,or they feel that superheroes need to be diversified. There aren't enough black superheroes, stuff like that, which is true. But there also isn't enough women superheroes either.
THEHAWK - 3/25/2009, 3:30 PM
Well i liked cat women and elektra. But they r right Wonder Women is in a differaunt leage and would do better. And here we go again beyonce woulden't be a good wonder women shes not black. But she would be a good cay women. And i like the differaunt take on cat women , and i can see why they changed it, lets face it shes just a thef that dresses up in a cat suite. This versoin is alot better.
Logan-X - 3/25/2009, 3:51 PM
Well i never thought id see the day! The man who is all about the movies following the comics actually liked Elektra and Catwoman!..what no complaints about the suits and the story and what not? Those 2 pieces of crap took far more liberties with the source material than the Wolverine movie your always slagging off did!!
Rorschach01 - 3/25/2009, 4:16 PM
Wonderwoman needs a top notch headliner to play her who is hot and can act, 10 years ago i might have nominated Julia Roberts but now I dunno. Ashley Judd maybe 5 years ago could do it, don't wanna say it but Angelina Jolie could do it if she was willing to gain 10 lbs of muscle which she aint cause she gotta starve herself like her kids are used to. O.K. maybe that was a low blow but yall know that woman would be hella fine, i mean hella finer, with a little more meat on her bones.
Galvatron - 3/25/2009, 4:53 PM
I HATE ANGELINA!! And were is my snake!
THEHAWK - 3/25/2009, 5:01 PM
JUST GET THE RIGHT GIRL AND THE RIGHT DIRECTOR THAT WILL FOLLOW THE SOURCE MATERIAL TO EVERY DETAIL, AND THAT ALONE SPEAKS FOR ALL THE FANS..YOU MAKE ANOTHER DRAGONBALL, SREETFIGHTER,CATWOMAN, WE WILL @#$%$@@ YOU GUYS....
GUNSMITH - 3/25/2009, 5:16 PM
Megan Gale is the only WW in my heart. lol
akthunder - 3/25/2009, 5:18 PM
@hawk...how can you hate Angelina, after all she has done for our genre, I thought you were down man. Wanted, Tomb Raider, Mr. and Mrs. Pitt, i mean Smith, she was awsome.
Galvatron - 3/25/2009, 5:19 PM
CAN MEGAN GALE ACT THOUGH, SHE LOOKS GOOD, SHES A MODEL, CAN SHE ACT?
GUNSMITH - 3/25/2009, 5:45 PM
i agree that Catwoman and elektra could of been good movies if they had the right actress and director. I just hope they keep true to wonder women and that this is a step in the right direction for other female Hero movies.
HR - 3/25/2009, 6:08 PM
NO, I say no to this movie because I want to see her in Smallville
RecoSwaVa - 3/25/2009, 6:15 PM
@RecoSwaVa, wonder woman and batman also cant appear in smallville due to some stupid clause.
zinext - 3/25/2009, 7:07 PM
WW would be an amazing movie, with the right actress and the right script. But Beyonce, sweetheart, get real!!! You're not right for the part whatsoever, not based on your skin color. Your acting is not up to par enough to play Diana. And as far as a black WW, forget diversification!!! That's like making Storm or Black Panther white!!! Please, I would throw a hissy ift if I saw Charlize Theron playing Ororo Munroe, or Russell Crowe as Black Panther. Maybe you could play Artemis, NOT!!! Get real, hoe!!! I vote Angelina as WW. She did as many stunts as she could for almost all her movies, she's hot, she's a good will ambassador for the UN (just as Diana is an ambassador to the man's world) and she's an ass kicker all around. If you really think about it, there's nobody else who has the credentials Angie does. Oh did I mention, she's got an Oscar?? Think about it.
PhoneixBurns - 3/25/2009, 7:20 PM
AWWW man. I love WW, but she cannot carry her own movie. She would have to be introduced through a Batman/Superman movie. This movie is not going to happen.
DarkAvengers - 3/25/2009, 7:24 PM
@ Galvatron. I don't like Angelina because she is one of those actresses that made it big because of her looks, she is not that good of an actress. Her movies are good, she has the star power to draw crouds, but she is not Wonder Woman. I honestly don't think she would be able to portray her affectively. She doesn't seem right for the role. TOmb Raider was good, and Alexander was good, but thats the only two I liked her in, I liked Wanted, but not for her performance. She does not have the look, she won't gain weight or bulk up for the movie, in fact she is using some new diet drug, thats making her lose a crap load of weight. Plus she is rumored to be the next Bond Girl,so she will be committed to that most likely.
THEHAWK - 3/25/2009, 7:59 PM
My vote goes to Catherine Bell as WW, she straight up IS wonder woman as far as looks go, can act fairly well, and is a relative unknown, because who really watched JAG? Plus I dont want to see it go to some young chick.
JiMb0 - 3/25/2009, 8:53 PM
I second that JiMb0, Catherine Bell would be a great Wonder Woman.
WeaponX - 3/25/2009, 9:45 PM
i dont think i'm sexist, but i really dont give a crap about any female superheroes.... only female villians or side heros (aka the xmen) bot as leads
fotc - 3/25/2009, 9:57 PM
i'd go with jessica biel. she's already got the physique,(see stealth), the looks and can act. everyone's right about having the right script, director etc. iron man was just a b-level hero(b+ maybe) and look how that turned out. you could tell with elektra and catwoman that all the studios cared about was making their money back and a slight profit off of domestic, foriegn, and dvd sales combined. WW def deserves better treatment. beyonce's ass is too FAT to be WW. there i said it! someone mentioned a white ororo and the black panther as being nuts. agreed, same as a white luke cage. no will smith as CAP and GL should be hal not jon stewart ( jon as a supporting character would be ok). sorry didn't mean to get to much into race, but comic book movies are not supposed to be P.C.
bw - 3/25/2009, 9:58 PM
I would prefer a less known actress as WW. I heard Alana De La Garza mentioned in the past and I think she would be great.
CockKnocker - 3/25/2009, 9:59 PM
When the poster is hanging in a theater, I'll believe it. Otherwise, it just seems like smoke up the ole pipehole...(is that right?)
TucsonRican - 3/25/2009, 10:21 PM
Yep, TucsonRican, you are right this just seems like mindless speculation although fun mindless speculation.

I have to say no to Angelina (it would be a heart wrenching story about a superheroine who travels to an african nation to fight an evil tiranic dictator and manages to adopt an orphanage full of brats), and Julia Roberts?? I mean WW has to embody physical perfection, and Julia Roberts is far from perfect, neither is Beyonce (stick to your music), now I seriously don't know who should play her, but most of the DCU movies have been casting actors that are younger than 30 for their superheroes, so that cuts Angelina right away, specially if the JLA rumors are true (even if it's not shown, WW and Superman have to have romantic tension).
NoobMike - 3/25/2009, 10:42 PM
Yes! Do it! I'd definitely go see it. I just hope it doesn't have the same gaping unanswered holes as the recent animated release. Otherwise, the Amazon has a swath of potential to be so awesome.

"...not in the same 'league' as WW." Good one! ;-)
Phinehas - 3/25/2009, 10:53 PM
I think Bridget Reagen (Legend of the Seeker) would make an excellent WW.
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What do y'all think? :)
SpiderMan209 - 3/25/2009, 10:56 PM
Hello BLACK GUY here Im sure its not too hard to figure out with the photo and all LOL. Believe me I love seeing Beyonce especially in revealing garments,but not at the expense of the WONDER WOMAN MOVIE\FRANCHISE.Hancock with Will Smith was pretty good I thought. If Beyonce and her people need\wants her to be a superheroine.....make one up and let her star in it.Just dont touch the heroes that we're all expecting to be true to its comicbook counter part. No black Captain American,Superman,Wonder Woman,nor anyother heroe thats not black.Captain Marvel of the Avengers she's black,the chick with the animal type powers on JLA UNLIMITED ON BOOMERRANG SHE'S BLACK,and there's a few more Beyonce just not the heroe type.I'd like to see the Black Panther or Luke Cage on the big screen just dont try to have me buy Matt Damon as T'Challa....nuff said.
BLADE4040 - 3/25/2009, 11:03 PM
man, if they do a come all casting call for wonder woman... glorious. She can carry her own film. Why the hell not?
Betty - 3/25/2009, 11:07 PM
Bridget Reagen-- nope, ginger kid.
Betty - 3/25/2009, 11:10 PM
Hmmm. That's cool. Bridget Reagen is still my top pick, though I'm sure she'll get overlooked anyways by the film studios.

And I'm NOT opposed to Beyonce taking on WW. Just so long as she gets the character right! If she can deliver WW, then I can't complain!

SpiderMan209 - 3/25/2009, 11:22 PM
The problem with Electra and Catwoman was nothing other than prejudice. Pure and simple. Against women.

Most people of society views women as helpless, frail, needs to be taken care of. The minute a woman is able to do it on her own she's a b*tch. She has to be a lesbian. She think she is all that. If she is not a "damsel in distress" who needs saving then something must be wrong with her. It's BS double standards. Todays most women is strong, independant, decisive can pick up and go just like a man does. When a man fools around, he's the man. If a woman does it she's a whore. In my opinion they are BOTH nasty and losers.

To see a woman like Wonder Woman, Elecktra, Catwoman it doesnt do well because people still think in this way and cant see a woman taking care of biz the way Superman does or Batman. She is ok as a sidekick, as aux support but to make her own movie? no! we need a man to do that. In all these threads whenever it came up to pick a WOnder WOman you could read all the sly remarks and sexist comments from majority of the men. They didnt care if she could act. ITs not like they were going to watch her, she was going to be eye candy. Baser instincts took over. But when most of you spoke about picking the right Thor, Batman, Ironman etc... ahhh..it got all technical. It was all about range, and acting and credibility. No one was talking about who could fill out the groin area out better. Whose pecks were larger. Double standards. It's why the female supeheroes don't do well and not taken seriously. What? Woman can fight too?

Mary Shelly wrote her first novel by 19 years old in 1818.Frankenstein. It was said she was advised to put only initials so that people would assume she was a man. She did and the plan worked and the book was a success! Once people found out it was written by a woman people began to talk smack, the book was critized etc..etc.. Double standards.

The movie GI Jane with Demi Moore. Because her character was a woman no one would take her serious, no one believed she was strong enough physically or mentally. The movie was good but also realistic in how women were treated and thought of in the military. And women still have to keep proving themselves. Whether they are in the military or not women arent immediately thought of as strong till this last 2 decade or three and alot of work is still needed. Woman are always an after thought. She is good to be objectified, good enough to be hot, good enough to be a wife, a mother, a teacher (not that ANYTHING is wrong with that at all!). But we have come a long way. We have become policewoman, military and even run for president but the road has been long and hard. Course having "the girls next door" doesnt help our cause none. Not all girls are bimbos. If that is all they aspire to, more power to them whatever. But when you have those that aspire to be more it's that more harder to achieve it.

And that's why Electra didnt do well or Catwoman. Halle is great, Jennifer is too. Most people think only a man can kick ass, take care of biz and not cry and boohoo when something goes wrong. Double standards.
KeepItReal - 3/25/2009, 11:29 PM
MEAGAN FOX,HER LAST NAME DEFINES HER
GUNSMITH - 3/25/2009, 11:36 PM
"MEAGAN FOX,HER LAST NAME DEFINES HER"

SEE what I mean?
KeepItReal - 3/25/2009, 11:54 PM
BLADE4040-WELL SAID. matt damon as tchalla, lol.
bw - 3/25/2009, 11:58 PM
i liked cat woman and my sister brought it for me for xmas, now ill admit i wasnt at all familar with her batman origins other then that she was a thief and had cat telepathy or something and that stuff was in the movie so i didnt see a problem with the movie. the movie isnt fresh on my mind but maybe the guys that say didnt like it had issues with the cop she was seeing and how it got sensitive? that turned them off? especially for an comic book action flick? halle played a shy unconfident woman and a sexy seductress in the same movie.

i never seen elektra however i cant comment on that lol
but i would watch it

and keepitreal i read your comment and you have valid points with truths in what you say sexism does exist, im a minority also, and can explain several occurrences of how an "ism" effected me. but now if sexism is the reason why elektra and catwoman flopped i can not totally agree with you on that.

however i was in that article about picking thor, you are accusing the general men population here of double standards, every pick that came from a member here was a guy that looked like thor blonde, tall, and muscle bound, i can even recall some guys saying there picks need to be beefed up a lil. so there was guys there talking about pecs and muscles also, so just wanted to clear the air, dont expect a board full of straight guys to talk about how thor fills up his crotch area.

angelina jolie would have to gain some weight to be WW, no one wants to see her ribs and spinal cord, WW is a warrior!

however i want to say HOORAY to the strong independent woman and look forward to a change of how you ladies are viewed in society.

girls next door is retarded btw :)
loganaspatch - 3/26/2009, 12:48 AM
Honestly, I think the reason because Elektra and Catwoman sucked wasn't for double standards, but for their lack of "mystery". Elektra's argument was very simple, and in Catwoman, also a bit silly: Sharon Stone's master plan was getting every single women addicted to her cosmetics, for God's sake.

Until we don't see some real data about WW, all is speculation, but perhaps some of Silver Pictures people read our opinions. Isn't marveleus feeling that your opinion can make things better? I think I'm going to write every week a letter to Silver Pictures to encourage them to start with Wonder Woman, or with the Justice League.
Merinator - 3/26/2009, 3:59 AM
wonder woman lives
spanky - 3/26/2009, 4:54 AM
To: Loganspatch..

"looked like thor blonde, tall, and muscle bound, i can even recall some guys saying there picks need to be beefed up a lil. so there was guys there talking about pecs and muscles also, so just wanted to clear the air,"


Absolutely. I agree. To be Thor he would need those qualifications, he does need to be beeed up. People need to relate to him as the comic book Thor so he needs to look the part. Just like WW needs to look the part. (Tall, athletic, toned, black hair) But no one made those comments about Thor in a SEXUAL way, a debasing way. And that is the difference. Like "it doesnt matter if he cant act...he's HOT!" type of thing like they do with the women superheroes. Women don't go on and say" "Oh! I'd do him in a second!" When it comes to the male super heroes. People are more serious, the tone is less explicit, less sexual and more buisness like, cut and dry, matter of fact.

1) most of the men there are not attracted to the male actors and so can see clearly what the quals need to be and who would best serve them. If they are attracted to the male actor they keep quiet becuz they expect retaliation, gay bashing so...it's keept no nonsense.

2) If it were a woman they were picking for the role the men are less serious for the most part, and turn sexist. Right away it's because "she's hot!"type thing to pick the perfect Wonder Woman or Electra etc...etc...

Merinator: "Elektra's argument was very simple"

Isnt always cuz of something simple? Look at Punisher ...they killed his family he wants revenge. Batman the same thing. Electra was no different, only she was woman. Are women not allowed to get revenge? Want justice?

Same thing with Catwoman... villian wants to take over the world one person at a time. blah, blah, blah. yadayada..

Spanky....YEAH!!!! I hear you!


KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 6:21 AM
Yeah keepitreal, although your points are valid and im sure its certainly true of a lot of men, i think your painting a lot of people with the same brush there. Like was mentioned above, Catwoman and Elektra were just bad movies..theres no 2 ways about it..they failed because they sucked! Elektra Assassin by Frank Miller is one of my favorite graphic novels and i actually really liked Garner as Elektra in Daredevil, so when i heard she was getting a spin off movie i was delighted..thinking of course they would at least partly follow the best solo story that was ever written about her!..But no, of course that would have been too easy so they came up with a cliched, boring, badly scripted load of nonsense. Catwoman was worse, the character was not even based on ANY version of that character from the comic..they actually had the balls to create their own Catwoman..and that wouldnt even have been so bad if they made a decent movie around her but nooooooooo..again,CRAP.

Also as loganspatch pointed out, on the Thor thread there were a lot of dudes discussing his physical attributes! Its actually what people seem to be focused on more than the best actor for the role so i agree with you on that...but in fairness, Im sure you agree whoever plays WW needs to be smokin hot too?
Rorschach01 - 3/26/2009, 6:30 AM
I would love to see beyonce as Wonder Woman, She got the Body. From the top pic of Wonder Woman, beyonce looks just like her
RecoSwaVa - 3/26/2009, 6:54 AM
I agree that Halle Berry shouldn't be in anymore comic book movies. But I would take her as Storm any day over her Catwoman. That movie was a [frick]ing joke.

As for Wonder Woman, I guess I could drag myself to watch it if Angelina Jolie got the part. But she would have to put on some weight. Her arms are so damn skinny, it's scary. Oh, and she'd probably screw someone in the movie too. I think the last movie where she didn't was Kung Fu Panda, and that just would have been wrong.

RecoSwaVa said: "I would love to see beyonce as Wonder Woman, She got the Body. From the top pic of Wonder Woman, beyonce looks just like her"

You can't be serious... The idea of Beyonce playing an Amazonian princess, (who resembles a WHITE brunette) is nothing short of laughable. Judging from your picture, you probably like the Dragon Ball movie too, huh?
BmanHall - 3/26/2009, 7:24 AM
BEYONCE!!!YES!!!
That movie needs Beyonce
RecoSwaVa - 3/26/2009, 7:30 AM
Keepitreal- I'm very disapointed in you young lady!!! However, I will have to thank you for coming up with the best possible pic for WW which is Jody Lynn O'Keefe!!! If anybody here can post an image of her on here, DO IT!!!

NOW... as for the "perception" of women is concerned, here are powerfull women that came through with very much success, "not sucking" wheither they were HOT or NOT:

Angelina Joly- Tomb Raider
Sigourney Weaver- Aliens
Kate Beckinsale- Underworld
Rhona Mitra- Doomsday
Peta Wilson- La femme Nikita
Jennifer Garner- Alias
Julia Roberts- Erin Brocovich
Milla Jovovich- Ultraviolet/resident evil
Cynthia Rothrock- anything she ever did
Helen Slater- Supergirl
Elizabeth Berkley- Showgirls
Lucy Liu- Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever
Ziyi Zhang- Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Yukie Nakama- Shinobi: Heart Under Blade

And the list goes on... It has nothing to do with being a woman, has to do with ACTING and WRITING. Do you even realise just how HOT Halle Berry is??? Well it sure as hell didn't compansate for her bad acting in X-men.

As for your example of GI JANE, you honestly saw a problem with how men thought of women in any armed forces or law enforcement agency??? You're upset that women have to prove themselves over and over and over again? I for one am not. You do realise that it is a woman's job as much as any man in the army to let a fellow soldier put his very life in her hands. And also put her life in someone else's hands. Well NATURALLY, she has to prove that she has that capacity. It has nothing to do with having a vagina. It has to do with physical ability. What, you think they accept just anybody in the army or police, provided they have a penis??? Sorry sister, reality is that EVERY MAN has to prove themselves just as much as any WOMAN. That often REQUIRES you to carry someone on your shoulders. Being able to do that or not is what determines if someone dies or not. The fact that more men pass these physically chalenging tests then women is just "tough shit", reality's a bitch. I for one, am very happy that women CHOOSE to step in line with men and enroll as they have the right to! But i wanna be damn sure that my children's safety is not compromised by these agencies accepting women just because they cried to get equal rights. Every soldier or officer NEEDS to be able to go "toe to toe" with 300lbs men on the feild of battle or on the streets weither they have a vagina or not!

You do also realise that Wonder Woman never needed anyone to save her yet she always has been one of the most popular characters in comic book history. So her movie will have a chance of success but it will depend on if the lead can actually ACT and if the script is decently written. As for your THOR comment, you were a part of that debate yourself, how could you put everyone in the same boat as you just did? You know damn well that ALOT of us have been repeating ourselves stating how wrong HHH would be for the role despite him having the only "right" look and build for the job. MOST of us prefer talent over muscle! And how you can think that MEN only like women in power that are sexy, that is very shallow of yourself. Have you ever compared "strip joints"? When men go see strippers, they sit down, enjoy a beer and look at the show. When women go see male strippers, THEY GO [frick]ING NUTTS!!! Women treat men like meat on a stick even more than what men do. But reality is that men have the balls to admit they're attraction where as women think it's taboo to say that they enjoy looking at cocks. So they do it secretly amongst themselves. Why do you think that when a woman is heard having an affair, she's concidered a slut? Because it's freakin UNHEARD of. What else are we to think. If every single thing women did wrong were actually made public, we wouldn't be calling the huge majority of women "sluts", we'd eventually accept that the times have changed and move on with our lives as we really have bigger fish to fry than to waste valuable time accusing women left and right of being sluts.

Hope we can still be friends :))
Shaman - 3/26/2009, 8:38 AM
KeepItReal

um, i have commented before about the sexuality of thor. Or i guess i should say hypersexuality that stars can achieve. People were trying to argue triple H for the role of thor. For thor to be successful, I believe the majority of the female population has to want to have sex him. Or at least entertain the thought. Tripple h is not this guy. Not hot enough.

Also, when a guy on here is discussing a possible candidate's physique, saying that he's not built enough=they want someone hotter.

Why do you think they want brad pitt for every roll?
Betty - 3/26/2009, 8:50 AM
@keepitreal: "Women don't go on and say" "Oh! I'd do him in a second!""
You're speaking for yourself sweetie, the guys from Smallville and Christian Bale would totally make that list for me (then again I did love him before Batman.. mmm.. Christian Bale...)
ComicChic - 3/26/2009, 8:57 AM
I can also appreciate the smokin' hotness of Megan Fox.
ComicChic - 3/26/2009, 9:05 AM
As i can fully admit that despite her smoking hotness, she sure as hell isn't FIT for every single role in existance.
Shaman - 3/26/2009, 9:07 AM
Betty said: "Why do you think they want brad pitt for every roll?"

Thank you... I didn't have to be the one to say it.

ComicChic said: "I can also appreciate the smokin' hotness of Megan Fox."

I think that statement coming from another girl is smokin' hotness.
BmanHall - 3/26/2009, 9:08 AM
megan fox IS hot but she's too skinny to be WW.. diana has to be a little buff, not madonna-buff just a little physically imposing you know..

i just hope they do the "superhuman amazon from themyscira" version, not the "chick learns kung-fu then fights crime"..

and please no invisible jet.. that just seemed to ridiculous for me, even as a kid..
MCMLXXXII - 3/26/2009, 9:29 AM
OMG! what an attack! no... you guys dont seem to realize I said MOST men. I did not say all men or just men. I said most people. I have never seen a male strippers so I dont know about that, I never seen that except if it was a movie like Bachelor party.

I dont think the Electra movie was bad. I dont think Catwoman was all that bad either (except the special effects) but if it couldve had a better writer, better acting why didnt it? Did someone not take it serious enough? Or did whomever cast it just pick hot women and THOUGHT that would be enough for it? I thought Electra was great, the acting...I liked it. People say it bombed because she wasnt true to the comic. Maybe so. I dk the comic only the movie. But if that is the case dont make the same mistake with Wonder Woman, learn from it before history repeats itself.

Yes all the others women were GREAT I agree with you with the exception of Showgirls and Elizabeth Berkley- SHAME ON YOU for adding it to the list!That movie was horrible and degrading! I didnt say all women, didnt say all men, didnt say all movies. I said most... you put it as all.

I AM former military! I was in service during the time of the Gulf War! And I did see FIRST HAND the struggle and I still keep in touch with the military friends and they still have to fight to get the respect. If they dont get it they have to take it. I do realise MORE THAN YOU KNOW from a womens prospective. I do know they have to prove they have the "capacity" it's only right but just GETTING THERE was a test in itself so that others can FOLLOW! Someone had to be first, it had to be recorded so those women can go to war and fight. Common Shaman, you seem the type of person that a person has to prove themselves to you if not they are an idiot in your opinion. Same with women in military. They will see you, test you, push you and see how far and hard you will push back. I KNOW. If not they will walk all over you. If a women comes to the war with you a guy is going to be saying "Oh God! This chick is my partner? she doesnt even look like she can carry her gear" with just one look at you never mind she had the same training as he did & his attitude wont change UNTIL SHE PROVES OTHERWISE. Yet, if its a male people will wait and see and give him the benefit of the doubt he's good.

Yes, reality is a bitch and so is carma. I agree physically MOST women CANT do what you say.They have to go toe to toe. Absolutely! 100%. They cant pass the test, they dont get in, end of story. ANd the instructor should not be pressured into passing a women to meet the quota for women to be PC. BUt the women who do pass, that 1% or what is it now alot higher...should they have to suffer for the ones who F*CKEd it up for them? Should they be called butch? B*tch? It's not necessary. You misunderstand me. I am talking about giving credit where credit is due.Im talking about what ever law enforcement they cnt let their guard down for a sec least someone should think them weak. A guy would just be having a bad day.

Shallow? I have never been called that before! I am not shallow. SOME women are sluts as much as men are. Some women carry themselves with pride and respect like some men do. True about everyone.

You know how I feel about Wonder Woman. Enough said.

Thor, yes I was there. AND NO ONE SAID ANYTHING SEXUAL. I was talking about his physical attributes. Funny how that worked. No one said, "I'd f*ck him". They talked about his looks and his demeanor as it should have been with NO SEXUAL OVERTONES.how he needs to be tall, built, strong, good actor, blonde to RELATE to him as Thor from the comics. Not like they do for Wonder Woman. I am disappointed you thought this of me. I was there and it was kept clean. If they said WW needs to be a body builder, or athletic, tall, short, etc,,, etc... ok. But when they start saying "Who cares if she can act, she's eye candy" with Megan Gale and alot of others then you're not taking it serious, you're not dicussing her the way you are about Thor. No one said Thor was eye candy. Why does no one understand. AND I did not say ALL of you and especially not YOU Shaman. I said MOST. meaning there are those who dont do that like you, Myth, BadLogan, Merinator and some others whose opinions I respect.

It's "unheard of" because SOCIETY from back then and the church said it was wrong for women to be open about it as men are. So when most woman express themselves they hold back due to their upbringing imposed by the male figure and enforced by the church & mom & family because it's how they were taught as well. MOST PEOPLE, not all. I cnt under stand about the strip joint cuz I never been to one myself...so whatever.

BUT I DID NOT SAY EVERYONE...I said MOST or majority but never you. You should hve known you or bad logan were never included for reasons I already stated.

This is a forum... course we still friends. =)
KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 9:30 AM
to comic chick... it's true! I would be embarrassed to say something like that... but i have said Megan Foxx is beautiful.
KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 9:32 AM
Well i certainly didn't mean to "attack" you or hurt you in any way, it actually felt more of a "defence" than an "offence" :)

You see, you make comments about the "old days" and "back then" but we are no longer in them. Women have obviously faught incredibly hard to get where they are now. But they succeeded, so why complain? You said it yourself that you served in the gulf war and had to fight hard to have the opportunity to, so that others could follow. But now they can, so why complain? What would you think of hearing an olympic gold medal winners complain of how hard they had to fight to acheive it? You'd obviously be saying "why are they bitching, they won the medal?". I know it sounds as if i was saying that prejudice doesn't exist anymore but i'm fully aware that they still do. They just no longer have an impact. Who cares if someone tries to push them down? They now have the RIGHT to push back and damn well should!!! If i was a woman in the army today and my commanding officer was pushing me down because of it, this is how it would go:

-Permission to speak sir!
-Go ahead private!
-With all due respect sir, i'm as competent as any other soldier so [frick] you sir!
-DROP AND GIVE ME 50!!!

And i would, saying "[frick] you sir, [frick] you sir, [frick] you sir" at every pump!!! He'll dismiss me and i'd have him in a court martial for prejudice. Now you might say that it's not always that simple or that we don't always have that choice when in fact... YES you do. It's only a matter of perception. Even though i am a caucasion male, i also had to go through my fair share of abuse of power. And i speak from experience when i say that they always walk all over you UNTIL you show them just how hard you can push back. Then all of a sudden, they act like the big dog following and jumping over the small one in the "kibbles and bits" commercial. It's how things work, everyone needs to show some back bone weither they're in the minority or not. You say we shouldn't refer to women that do pass these tests as "butch" but if we men fail these tests, we're concidered fags, sissies, panzies and we're pointed the finger at way much more than women. I'd prefer being a butch dike that "can be all she can be" than being imposed the feeling of not deserving my penis and not having the right to stand up to take a piss.

As for Elektra, the acting was decent in regards to Jennifer Garner but the rest was actually not worth mentionning. The script was the major flaw as it was not in the same league as the comics. The origin was okay but the follow up sucked. I had expected more competent ninjas comming directly from "The Hand". The ending was the worst ever until Ghost Rider showed up on screen to beat it. I honestly don't know who actually "said" that it failled because a woman kicked butt, i can certainly say that it's a retarded point of view. Anyone that said that, should be shot in the face as a woman's physical prowess has nothing to do with the success of a film.

Showgirls is a perfect example of an everyday life woman that aspires to more than what she was dealt and the fighting she had to endure in our harsh world to acquire it. If i'm not mistaken, it WAS based on a true story. You might find her profession "degrading" but the movie wasn't. I never could see how women can complain and say that a movie that shows bare chested women is degrading but they were the first in line to drool over Van Damme's ass or Hugh Jackman's chest. Men ARE equally degraded but we just don't see the point in complaining about it. Your "illusion" of how women are perfect and men were flawed IS what i feel could have been concidered shallow from your previous statement. I'm glad to see you say that "Women are sluts as much as men are". Because THAT is the truth. Women just never talk about it openly but do it just as often as men. Where a man is arogant, a woman is hypocrit. One brags about it, the other hides it. And mark my words, if in our near futur we ever get to notice women becoming as arogant as men, no one will think of an adulterous woman as a slut. It will become second nature.

As for THOR, weren't you the one that publicly admitted that a certain actor was hot? there was no shame in that. Why complain that men are doing it? We're just honest. YES I WOULD [frick] THE HELL OUT OF MEGAN FOX!!! Doesn't mean i would give her any role she wanted. She has to be fit for it just as any other male actor has to be fit for any other male role. We love it when you girls say that that guy is so hot and that you're drooling over him, hell it makes us want to BE him LOL Best example is of course Shibazz. She does it all the time saying she'd be squirting over Eva Mendez's rack... okay, maybe not a perfect example but i wouldn't mind if she felt like squirting on Dane Cook (which i'm sure she won't) but the last thing i would call her is a SLUT! I find it refreshing that she can express herself and doesn't give a shit whatever other people think of her. I mean, we are MOSTLY men on here talking about who could play Thor, OF COURSE we won't say "Oh yeah, i would so [frick] Gerard Buttler while he sticks his hammer up my valhalah", but we wouldn't mind if you did and we sure as hell wouldn't be calling you a slut.

Now i'm glad we can still be friends and by all means, don't hold back anymore. We're no longer in the "bad ol' days", so as the fat guy in Jason vs. Freddie said "Let your freak flag fly"!!! And that goes for all you comic book chicks!!! :))
Shaman - 3/26/2009, 10:57 AM
Well, it's been a while. I still say that Elektra's argument was simple, or should I say that I have seen it so many times?

Anyway, first things first:

KeepItReal, I think you have the longest speech record in this forum :)

Shaman, you requested an image from Jody Lynn O'Keefe, and here it is (copyrights and all that belongs to their respective ownners):

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If anyone can do a little photoshop with this, please do it so we can see something more tangible.

I also have found these photos of Alana de la Garza as Wonder Woman:

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and this fan-made teaser poster:

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I hope everyone have enough pictures for one day :)
Merinator - 3/26/2009, 11:17 AM
Thank you Merinator, much oblige :))

I'd love for someone to photoshop Jody Lynn as Wonder Woman!!! :))
Shaman - 3/26/2009, 11:27 AM
And one other thing about Elektra's argument: most of superheros have a very simple argument in content, but that doesn't involve they can be complex in form. I love those stories with subplots, parallel stories which made a different film by his own, though since the beginning you know what is all about.

Moreover, the plot based in revenge and the main character(deceived) is trying to kill someone innocent is nothing new.
Merinator - 3/26/2009, 11:29 AM
You're welcome Mr. Shaman, now we will see what does KeepItReal think about them.
Merinator - 3/26/2009, 11:31 AM
Shaman I am not complaining, but stating a fact. And just because we have achieved so much doesnt mean we stop there- we keep going. We dont get complacent cuz we moved an inch or two. You think military stop being like this with women because women have gotten so far? You think it has stopped? Maybe it's not as noticeable as before but it's still there. But like you said you keep going forward.

The old days and before... is how we understand today and do not allow prejudice to happen again.

I was talking about the Prince of Persia and I was trying to prove a point that either no one got or ignored. I also said it was weird saying it.

I want this movie to be taken SERIOUSLY and not as a joke.. I have often appreciated another womans beauty and said so. How many times I have not said so n so is beautiful? or pretty? I do not speak like that (hot and freaky) because that is not me, more power to Shibazz.. I AM NOT KNOCKING ANYONE! It just mkes me think when I hear things like that they are not taking it as serious. You know how I feel about Wonder Woman.

"Where a man is arogant, a woman is hypocrit. One brags about it, the other hides it." Who taught women to do that? Men. From fear of punishment, rejection, etc..

I said MOST...NOT EVERYONE!!!! AND I dont allude that women are perfect and men are flawed..didnt I say SOME women are as much sluts as men are? so obviously I dont think women are perfect...How can you use that for your same arguement? it negates itself?

I dont consider myself to be a hypocrit. I always stand by what i say & try to remain true. I think maybe alot of PEOPLE or most but not all are hypocrits.

"why do I complain when men do it?" because I dont want Wonder Woman to be a JOKE!!! We Will agree to disagree.

So now its over... gotta love it where you can say what you want and still be friends.... =:)
KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 12:28 PM
another thing us guys gotta get to know a girl before she will open up and mention who she thinks is hot and who she will bang, give her a couple hours to get comfortable with you and boom! someone touched on the subject already that us men are just more open about our desires who knows who is to blame for that we are just wired differently in science and just how we are brought up from lil children.

another thing (not a fabricated story) just the other night i was talking to a friend and she called another guy a manwhore whether or not this guy knows he is and embraces that fact idk, but there are SOME women that enjoy being admired and the fact that they could possibly get any guy they wanted.

i feel its up to us as individuals to not give into these type's, girls! stop [frick]ing these manwhores and guys stop being so nice and backboneless to these women WHO you know are maneaters

-but these are social problems :) not comicbookmovie issues so can we get back to that

other then the skin color beyonce looks like how WonderWoman is drawn, someone photoshop some fair skin on her and see if im lieing. not that im saying she should be, and i would not be disappointed if she were


but

that pic of Jody Lynn O'Keefe that merinator posted is my favorite so far

- just a sidenote in the comics, and the jl cartoon does WW have a thing for Batman?
loganaspatch - 3/26/2009, 12:36 PM
"So now its over... gotta love it where you can say what you want and still be friends.... =:)"

Well why not? :) It's not like we're going at each others throats LOL :P

And for the reccord, i never want for ANY comic book movie to be a joke but apparently, execs don't think like us. I was very excited about GhostRider finally going on the big screen, but that also turned into a joke. i though it wasn't "bad" but in no way did it do justice to the character and his story. So i'm on board with you Keepitreal, i want a genuine WW movie that is actually worth watching.

But eh... why keep going? I mean, women have won much deserved respect and the rest of the men that seem retarded will come along shortly after noticing just how alone they are in they're old way of thinking. I understand that men created the fear back then but nowadays women are the ones clinging on to that fear like a safety blanket. If every woman would let go at the same time, they'd see they were affraid for nothing, that there is no monster in the closet.

"I said MOST...NOT EVERYONE!!!! AND I dont allude that women are perfect and men are flawed..didnt I say SOME women are as much sluts as men are? so obviously I dont think women are perfect...How can you use that for your same arguement? it negates itself? "

LOL, actually you said that in your second comment but i was commenting on your first LOL This is what i said:

"Your "illusion" of how women are perfect and men were flawed IS what i feel could have been concidered shallow from your "previous statement". I'm GLAD TO SEE you say that "Women are sluts as much as men are". Because THAT is the truth."

My point was that what you said about most men could also be said about MOST women. BUT men brag and women lie (because of the fear). I never said YOU were a hypocrit LOL :P

All in good fun :))

Yeah loganaspatch, isn't Jody Lynn O'Keefe just made for that role??? She's like WW incarnate :))
Shaman - 3/26/2009, 1:14 PM
BEYONCE SHOULD NOT PLAY WONDER WOMAN! PERIOD!
ladsonb190 - 3/26/2009, 1:39 PM
"SOME women are as much sluts as men are?"

I was in a hurry to get my son from school.. I corrected myself about the same time you posted. And I have been saying most since before you came on but whatever...

"I never said YOU were a hypocrit LOL " thank you =:)

Now you are being condescending (gg) about "If every woman would let go at the same time"... And some women dont lie out of fear (that could be true of anyone), they lie cuz like some men it's their nature.

Alright! Now we need Wonder WOmans golden lasso!

Like you say...all in good fun... :)) now lets get to work and get Jody in as Wonder Woman!!!!

Ladsonb190.... I hear you... She is UNIDENTIFIABLE as Wonder Woman!! She simply will not do.
KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 2:25 PM
I didn't think at first that Jody Lynn O'Keefe could be appropiate, she reminds me of Gretchen (I hate that character). But we shouldn't type-cast anyone, see what has happened with Kevin Sorbo.

Also, what do you think of Alana de la Garza with the tiara, KeeepItReal?
Merinator - 3/26/2009, 4:18 PM
I have some "fresh" new ideas:

http://forums.superherohype.com/archive/index.php/t-67667-p-21.html
Merinator - 3/26/2009, 4:34 PM
I really enjoyed the battle of the sexes between Shaman and KeepItReal. As an outsider, lemme tell you both congrats on maintaining a level of maturity as well as you both have great points.

@Shaman: "When men go see strippers, they sit down, enjoy a beer and look at the show. When women go see male strippers, THEY GO [frick]ING NUTTS!!! Women treat men like meat on a stick even more than what men do." While I have never been with any female to a male strip club, lol, I have seen the what happens when they're inhibitions are finally shed. Men are more open with our carnal desires than women are and because of our lack of reservation, we honestly have a higher level of control over it. In all the marriages I've seen go up in smoke with people my age, 80% of the time the woman cheated. What would be odd, was some of these former couples had been together for several years without incident. Next thing I know a friend is calling me drunk telling me how their sex-life went downhill and he just caught her with some stranger in their bed. IMHO, it's because of the reservations they keep that cause events like these to catalyze. I had one friend who actually hid a camera in the closetcovered up and aimed at the bed. After a few uneventful reviews, he finally caught her on tape with the neighbor, and saying some of the freakiest shit I ever heard. This girl NEVER acted like that around him or any of his friends, she was quiet and reserved. He said he never suspected a thing until he caught her talking to the neighbor a little to friendly like one day. Just an example that reinforces the difference percieved between men and women in regards to addressing our needs. Mind this doesn't in anyway imply that all women are this way, and the example cited may just be a result of how [frick]ed up people are in my neck of the woods.

@KeepItReal: There is a double-standard help on many aspects of this debate. To help explain what I stated above and reassert my indifference I'll use this statement, "When a man fools around, he's the man. If a woman does it she's a whore. In my opinion they are BOTH nasty and losers." Your right, partly, it's unfair. Whereas I don't think of them as nasty losers, rather "squirrels gettin' nuts" Sex is natural and so is a desire for it. A woman is neither a whore or nasty because she choose's a single life so she is free to have multiple partners. Starts getting nasty when animals, bodily waste, and homosexual(just cause that particular one ain't my bag, baby, yeah!) stuff gets involved. I enjoyed my single days of 'cattin around' and trying for a new girl every night, and now I enjoy sleeping with the same one, every night. I was the only boy of 3 siblings raised by a single mom. All my cousins are female, I grew up alone in a sea of estrogen. So, for me it's a bit easier to be less biased and more accepting of the differences between the sexes, regardless of how distasteful or unpleasant I or anyone felt it to be.

Casting an actress with large chesticles won't cause this movie to be taken less seriously. Wonder Woman is statuesque in her beauty. Her breasts are large, her waist is thin, and her face a symmetrical masterpiece. Is this all that defines her? No. But it's only fitting an actress look the part as well as be able to play it.
TheMyth - 3/26/2009, 4:44 PM
Wow! Folks is trippin yo, calm down girl, you should be a politician or something.

WW can be black, Look at Nick Fury, IDK why people keep sayin she cant be black, Beyonce looks more exotic island than any of those other women. She aint 100% no way. More like 30 to 40%, black i mean. She is mostly Indian which is very close to Pacific Islander which is close to WW. Just had to let yall know!!

Angelina wanna prove she's a dedicated actress, she'll gain 20 lbs of muscle and play WW.

WW is the Superman of all female lead roles. Comicbook movies boom! Women are gonna fight over this role, watch.
Galvatron - 3/26/2009, 4:54 PM
To: Myth..

"Casting an actress with large chesticles won't cause this movie to be taken less seriously. Wonder Woman is statuesque in her beauty. Her breasts are large, her waist is thin, and her face a symmetrical masterpiece. Is this all that defines her? No. But it's only fitting an actress look the part as well as be able to play it."

Touche... well said... I totally agree with making Wonder Woman to look like she is in the comics in all aspects. Symmetrical and all. It has been my argument that THE ACTRESS have her look to a "T" and can act, fight too.

"A woman is neither a whore or nasty because she choose's a single life so she is free to have multiple partners"

Absolutely. But I didnt mean if they were single...I mean "fooled around" as in cheating when they are with someone.

"This girl NEVER acted like that around him or any of his friends, she was quiet and reserved"... then she flipped out. Not all reserved people have this problem! gg..



KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 5:10 PM
WW CANNOT be black and Nick Fury is not a good example. Beyonce is not helping your cause either. She is of Creole (African-American, Native American, and French) descent. Wonder Woman is of Greek mythology and descent. Not of African american, french, and native american.

What does Bey have to recommend her to be WW? In what way do you relate to Bey as WW?

1) She can't act.

2) Thinks fighting is like dancing

3) She is only 5' 6¼" (1.68 m), WW is 5'11-6'0

4) She is black, Wonder Woman is not

5) Bey has brown eyes, not sparkling blue. To put contacts on would only be cheesy like Jessica Alba in Fantastic Four

Wonder Woman doesnt beg she commands. Bey doesnt understand what it is 2 b WW so how can she portray her on the screen when you have others vastly more qualified? There is no shortage of actresses who look more like WW & have the right quals. MEgan Gale, Jody Lynn O'kefee, Ivana Milicevic to name a few.

Yes, Bey is beautiful, talented as a singer & dancer, is married to JayZ but that alone shouldnt be the deciding factor to make her "WW".

Our Wonder Woman that we all relate to from the comics and TV would become UNIDENTIFIABLE.
KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 5:17 PM
"yo, calm down girl, you should be a politician or something."

Why do I have to calm down? Why didnt you address the other parties involved? hmmmm.... =:)

To Merinator...

"Also, what do you think of Alana de la Garza with the tiara, KeeepItReal?" I think she is beautiful.
KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 5:25 PM
I think a woman that is unattractive should play WW. One that is even a little frumpy, yet is really strong and athletic. Looks don't matter. Furthermore, I think she should give long-in-the-tooth speeches espousing a fruitless feminnine doctrine right before she cold cocks the villian (preferably, an average guy that stared longer than 3 seconds at the beautiful form of the opposite sex). In addition to these things, instead of an invisible jet, an invisible Honda motorcycle.

That's the formula for sucksess!

Because, after all is said, men and women are the same, right?

Hmmm...I don't know about that.

What I do know for sure is that I don't want Beyonce or Angelina. They are DEFINITELY not right for the part. The women's photos posted above certainly have the face for it, but I haven't seen them perform in anything. I would want her to tone up much like Linda Hamilton in T2, and even add a "little" more muscle.
As far as story goes, the modern treatment given to JLU TAS was good as well as the recent release of the straight to dvd feature length animated film. However, I would tighten up the story than that of feature-length animated film. It had some gaping holes and errors in story continuity. I love and read Wonder Woman comics! I don't deny it. But that doesn't mean i uphold the espoused philosophy and dogmas of her character. I enjoy the conflict it brings to her being in "man's (or the "patriarchs")world," and the struggle she has in coming to terms with adapting HER ideals with and amongst a different world than that of her own. She copes with it in stride and grace. Aside from that, the occasional face bashing with her boot to the head is a must! Lines like, "You stupid little man," are classic (From JLU, TAS)! That must be included in a live action...
Did I mention, the actress that plays her has to be tall...like at least 6ft tall. Or at least portrayed that way. She is an Amazon after all. She must speak as a dignitary. Perhaps a British accent would be appropriate.
Phinehas - 3/26/2009, 5:40 PM
ALso, "the Pacific Islander which is close to WW."

The Pacific is where Hawaii is...Wonder WOman lives on Paradise Island in the Bermuda Triangle... The Caribbean. The Bermuda Triangle being from tip of Florda, Puerto Rico, and Bermuda. So no it's not close. Just had to let you know!!
KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 5:42 PM
If you are going to mock me.... get it right... I never said women and men are the same or equal in every way (physically) only that women should be given more respect. Recognise.

"She must speak as a dignitary perhaps a British accent would be appropriate."

Considering she is greek maybe a greek accent would be better suited than a british one.

"What I do know for sure is that I don't want Beyonce or Angelina." at least I can agree with you on one thing.

"I would tighten up the story than that of feature-length animated film. It had some gaping holes and errors in story continuity."

OK...two things we agree on.

KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 5:49 PM
@ keep it real, Have you seen carribean women before? Didn't think so, i was in the navy and beyonce looks just like a dominican or puerto rico

So get a greek lady not a white lady! Keep it Real

by the way, i said my first pick would be Jolie with 20 lbs of muscle added to her frame
Galvatron - 3/26/2009, 5:55 PM
Galvatron... I AM PUERTO RICAN!!!!!

And I was in the navy too out of Jacksonville, Fl so I KNOW what I am talking about.

"Didn't think so," see what you got for your thinking!

KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 6:00 PM
You were in the Navy and didnt know where the Pacific was? hmmmm...
KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 6:02 PM
Keep it real, why are you so hostile? you r gonna say a white lady should play WW when WW aint even white.
Galvatron - 3/26/2009, 6:02 PM
I am not hostile... really. I apologise.

I am saying that Wonder Woman should be portrayed on the big screen in the same way that she has been depicted in the comics, on the tv show and in the memories of all the fans that grew up with her. It's nothing personal against Bey, only I dont believe IMHO this is the superhero for her for reasons stated.

If you say someone like: Storm, Vixen, Misty Knight, Captain Marvel/Photon/Pulsar, Nu'bia then we can talk and I will consider.
KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 6:06 PM
I think my mockery was spot on! I don't feel it necessary to carry on an explanation. My justifications are strewn throughout this post. I mean the first post, come on! You explain Elektra's and CatWoman's flop on prejudice on women??? ROFLOL!!!

Repect meter? Very low.

"Considering she is greek maybe a greek accent would be better suited than a british one."

Well, considering that she is truly a grecian from an era long before British coloniZation, her having an accent at all would be just as ludicrous. If we suspend disbelief here and include a knowledge of the English language, I would include with my liberties (still thinking about this one), a British accent to purvey her royal class. Though I haven't completely abandoned the idea of a greek accent, it just may be too lengthy of an explanation on why she would know English in the first place. I have my own personal ideas on how to explain this one.
Phinehas - 3/26/2009, 6:08 PM
@ KEEP IT REAL, I decomishioned the USS John Rodgers DD-983 in 1998 out of Mayport Fl before reportint to the USS Mount Whitney, LCC-20 out of Norfolk, I was Honorably discharged an awarded a Nato medal for Kosovo Operation. Don't ever even think I'm one of these goofball kids that gotta lie about everything. I didnt know where WW was livin, I know where the pacific is at even though both my naval cruises we Meds.


SHIPMATE!!!!!
Galvatron - 3/26/2009, 6:08 PM
Instead of the pacific, uh, howabout the Mediteranean? Or, the Adriatic? Or, even the Black sea as the ORIGINAl story has them!!!! You guys are in the wrong flipping hemisphere! So the point is moot and you are hot-headed for naught. She's closer to an Eastern european (black hair, blue eyes), with a POSSIBILITY of a olive-tone skin complextion. Angie Harmon was my choice years ago(as was Kathryn Zeta Jones). She is now too old, IMO.
Phinehas - 3/26/2009, 6:18 PM
All I'm sayin is if we gonna get a white lady to play someone who aint white, can't we also consider a black lady to play someone who aint black either,


@ Keep it real, i was sayin Jolie anyway

DUH....SHIPMATE!!!
Galvatron - 3/26/2009, 6:19 PM
Also, I must add, there is no such thing as "black or white." We are all actually the same color. Just different shades of the same. Some have more melanin, some less. What there are that are real, are people groups, and the features that are commonly attributed to them. The Greek nations are more closely resembling the european peoples than that of the African continent just south.

Yes, despite all the trading and intermingling amongst them. And, as I have said, the Plato has Amazons closer to Scythia (Georgia), rather than the Greek regions and islands as modern interpretations would place them.
Phinehas - 3/26/2009, 6:28 PM
Again... I apologise. Much respect to you. Honestly and truthfully.

You were a black shoe, I was a brown shoe. I was with the VP squadrons based out of FL but deployed to Iceland, Germany, Bermuda.... I also was honorably discharged.

I was having fun with you but you took it serious and I dont want this to be negative. I want to have fun. cool?


"Repect meter? Very low." Like I need or req it from you.

"it just may be too lengthy of an explanation on why she would know English in the first place."

I understand where you're coming from and what your saying but even if you went that route that english wouldnt be understood in modern day times. She would learn from Boudicca, a Warrior Queen from the Iceni tribe perhaps? But I would like to know how you would get that rolling to pull it off in all honesty.. Interesting.. But WOnder Woman lived in America for some time now and that english accent would be diluted.
But what would I know right?

KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 6:29 PM
@Keep it real, It's cool I only took offense when you suggested I was never in the Navy. I take Tremendous pride in my service as I am sure you do.


We good tho, Shipmate!!!
Galvatron - 3/26/2009, 6:39 PM
To: Galvagtron... Dude I am trying but you are making it hard.

"WW can be black, Look at Nick Fury, IDK why people keep sayin she cant be black, Beyonce looks more exotic island than any of those other women. She aint 100% no way. More like 30 to 40%, black i mean. She is mostly Indian which is very close to Pacific Islander which is close to WW. Just had to let yall know!! "

This is what I was replying to. As far as Angelina Jolie you added that AFTER the fact, SHIPMATE.

And Wonder Woman Amazons was from ancient former city state of Themyscira (fictional). It was destroyed and later abandoned after the arrival of the demi-god Heracles. When the Amazons lose favor with their gods they are given immortality and sent to a far away island. Beginning in a parted Aegean Sea, it takes three months before the Amazons arrive at the hidden Paradise Island, later retitling it "Themyscira" after their fallen home. I think I know where is at and am familiar with the story. If people didnt know where the Bermuda triangle was how would they know this?
KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 6:40 PM
We good tho, Shipmate!!! Aye, aye!.. you guys are too fast!! I have a 2 year old!!!! LOL... =:)
KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 6:42 PM
Boudicca is an excellent idea to toy with, but she didn't go near Greece, nor does it explain how the Amazons got to her. I like that premise though. She could play the conduit between the Amazons and attaining knowledge from "man's world". I like it, thanks, KIR!

"Repect meter? Very low." Like I need or req it from you.

True! And no woman does (or should)...
But your rants throughout this post are replete with a bitter demand to have men respect women. It won't happen, ever. It is part of our broken system, and you will live a life without satisfaction. No matter how hard you strive, kick, and scream to reach this unattainable goal.

But isn't that the point of Hipollyta's seclusion? I think I am seeing your passion for WW realiZed.

"But WOnder Woman lived in America for some time now and that english accent would be diluted."

Well, with an origin story, it would be her first time here. Or meeting Steve Rogers for that matter. I would have a third to half the film in Themiscyria to explain most of these questions.

I see (and know) many Brits that had moved to the US and lived here many (decades) years. The accent is alive well.

But what would I know right?

Bitter. Very bitter.
Phinehas - 3/26/2009, 6:51 PM
Michelle Rodrigez, what do you guys think about her, shes tough, she can act, and she's gorgeous.......Guys, and lady
Galvatron - 3/26/2009, 6:56 PM
KeepItReal...

I'm guessing you have a tendency to be one of those raving feminists?... I mean...

You think that Catwoman was a flop because Hollywood didn't want to portray a strong female character? or audiences didn't care to see a strong female character?... both arguments are so wrong I don't even know how to start.

As Shaman pointed out, strong female characters have existed in hollywood, wether as strong actresses or as strong characters in a movie. Catwoman was just bad and looked as if no one cared for the final product, the acting, the story, the effects were horrible, and if it's because some stupid execs don't want to have strong female characters so they can gloat in their chauvinistic beliefs... well then the actresses are as much to blame for taking up those stupid roles in a crappy production in the first place.

Now that extra sensitivity feminist or women with feminist tendencies have has always bothered me. I don't disrespect or treat people differently for whatever their belief, race, sex, sexuality, nationality, etc. And I have two sisters (one younger one older), I was raised in the middle of them so I learned to respect women very early, however if some hot lady decides to wear a revealing outfit, I will look at her and enjoy the view (after all that is what she's wearing it for).

Now some women keep on fighting for their rights, but guess what... some women don't give a rat's ass about it (mostly in third world countries), they find it way more comfortable and "safe" to remain as the housewife who has to mind the children, can't work, has to have the meals ready, has to clean the house and thinks that the beating her couple gives her every week is just his way of expressing love to her, that is sad but true. I think it all comes down to decissions, all you can do is show the possible choices she can make, but it is up to her to decide for herself what she wants (and they'd probably surprise you).

With that out of the way, let's be honest WW probably won't be an Oscar giving performance, and if acting was that important then Meryl Streep or Kate Winslet would have to be WW. Most fans care about a decent performance, which most actresses can give (unless it's Hale Berry in a comic book movie) and of course if the actress looks hot that will just help this movie, since people tend to prefer aesthetic things. (I'm possitive no one wants to see Merryl Streep in a WW outfit).

Now I will say it again, Angelina... meh, Beyonce... ugh.
NoobMike - 3/26/2009, 6:58 PM
Not pretty enough.

Thanks for the correction, KIR. Adriatic! Pushah! I meant Aegean, or even Ionean. But the true Greek myth places them in Scythia.
Phinehas - 3/26/2009, 7:00 PM
what about Michelle Rodrigez, what do you guys think about her, shes tough, she can act, and she's gorgeous.......Guys, and lady ....somebody post me a pic of michelle rod...please
Galvatron - 3/26/2009, 7:01 PM
No, to Michelle Rodriguez. Maybe Rose McGowan? They can make her look taller. Just opposite of a hobbit. ;-)
Phinehas - 3/26/2009, 7:09 PM
... if the casting choices are Michelle Rodriguez and Rose McGowan....I sure hope this movie doen't get made. What's next? Charlize Theron? (although she's pretty the proportions of her body are just worng) Niocle Kidman?
NoobMike - 3/26/2009, 7:14 PM
Nicole Ki... Oh wait. I get it Bwah hahahaha.

Yeah, the Rose McGowan thing was just goofin. Not quite sure really. I think they ought treat as they did with Reeve (certainly not that waste of celluloid, Routh) and Superman. Cast an unknown talent that has the chops (as well as the looks...and proportions)!
Phinehas - 3/26/2009, 7:17 PM
"nor does it explain how the Amazons got to her" must I explain that as well? The Amazons had their own means of monitoring the outside world so really Queen Boudicca wouldnt be needed for that. Do you wish to know how to make the connection? connect the dots?

Dont worry about my satisfaction, I get plenty of it and I dont even have to kick or scream to get it.

"But isn't that the point of Hipollyta's seclusion? I think I am seeing your passion for WW realiZed."

Dont presume to know me from a few "rants". There is more to me than that you'd be surprised. As I have told someone before you are making comments about my character that you are not qualified to make.

You have a point about the origins. And I see your point about "The accent is alive well." but its not always true. I too have known people who it did fade and would come back full force when they were pissed or went on "holiday"..

"But what would I know right?".. Bitter. Very bitter.

You say I was being bitter I say I was being facetious... maybe if you werent so full of yourself you would have picked up on that.


KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 7:21 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm....Sluuuuuts;)
Rorschach01 - 3/26/2009, 7:21 PM
I cant type that fast. Scythia?

Michelle Rodriguez... doesnt fit the mold.

Rors...sick puppy!
KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 7:30 PM
lol, sorry i got juvenile there..you all make terribly good points and i can see were your all coming from in different ways..

Now were are these sluts?
Rorschach01 - 3/26/2009, 7:30 PM
"The city state of Thermyscira was established in Asia Minor. The Amazons' new home would also be called Themyscira and by the goddess Athena's decree, Queen Hippolyta led her sisters to the shores of the Aegean Sea. Poseidon parted the waters for the Amazons journey to an island paradise veiled from man. The island was situated in what was called the Bermuda Triangle."
KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 7:43 PM
Dont presume to know me from a few "rants"

By saying what I said, I don't presume to have the whole picture that is "KIR." Just a piece of huge puzzle.

"There is more to me than that you'd be surprised."

Nope. Not really. I'm not easily impressed. Thats why I read WW comics. As well as the Flash! Love that Flash.

"As I have told someone before you are making comments about my character that you are not qualified to make."

Yes I am qualified. Facetious or not, you spoke and revealed much about yourself (granted, not all). I don't care really about your defense. I'd rather talk about an upcoming WW movie.

"Do you wish to know how to make the connection? connect the dots?"

If you must parley your infinite wisdom upon us again, with all your "facetiousness", I accept.

Although I would curb the mysticism for the sake of a furure JLA team-up. I think too much mysticism and actual real myth mixed in a modern world may kill the franchise. Just a model and an ancient belief system based on it to explain their warped beliefs.

Yeah, Scythia is modern day Georgia.
Thanks for the lessons. Its been swollen.

Phinehas - 3/26/2009, 7:48 PM
America Ferrara
Galvatron - 3/26/2009, 7:58 PM
You are a pompous ass. You feel better by putting others down. You must be a really shitty person. I am not trying to impress you- get it straight...I am not trying to impress you, explain anything to you, or defend myself to you. You imposed yourself on me.

I was trying to get away from your nastiness and do what you said and talk about the movie. YOU want to continue with the insults. You just want to be some bitch ass punk and knock me for having my opinion. You didnt like it you didnt have to mention it. Others said they didnt like it and moved on. You cant just leave it there, you have to keep drawing it out. Get over yourself already.

You say I reveal alot about myself you dont know jack. you aint looking so peachy yourself. And people say I am hostile! if you dont care then why are you talking to me?! Just dont respond, dont address me or my comments, dont talk to me, dont say jack! ignore me like I will ignore you after this. I tried to get on track but you are a stubborn nasty ugly little git.

"Nope. Not really. I'm not easily impressed. Thats why I read WW comics. As well as the Flash! Love that Flash."

Your not easily impressed? you think alot of yourself that you think people want or care to impress you.

You'll accept jack...and nothing more.

"Thanks for the correction, KIR. Adriatic! Pushah! I meant Aegean, or even Ionean. But the true Greek myth places them in Scythia."

I know where Scythia is modern day and ancient. I dont need your lessons and I dont recall Wonder Woman island being set there at this moment.

oh and "for the sake of a furure " furure is spelled FUTURE.
KeepItReal - 3/26/2009, 9:42 PM
Well, excuuuuuuuuusse me...potty mouth.
After much contemplation from all of your gracious pearls of charm. I think you may be right about me. (sniff sniff) I'll change my ways. You are right. I am wrong. You are smart and I am stupid. You are beautiful and I'm ugly. I have been pinned and I'm tapping out!

Even my cursed typing errors should be cast into the Adriatic, Ionean, or Aegean forevermore. (sob sob)

Be the bigger man and let it go, cranky pants.

That's the last time I ever provoke a complete stranger to irrational outrage and resorts to childish language over a little critique.
Phinehas - 3/26/2009, 9:55 PM
I still love you KeepItReal.
TheMyth - 3/26/2009, 11:54 PM
Ok I've got to agree with KEEPITREAL lets keep it real. I dont know about most of you,but when I go to see a comicbook movie I want the story and characters to be as close to the comic as possible.I dont recall seeing any issue or cartoon where Wonder Woman looked black or anything else....she looks white.Until someone creats a black Wonder Woman lets stick with her being white,classy,heoric,edgy,tall,and fit.Jolie she's not going to work for me thats almost as bad as when rumors were flying around that Nick Cage was going to be Superman LOL.Like I've posted before I'd love for the studios to come up with a character for Beyonce.(they did it for Will Smith.... I know he can actually act)or was Hancock from a comic? Back to Beyonce if she's going to be wearing something interesting like Wonder Woman or Power Girl.. oh yea. Now thats somebody they should think about making a movie about POWER GIRL. Any way I do believe besides the HOTTNESS Wonder Woman must have this element. whoever they cast should be able to act,have a background in sports somewhat,and someone you'd believe if she had too she'd take your life...now Jolie has that going for her where as Beyonce doesnt.Lets go with Meagan Fox and call it the day. KeepitReal Im sure I fell into one of your sterotypes for most men,but I do agree with most of the things you've posted to this point.
BLADE4040 - 3/27/2009, 2:41 AM
John Singleton we need Luke Cage and Misty Knight ASAP. Oh Yea John how about that Black Panther movie and actually get the guy that was in Blood Diamond.... bring Storm in for Panther2.Ok its all fixed now no need to make Beyonce WW she can be Misty Knight. Black chic with the six million dollar man arm its a minor character so I dont think Bey needs to be Oscar worthy for the part LOL.
BLADE4040 - 3/27/2009, 2:41 AM
KeepitReal I see you have some indepth knowledge of Wonder Woman....I dont know the character that well just the basics. Thats why I like this site we can all come on here and share knowledge and at times agree to disagree on some topics.
BLADE4040 - 3/27/2009, 3:33 AM
To: Myth... Thank you. Me too. I got nothing but love for you baby.

To: Blade4040... We all fall into sterotypes at some point or another. It's all good. Like you said it's nice we can come here and share and agree or disagree. I just want to have fun with it.

You say until they make a black Wonder Woman... There is one... her twin NU'bia... The god Ares kidnapped her when she was made and trained her to be Wonder Womans adversary. I always pick Aisha Tyler (she is 6'!) if they were going to make a movie with her... Or as Storm if they made a movie with Black Panter... I agree with you about that Djimon Hounsou from Blood Diamond he is PERFECT for BP as someone else pointed out (I cant recall his name at the moment). I wish they would make that movie!

You like Bey for Misty Knight...I can see it... personally I would love to see her as Vixen! She got that animal attraction going on IMHO. Just feisty like that. Her eyes like a cat... I can see it, she would make a beautiful Vixen as the name suggests IMO. I think VIxen has short hair though maybe like Etta James did... but they could work it out.

I love Wonder Woman since I was a little girl! Just something that stood with me.

Call it a day with Foxx huh... hmmm... well no... She is too short 5'5 and too young... Wonder Woman is a mature woman say between mid 20's to 30. I would consider her for Wonder Girl... but though she is beautiful..I would go with someone with more acting chops at the moment. =:)

KeepItReal - 3/27/2009, 6:22 AM
Hahaha! So much tension in this room.

[Sniffle] Are you guys going to get a divorce? <=(
BmanHall - 3/27/2009, 7:38 AM
woo i got my early kick just from the last quarter of the comments here!

i learned some stuff from KIR about wonder woman and i have always been interested in mythology and the like
that being said

HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN THE GOD OF WAR 3 TRAILER? OMFG! i think i saw a screen shot of kratos choking out apollo :)
loganaspatch - 3/27/2009, 8:23 AM
Good afternoon everyone: weren't we discussing who should play Wonder Woman? ...I have missed a lot. Anyway, I have three new options for us:

Ivana Milicevic: I have only seen one thing of her, in 007 Casino Royale; the scene where the african warlord tries to cut her arm while the Chiffre just looks. I thought it was well played, but is only one little sequence.

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Gina Carano: she knows how to fight, judging her look and her bio information. And with blue contacts she could have the look. But can she act? There is also the problem that it is unlikely that muy-thai could be teached in Themyscira.

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Megan Gale: heighth is her strongest card (1.80 m), and if she manages to play Wonder Woman in the Justice League she will for sure do also this one.

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I hope you enjoy them and constructive comments are welcomed.

To KeepItReal: when I said what did you think about Alana de la Garza with the tiara, I was hoping for something more like "appropiate, but..." :)
Merinator - 3/27/2009, 9:50 AM
KeepitReal:I didnt know Fox was so short....then once again I agree with you. Amazon means size,strenght,and beauty along with a few other characteristics thats what\who WW is.She cant be 5'5 thats Why I never liked any of the Batmans. Unil now no one looked the part....especially Micheal "Beetlejuice"Keaton and George "ER GQ GUY" Clooney NINJA TRAINING KICKING BUTT THESE TWO YEA RIGHT.Well Im sure there's some atleast 5'9-6', athletically built,beautiful,decent acting woman able to do Wonder Woman some justice on the big screen. Im not sure Bey has what it takes to pull off Vixen like I said Bey doesnt have any edge to her so to speak.Angela Basset back when she played Tina Turner would've made a great Vixen I think. Like Im said give Bey SOMETHING MINOR TO WORK WITH WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT MY SUPERHEROINES.We've had enough people mess up our heroes:Chris Reeves,Mike Keaton,Val Kilmer,GEORGE CLOONEY,the Whole FF cast maybe Ben Grimm wasnt so bad just too small not the actor's fault,Nick Cage Im only naming big screen performances its probally more those are the only ones I could name in my sleep.If you notice I didnt mention Routh,Afflect,Garner,or Halle Berry I think they looked the part and acted fine. It was what they had to work with is what made those movies flop TERRIBLE storyline and in some cases medicore special effects and the list goes on. Lets get WW right then Superman we've already figured out Batman.
BLADE4040 - 3/27/2009, 11:30 AM
Never heard of Megan Gale. DAYUM! Glad I know about her now! I have to do some investigating to find out more.
icebergslick - 3/27/2009, 1:00 PM
I think Megan Fox would make the part for Wonder Woman best.
PoisonIvy5 - 3/27/2009, 1:11 PM
To: BLADE4040 ... yeah! Fox is short! and she has a younger look about her whereas Wonder Woman is older being "immortal" though she is about 2,005 or something she looks like mid 20's-30ish. Thats why I was suggesting Fox for Wonder Girl, Druscilla. But then her acting...not so good IMHO. But she is very beautiful and has the right look of the younger sister.

I know what you are saying about the Batmans. I thought George Clooney did the Bruce Wayne part down to a "T" though. I mean it wasnt a far strech for him really. Rich millionaire playboy... how could he mess that up?! He would've had to get slapped! But the Batman part.. He didnt do it for me. I thought Keation did the mask justice and the voice but his height killed it being so short.

Routh has a funny look about him.. I dk what it is.. I cant put my finger on it. lol.

To: Iceburgslick: "Glad I know about her now!" sick puppy! LOL =:) She is beautiful, is 5'10, she definitely has the look and the height, the maturity. Now if she can only ACT and fight too.... I think they have already chosen her?!! yikes... on pins and needles.

hey, when you investigate her find out if she can act, has she done any work we can all check out... I havent heard anything about her acting...

KeepItReal - 3/27/2009, 2:19 PM
Even as an African-American Man...I would say hell no to Beyonce playing WW. Either get an A Lister for the role or get an unknown with some chops. Aleast if you get a unknown when it comes to signing a contract that includes sequel...we won't have her jump the ship after one or two movies aka Doctor Who disease. Once the public gets familar with an actor who playing the role they decided leave after two or three seasons their reasoning is they don't want to be typecast in the role and leave the role. But with WW it should be like Cinderella slipping on the glass slipper...it should be a fit. I hope whoever they get I hope she can ACT, I hope the director is kick ass and I hope the script is top notch. AND MEGAN FOX...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
pearwater - 3/27/2009, 3:38 PM
To: KeepITReal

All I seem to have found out is that Megan Gale is an Aussie actress/model who has had bit roles in movies and some television experience. I totally agree with you though. She is beautiful and LOOKS the part, but she needs to be able to ACT the part. We need the total package to do Wonder Woman justice on the big screen.
icebergslick - 3/27/2009, 3:38 PM
PEOPLE (hey Real, found the thread!) - Megan Gale was only selected to play the JUSTICE LEAGUE Wonder Woman. This is a SOLO PROJECT WONDER WOMAN, which means they start from scratch!

I've got a lot of catch-up reading to do, but from what I've gathered so far....

Real - I don't think that most of the people here were bashing 'Catwoman' or 'Electra' because they were about strong women, I think they were bashing those movies because they were really bad films! Let's face it, they could have presented a REAL, three-dimensional heroine that had emontional depth and true character development, but instead they gave a half-assed attempt at lipstick feminism (Catwoman fighting in high-heeled sandals, and a... I don't even know what to call that eye-candy "outfit" she was wearing! - are they @#$!-ing SERIOUS?!!), and a BLATANT attempt of a studio to cash-in and strike while the iron was hot (riding on the coat-tails of 'Daredevil', even though they wiped their ass on the whole mythos of Electra by Frankensteining the film plot!) Gee, studios trying to cash-in? Say it ain't so! So what else is new...?

I do agree with your assessment that many young female leads in movies today rely too much on thier "assets" and not on their ability (if they have any - a problem that's been around forever and propagated by culture), creating a PARTIAL double standard in the film industry. While there are PLENTY of 'pre-pubescent' males out there drooling over the Megan Foxs and Scarlett Johhansens of the world (just read some of the comments on this site), you can't deny that there are also a FEW females (though they're not as boisterous) gasping and swooning over the Chris Pines and Brad Pitts out there (for example)! What can I say? We're a sexually-repressed society. Wha'd you expect? America WAS founded by the PURITANS!

You were in the military too, huh? Which branch?

Back to the matter at hand - Wonder Woman!

Diana -

Qualities:
Black hair (can be dyed)
Blue eyes (can wear contacts)
Tall (equal to or taller than 5' 7''... what do you guys think?
Mid-to-late 20's (...if this is an 'Origins' film)
Beautiful, Intelligent, Strong, Independent, Caring, maybe a little naive (she HAS lived he whole life on an island...), Skilled in hand-to-hand combat (martial arts training a bonus)

...am I missing anything?


Some of the candidates mentioned so far:

Megan Gale - (selected for 'Justice League' Wonder Woman')
Pros - She IS beautiful AND tall (being an Australlian model is in her favor).

Cons - I don't think anyone (aside from the casting people of 'Justice League') has seen her ACT... or FIGHT for that matter.


Beyonce -
Pros - Beautiful, Tall

Cons - No acting skills or fighting abilities


Ivana Milicevic -
Pros - Beautiful, don't know if she fits the 'TALL' requirement.

Cons - Aside from 'Casino Royale' (and she was a blip in that), I haven't seen her in ANYTHING (has anyone else?). Again, don't know about ACTING or FIGHTING.


Gina Carano -
Pros - Beautiful, Tall, Professional MMA fighter

Cons - Has absolutely NO acting training or experience


Megan Fox -
Pros - Beautiful

Cons - So-so on acting (limited range/experience), no fighting experience, short


... well, that's it for now. Anybody else have any other suggestions?
loganoneil - 3/27/2009, 4:15 PM
Wonder Woman:

Best topic EVER!
Betty - 3/27/2009, 5:41 PM
Wow i think i have actually seen everything in this post, lol.
For the record...i'll go in order of my thoughts
Catwoman...horrible effin movie, the writers had written nothing of note, actually 2 of them wrote Terminator 3, which was wrong on many levels, perhaps they just didn't hvae the writing chops at that point i dunno, one writer Theresa Rebeck wrote nothing, simply put, nothing that would make me go "wow". Directed by "Pitof" who had Directed one title previously to Catwoman, so this was basically doomed from the start, let alone Halle Berry just having the wrong acting ability for the role to begin with.
Elektra Directed by Rob Bowman who previously did everything Sci-Fi on TV from X-Files to Star Trek TNG, made an admirable movie for a second row character (yes argue away on this one please). BUT it was a good movie, about middle of the road, it was good not great but definitely not a bad movie.

As far as female Heros in movies, i think we've seen the gamut of "just a few" and alot of those movies did damned good at the box-office.

Feminism in this Century is about as old as Disco at this point, you can argue women are viewed as sex objects, but sex sells on both sides of the chromosomes.

Who should play it? i think it's more of Who could play it

Beyonce can't act and i don't need to see the "wonder woman bounce" music video or soemthing

Megan Fox if she can get some sort of muscle behind her, i always picture an Amazon woman as being a bit more toned and muscular.

Gemma Arterton, can act well

Ali Larter would be interesting

Jessica Biel could get away with it

Now for the ones i don't want to see:

Catherine Heigl if she could get tighter, not lose weight but just tighten up lol (knocked up joke) although she is very Amazon-like

Tyler Perry could make another crapfest movie and call it "Tyler Perry's Madeia is Wonder Woman" and you get the picture

Kirstie Alley .............

Courtney Love could do it, she could play a street-wise tough heroin addicted version and call it "The Dark Wonder Woman"......

Angelina Jolie can't do this movie because Amazons have no fathers and would be orphans so she would spend all of her set-time trying to adopt the cast.

Oprah as Wonder Woman would break all box office records because she would tell her fanbase to see the movie 10 times and Dr.Phil could play the love interest.





darkcrow - 3/27/2009, 5:57 PM
Darkcrow - Kirstie Alley?! ...Courtney Love?!! Tyler Perry?!!! ....OPRAH?!!!! Now that's just plain WRONG... on SO many levels!
loganoneil - 3/27/2009, 6:21 PM
LOL, Penelope Cruz anyone?

then she'd just have a really horrible accent.
NoobMike - 3/27/2009, 7:51 PM
...at least she'd be able to ACT a helluva' lot better than Megan Fox!
loganoneil - 3/27/2009, 8:05 PM
Betty:
Wasn't it?? It has drawn out the most interesting people out of the wood work, hasn't it? Especially, opinionated thread-usurpers who come in and write doctorate thesis length posts to spread...I don't know. They resist any dissent to their weird thoughts. So becareful what you say. They cast out labels when they are shown for what they are. But what do I know, I'm just a pompous a**

Wonder Woman can be played by a mediocre talent. Its the story and and how well it is told that will make it or break it. Right now, society at large doesn't care about WW as we do. But if they new it would look like a cross between Gladiator and 300 but with chickies, then it would have a shot. Then after initial release, word-of-mouth will move it.
Though, I am glad to see their is a concern to see some acting ability from fans. I'd really hate to see a Brandon Routh counterpart given to WW!
Phinehas - 3/27/2009, 9:07 PM
Let's see: Penélope Cruz not. Over all, she won't do it. And even more if eventually Pedro Almodóvar would manage to direct Wonder Woman. If you want reasons, see her early actrees career. She is not bad, but neither is she so great as many people see her.

Don't worry about doctorate thesis length posts, Phinehas, you have the same characters to response :) But seriously, I prefer it that way. This is a feedback matter, so we must explain with maximum detail our opinions and options, I keep thinking that some Silver Pictures businessman will read this and suddenly he will be inspired to go ahead with the wonder woman project.

I have also done a little research on Youtube and I have found a Vodafone coomercial starring Megan Gale, but honestly, I don't know if that piece makes her justice. I also found this article saying that she has the skills (but who said this? George Miller)

I post both links in case someone has curiosity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNzxgo5NF34

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24108414-5012980,00.html

And an interview as a tip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnB-FIPpKpo
Merinator - 3/27/2009, 9:37 PM
Merinator:

"Don't worry about doctorate thesis length posts, Phinehas, you have the same characters to response "

Huh?
Phinehas - 3/27/2009, 9:44 PM
Loganoneil:
If ya read the post it said overtop of those...."the ones i don't want to see"

but now i do to keep it interesting
darkcrow - 3/27/2009, 10:08 PM
@keepitreal, u have 2 be THE biggest wonderwoman fanatic Ive ever seen. I bet u dressed up as her for comic con huh??
zinext - 3/27/2009, 11:25 PM
Phinehas, I was trying to say that I prefer a long post which explains its reasons and causes instead of those consisting of a single text line; and that is because I really enjoy debating friendly.
Merinator - 3/28/2009, 5:03 AM
Merinator... I took another look at your pick..she is 5' 9" (1.75 m) which is not bad... She looked good with the tiara.. she looked nice... the eyes have contacts no? It makes a big difference? I am not a big fan of contacts for these things. (cheesy) In those links picture she looked good.. possible?.. I hope if the execs do get inspired they take into consideration the fans wants and concerns. Can she act, I have never seen her work.

I hope Megan Gale does justice to the JLA WOnder Woman.

BadLogan...cool you found us. I dont know about the blue contact lens. It looks cheesy to me IMHO like when Jessica ALba looked in Fantastic Four. Not good for me.

Why does Penelope Cruz name keep jumping up? She wont do.

Darkcrow.. "Feminism in this Century is about as old as Disco at this point, you can argue women are viewed as sex objects, but sex sells on both sides of the chromosomes"

old as disco? lol... I wouldnt put it that way. It's there, it happens. Its like saying people dont do shrooms any more. But I do agree with you on the second 1/2 when you say sex sells on both sides. =:)

"Megan Fox if she can get some sort of muscle behind her, i always picture an Amazon woman as being a bit more toned and muscular."

She is everyones fav.. understandable she is beautiful. But she is only 5'5 WW is 5'11-6'. For an amazon she would need the height. And not only that isnt she doing Hex and another comic already?..fathom or something like it? ANd she is in Transformers. IMHO she would be tapped out, overexposed.

I believe any actress who is going to play Wonder Woman needs to be toned and have some definition going on. Not look like Chyna cuz Wonder WOman is strong without having to sacrifice her femininity. But I think to have the athletic build and toned look that Jessica Biel had in Blade III would be fantastic.

I can't stand Katherine Heigl (ohh sorry i really dont like her).

Jessica Biel, with her toned look she had in BLade III yes...Again, I think any actress who plays Wonder Woman needs to hve that and she does! But Jessica is also only 5'8. I do love her though. ANd she can fight!

Ali Larter is interesting... I had to look her up... but she is also only 5'8.. but she fights too cool.

Gemma Arterton... she is 5' 7" (1.70 m) kinda short. kinda young too... she to me imo doesnt look like WW.

Why did they have to go all the way to Austrailia to find our Wonder WOman? yes its a little tough finding the right req for some. but I would rather work with someone who is 5'9 or something and can act and do justice to the movie than have someone who is 5'11 but cant act worth a lick.

I personally like Jody Lynn O'keefe. She is 5'10, got the black hair, blue eyes, can act, does kickboxing.

Tyler Perry...LMAO... Diary of a Mad WOnder Woman? haha
KeepItReal - 3/28/2009, 7:58 AM
Darkcrow - I know, but it was still... wrong and... just plain... WRONG! :)

Real - they found Megan in Australlian because that's where the 'Justice League' movie was going to be filmed...

To all you Megan Fox lovers out there, (I know I'm drawing a HUGE bullseye on the back of my head, so fire away...), she not that talented! Maybe in a couple of years she could handle a role like this (after she get a LOT more acting experience), but not now! There's also the height factor that Real brings up...

Jessica Biel is OK, but her acting range is kinda' limited (again, she's not that good!). In my opinion, she's one step above being a female version of Keanu Reeves!

Gemma Arterton - now there's a candidate! Wide acting range... looks... Real - is 5' 7'' really too short?

Jody Lyn O'Keefe - OMG, I completely forgot about her! Real, she's PERFECT! I could TOTALLY see her holding the lasso of truth! EXCELLENT CHOICE!!
loganoneil - 3/28/2009, 8:39 AM
KeepItReal, about Alana de la Garza with the tiara, those aren't contacts: it's unrefined photoshop (she's brown eyes). She has acted at least, in CSI: Miami and Law & Order, which I haven't seen.

Gemma Arterton was in 007 Quantum of Solace, but ¿isn't she too young?

About Jody Lyn O'Keefe, if only for a moment I could forget her being Gretchen...
Merinator - 3/28/2009, 10:18 AM
I don't think that the height should be an imperative in casting(THough is a plus). They can cheat with the camera angle, depth, and other forms of FX.
Muscle tone is definitely a must. I'm not entirely impressed with Megan Fox. I think Jessica Biel could do better than Fox. Not the best, just better than Fox...in skill. And it probably comes down to experience. I've seen actors come into their own after some time in a career. Ironically, I think Ledger peaked with the Joker. But consider such flops with sub-par acting, such as "The Order" and "The Brothers Grimm." Fox and others that seem to be so critcally judged by some in this room may want to take that into consideration. Also, they may perform quite well before the casting director and sell themselves during that process. Especially after cutting their teeth on previous work. They may have learned a few things.
I think the most important thing, after a settling on a solid story and a good director(providing the vision and story telling ability), is a woman that CAN act. Other sub-demands should not take precedence over that one.

On another note:
I just hope this movie is classy. I was watching some older films recently and was thinking about how they expressed themselves, not so much with what was said, but in their body language and facial expressions. Nowadays, it seems, everything is over-explained or shown to us, not leaving anything to the imagination and intellect. Sometimes, I think Hollyweird thinks we're all together collectively stupid. I would love it if WW sets a new era for classic filmaking within this genre.

BTW, JLA isn't happening at this point as it was originally with Gale's casting and Miller directing. The success of TDK (and consequently, Iron Man) changed things.
Phinehas - 3/28/2009, 4:12 PM
Logan...5'7 short?... for ME...no! it's tall but they seem to be using that as a reason why they are going with MEgan Gale.. so to get as close to Gale w/out sacrificing too much height I was thinking 5'9 - 5'10 for the actresses & then cheat with the cameras. I suppose if they do that it wouldnt be much of a strech with 5'8 or 5'7 if they are going to cheat but the taller the better imo.Like I said earlier I rather have someone who can act & cheat w/the height than someone who has the height & cant act worth a lick. But as far as Gemma she's young looking (& not pretty IMHO).

BTW...I was Navy..=:) you? RAF?

Merinator... "Jody Lyn O'Keefe, if only for a moment I could forget her being Gretchen" Bendito.

I keep forgetting you dont like "gretchen"! sorry...lol..

ALana de Garza is beautiful but one picture showed blue eyes and another brown so I thought it was contacts. maybe I had too many windows up. But she is definitely nice height beautiful and at least that picture she looks good with the tiara (if I got the right picture!). IS she your favorite candidate?

I wish we could pick our favorite and whoever wins gets the actual role to play her! It would be crazy!! If the fans could pick...man....

Hey! Can someone make a poll with some picks of ours? My favorite Jody, Merinators Alana, MEgan Fox, I think Logans is Jolene BLalock..etc..etc... for fun.. I should do something like Shaman did with his secret identities but our picks for Wonder woman... Where is he? Shaman! Come back!!!! ..

KeepItReal - 3/28/2009, 4:56 PM
I'll pass on this movie.
GameAnime45 - 3/28/2009, 5:06 PM
Army...
loganoneil - 3/28/2009, 5:46 PM
army? really?..for some reason or another I thought you were english.... I dk why... cool...
KeepItReal - 3/28/2009, 6:24 PM
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