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Dr. Curt "The Lizard" Connors Confirmed for Spider-Man 4

Dr. Curt "The Lizard" Connors Confirmed for Spider-Man 4

Does this mean The Lizard will finally be the lead villain?

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By ComicBookMovie - 10/22/2009
UGO got the scoop...

Spidey actor Dylan Baker was at a presentation of Trick 'r Treat last night at New York’s Walter Reade Theater for Lincoln Center’s third annual “Scary Movies” program.

During a post-screening Q & A, Baker confirmed that he is on board for Sam Raimi’s forthcoming Spider-Man 4. According to reports, Baker said that he had just gotten his first call concerning Spider-Man 4 that very day. Baker appeared in Spider-Man 2 and Spider-Man 3 as Dr. Curt Connors, a professor at Empire State University.

When friend Michael Dougherty ribbed him about “just appearing in the background” Baker said that, basically, that’s what he’d be doing. It was unclear if they were being truthful or if, in fact, Dr. Connors would become supervillain The Lizard in this fourth entry in the film series. During their riffing, Dougherty used the phrase “co*ktease for another year” as to whether or not we’d see The Lizard.

We here at CBM believe that this would be the best way to go with Spider-Man 4 -- especially after the lackluster Spider-Man 3, which fell into the same old formula that has killed comic book movie franchises in the past, specifically, throwing too many villains into the mix. Focus on a single villain and do it right! Here're the reasons WHY The Lizard should be the lead villain:

1. He's a classic Spidey villain! Don't you dare make up another quasi-gobby. Stick to the classics.

2. His backstory is unique and aligned with spidey's own--which makes for good drama. They are kindred spirits, only Peter's accidental science experiment went right, whereas Connor's purposeful one went horribly wrong.

3. The Lizard is an sympathetic villain. His motives aren't evil. You don't dislike him like your typical evil supervillains. That is a plus. He's not interested in world domination like ever other villain.
Source: UGO
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GUNSMITH - 10/22/2009, 10:19 AM
DO IT ALREADY!

BmanHall - 10/22/2009, 10:20 AM
@ GUNSMITH: Simple and to the point. Well said.
CaptainAmerica - 10/22/2009, 10:20 AM
Tits or GTFO!
supermarioworldE - 10/22/2009, 10:20 AM
Y'know, if they're not gonna use the lizard by now, then they really are assholes for leading us on for two movies
Ryden - 10/22/2009, 10:21 AM
For the love of God the Lizard needs to be in 4 it's the only logical way forward.
antz1104 - 10/22/2009, 10:28 AM
Yeah, they need to get this train a' rollin'.
Betty - 10/22/2009, 10:28 AM
Woo Hoo! Come on Kraven!
LEEE777 - 10/22/2009, 10:28 AM
We knew it!!!

HELL YEAH!!! ; )



superdog - 10/22/2009, 10:31 AM
Lee77@ we don't know shit. This and the Bruce Campbell shit doesn't tell us anything. They'll be in the movie. Guesse what thy were in the prior movies 2 but no mysterio or
lizard. So this doesn't mean shit.
GUNSMITH - 10/22/2009, 10:32 AM
GIVE US WHAT WE WANT RAIMI GIVE IT TO US NOW!!!!!
StephenStrange - 10/22/2009, 10:33 AM
cool with me.

And having a giant lizard roaming the streets of NY is the perfect setting to bring in a certain big game hunter turned super villian. This brings him into a conflict of interests with Spider-Man

Spider Man just wants to help Connors. Kraven just wants to hunt him. Coolnesss ensues.

cue flaming from Kraven haters.......... NOW! lol :P
LEEE777 - 10/22/2009, 10:36 AM
DOG @ It's still a really good sign man!!!

It's all coming together! ; )
supermarioworldE - 10/22/2009, 10:42 AM
Then it'll be no different from the third.
jimthefan - 10/22/2009, 10:49 AM
theres tons of coolspidy villains any1 they pick will be cool, but lizard cant hold his own movie and kravens kinda dull not a very appealing looking villain for some1 that dont know spidys villains.

im gonna say we might see electro i think raimi strikes me as sum1 who like to have relationships with his villains i think max can pose ad harrys replacement for most of the film and turning into electro towards the end .. idk just wanna find out who it is already
dellamorte1872 - 10/22/2009, 10:51 AM
this means that he may in fact be THE LIZARD thats why is a "****tease" b/c even though BAKER IS CONNORS LIKE 85% OF THE FILM HE WILL BE THE LIZARD IN CGI, AND HE WONT BE VERY INVOLVED
luffycapri - 10/22/2009, 10:53 AM
old news but cool still
Minotauro - 10/22/2009, 10:57 AM
@Superpup - How do you know it ain't official? That got the sources right there...
BmanHall - 10/22/2009, 10:58 AM
@ MultiPurposePoni: Haha, you too?
GUNSMITH - 10/22/2009, 10:58 AM
QUESTION TO ALL=HOW WOULD U LIKE TO SEE THE LIZARD?--CGI--PRACTICAL LIKE FROM YOUR RICK BAKERS OR YOUR SAM WINSTON TYPES,TATOPOLUS...OR MAYBE A SPLICER-CG AND PRACTICAL COMBINED, LIKE WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE WAS DONE???????????
ASSASSIN666 - 10/22/2009, 11:05 AM
Tell us something we don't know mother f**ker!
GUNSMITH - 10/22/2009, 11:06 AM
PONI-IF I PUT COSTUME AND CG GODZILLA UP AND HAD TO CHOOSE ID PICK COSTUME..IT JUST SEEMS COOLER..THE WORLD RELYS ON CGI WAY TO MUCH..ITS BECOME A CRUTCH
LEEE777 - 10/22/2009, 11:06 AM


; )
GUNSMITH - 10/22/2009, 11:09 AM
ID LIKE TO SEE HIM REALLY FAST, SCARY FAST, AND IF HE GOT A HOLD OF YOU JUST BRUTAL, IF YOU PUT A HUMAN SIZED REPTILE IN A DARK SEWER AND PIT HIM AGAINST A SPIDERMAN, THE BAR HAS TO BE RAISED, VENOM SANDMAN DOC OCK,GREEN GOBLIN..THEY HAD A BRAIN..THE LIZARD IS JUST DANGEROUS
FlashThompson - 10/22/2009, 11:11 AM
Is Godzilla doing the Saftey Dance in the gif?
GUNSMITH - 10/22/2009, 11:12 AM
THINK THE KATHOGA FROM THE RELIC BUT NOT AS HUGE SCARY FAST LIKE THE ALIENS CREATURE THAT CAME OUT OF THE DOG.I WANT PETER TO NOT SAY OH GEEZ HE'S FAST...I WANT HIM TO SAY WTF! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
ThisFan - 10/22/2009, 11:13 AM
@comicbook
GREAT FIND
GUNSMITH - 10/22/2009, 11:13 AM
FLASH THATS THE POPEYE DANCE
Crusader - 10/22/2009, 11:15 AM
With the lizard it will be more dark and a lot of action. Bring in rhino for the first fight opening seen.Have kraven hunt lizard. Kraven is the last fight seen.
Whispers68 - 10/22/2009, 11:24 AM
@multi

Dude, I've noticed you're going all out with your outfit...same as last year and the thing is, your outfits turn out rather precise and well put together. Is there any sewing taking place with any of the outfits or is it more like patching and gluing things together?

My girlfriend is Filipino/Japanese so she had this overwhelming idea this year to be a geisha girl and have me play the cliche role of soldier who ventured to Japan and swept her off her feet during one of my tours...I haven't really dressed up for Halloween as yet so I saw your pics and wanted to do the superhero couple thing. But she brought the idea first so i have to go as a military officer. I have all of my patches, dog tags and pins. What else would you recommend? I could ask my brother but you're the costume designer here. LOL
inlovewiththeregencyelf - 10/22/2009, 11:28 AM
are we thinking that the lizard would be the principal villain in spiderman 4 then? or just part of a scheme of villains that might include some or all of the sinister six?

the lizard plot makes sense for the upcoming installment: connors could volunteer to work as a battlefield surgeon in some capacity with the army, we even have armed conflicts involving the u.s. armed forces in the real world that would frame that sort of narrative arc and help out the suspension of disbelief a bit.

it even makes sense for the rhino to appear at the beginning of the film as a minor villain for spiderman to beat with the costume-melting serum developed by connors. i know raimi was considering using the rhino as a kickoff villain for the third film, but it only makes sense in a movie in which the lizard is going to be let out of the bag, so to speak.
Shaman - 10/22/2009, 11:33 AM
Multi- You're an epic win... no you... no you... you're the win... the epic win... no you... no you're the epic win... no you... NO!!! YOU!!!
GUNSMITH - 10/22/2009, 11:34 AM
BUST OUT THE RE-COMBINATOR
JoshWilding - 10/22/2009, 11:37 AM
I dont think this means we're going to see Lizard - Connors had a very small part in both 2 and 3 so I think they would have to use another movie to set up the character a little better - maybe have Peter work in his lab?

Im not too bothered because I've never found Lizard or Kraven to be all that interesting...Id much prefer to see Scorpion or Electro!
Shaman - 10/22/2009, 11:37 AM
Seriously though, i wouldn't be surpised to see a Rhyno opening myself. I bet Kevin Durand will be in the suit too ;P

I really hope they're going with Lizard and Kraven. Well, that's one of 'em, all we need to wait for is Raimi's call To Gerard Butler and it's a go!!!

Just scroll past the sketch if you're sick of seeing it LOL

thwhtGuardian - 10/22/2009, 11:40 AM
scorpion all the way.
I love the lizard, but thematically I feel he is t similar to doc oc
inlovewiththeregencyelf - 10/22/2009, 11:47 AM
thwhtGuardian--you're probably right about the lizard being too much like doc oc to be effective or sensible as a primary villain. the whole good man scientist gone neurochemically twisted by experiments gone wrong. good call. i hadn't really thought about it along those lines.
StephenStrange - 10/22/2009, 11:48 AM
yup, Rhino would be cool too.
I would love to see Spidey go up against someone a LOT stronger than he is.

Does anyone else remember the time Spider-Man went ape shit on Rhino for threatening to attack Aunt May? He beat Rhino down so bad, his mom probably felt it lol
Shaman - 10/22/2009, 12:14 PM
Tea- I hate the Lizard passionately which is why i fear he won't work unless Kraven's on the hunt for him!

Multi- Funny hard on or funny diarrhea???
MrDCGuy23 - 10/22/2009, 12:28 PM
YAY!!!!!!! About time they put that actor to good use.
@Shaman: Great artwork man. Props!!
ASSASSIN666 - 10/22/2009, 12:30 PM
They need to follow the sub plot of the Spiderman 3 video game where Kraven is hunting the Lizard. It would make for an awesome movie.
jazzman - 10/22/2009, 12:34 PM
bring on the Lizard

dont you guys feel sorry for all the spider-man villains. its not there fault they are bad guys spider-man feels more like a bad guy.
JoshWilding - 10/22/2009, 12:38 PM
I dont hate Lizard or Kraven...I just dont find them all that interesting! I always wanted to see Green Goblin, Doc Ock and Venom on the big screen and although they [frick]ed Venom up I've still seen the three I wanted to!

Id now be happy to see any of Spider-Man's villain (even though Scorpion/Electro are my top choices!) Hell, after two years (and 4 years in 2011) Ill be happy just to see a new Spider-Man movie!!!!!
MovieTheaterLad - 10/22/2009, 12:38 PM
@Shaman: Dude. Just awesome. I love the fang, too! Nice touch!

@Assasin: I know, right! Maybe if they do, we can already guess what Bruce Campbell's role will be!
Shaman - 10/22/2009, 12:52 PM
MrDCGuy23 & MovieTheaterLad- Thanks guys ;)

Josh- Good point!

And Bruce needs to be Mysterio!!! Might never be but whatever...
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 10/22/2009, 12:52 PM
Lizard is the best logical step for Spiderman 4, and just just because the character has been built up over two movies.

Sam keeps banging on about how he chooses the villains to match Peters growth arc. And this growth is the focal point of the movies.

1 - Peter had to come to terms with his powers and decide how to use them.

2 - Peter had to tackle the impact being Spiderman has on his personal life.

3 - Peter had to restrain the power he had and control his anger as the villain he faced had personally caused him pain.

4 - This should be Peter struggling to tackle the villain because he is emotionally linked by friendship. and admiration.

Think I put that right! Thanks to the kids it took me 40mins to write that and I can't be arsed to go over it another time!
CaptainDeadpool - 10/22/2009, 12:57 PM
Finally have the Lizard as the lead villain and then you could have an explosion that would release the sample of the symbiote from SM3 that Doc Conners still had and it owuld find Cletus Cassidy and would become Carnage and there would be 2 major villains on the prowl and there ya go i just gave you the movie right there Sam Raimi and by the way you should get movin on Evil Dead 4 already
MovieTheaterLad - 10/22/2009, 1:04 PM
@Howlett: Yeah I think you basically got it.

Also I would add that now, as stated above, Peter will have to deal with fighting someone whom he not only admires, but is also not a villain through his free will. The Lizard is like Frankenstein's monster in that respect, and Spidey has yet to face a villain such as that.

Kraven's involvement in Pete's growth arc is a bit trickier. I'd assume that since Kraven is not in it for revenge or anger or anything, Pete will have a bit of a harder time tackling how he'd defeat him.
THEHAWK - 10/22/2009, 1:13 PM
I don't know I could see them setting up the return of Goblin. I mean think about it. Dafoe has been in oth of the sequels after he supposedly died. I think we will see him in 4 or 5.

Personally i'd like to see Lizard and Kraven in 4. Kraven was sent to new york ot hunt Spidey by a mysterious backer, but then sees a better prize, the Lizard.

So we have a three way battle going, SPidey trying to stop Kraven from killing Lizard, and Spidey himself. Whil keeping Lizard form hurting anyone.

And at the end they could reveal that the backer who sent Kraven to New York was none other than Norman Osborn!
THEHAWK - 10/22/2009, 1:15 PM
@CaptainDeadpoo. no Carnage! We don't need to let Raimi around any more Symbiotes. He admitts that he doesn't understand them. So no Carnage, no Venom, Toxin, Screech, etc etc.
fadawn - 10/22/2009, 1:19 PM
Dont think we will see the lizard in this one. Here is why. Dr. Connors still has his arm, and is not experimenting on tissue regeneration like lizards yet. So unless they are going to cram all that into the first 20 minutes of the movie, wich would suck badly. I see another villain causing the accedent developing the lizard arc through 4 unleashing in 5. any takers?
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