THE FLASH: Hot Toys Has Canceled Its Upcoming Young Barry Allen Figure (But Not For The Reason You'd Expect)
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THE FLASH: Hot Toys Has Canceled Its Upcoming Young Barry Allen Figure (But Not For The Reason You'd Expect)

Christopher Reeve's Children Confirm They Had No Involvement With His CGI SUPERMAN Cameo In THE FLASH
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grif
grif - 4/27/2023, 11:43 AM
sounds like a trainwreck
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 4/27/2023, 6:28 PM
@grif - it sounds fine.
Matador
Matador - 4/27/2023, 11:45 AM
This just sounds [frick]in retarded goes in a circle jerk with himself.

GhostDog
GhostDog - 4/27/2023, 11:46 AM
This sounds dumb, to be honest
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 4/27/2023, 11:50 AM
Barry [frick]ed up the timeline and made a new DCU. This is how they keep what they want (Gunn’s crew, Ezra, the fastest pedo alive, Miller) and replace who Gunn doesn’t like (Gadot, Cavill).
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 4/27/2023, 11:54 AM
Spike101
Spike101 - 4/27/2023, 3:44 PM
@99OPTIMISTPRIME - oh yes please 🙏
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 4/27/2023, 4:11 PM
@99OPTIMISTPRIME - That's Bruce
mountainman
mountainman - 4/27/2023, 11:55 AM
It sounds like it has Dr Strange 2 levels of cameos. Hopefully one day, there can be a truly wild multiverse movie out there (besides Spider-Verse and No Way Home).

Secret Wars had better to all out. Lou Ferigno Hulk. Fox X-Men and FF. Sony characters. Japanese spider-man. Alternate silver age 616 versions (from Richard Grant Lokis world). Nick Cage Ghost Rider. Wesley Snipes Blade. Agents of SHIELD. Netflix Marvel characters. Somehow show the animated universes. Really big with lots of cool cameos.
Odin
Odin - 4/27/2023, 12:09 PM
@mountainman - I know it's not exactly a superhero movie, but what about Everything Everywhere All at Once?
mountainman
mountainman - 4/27/2023, 12:11 PM
@Odin - Wild multiverse movie for sure. But I was mainly referring to Marvel and DC that have decades of lore and projects to pull from.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 4/27/2023, 1:32 PM
@mountainman - the problem with going all out in the real world is scheduling and actually having to pay all of these people. Endgame was said to be a logistic nightmare and that was just in universe people.

Also, people actually have to be interested in reprising those roles on top of everything else
mountainman
mountainman - 4/27/2023, 1:34 PM
@MyCoolYoung - Good points and I get it. But with the multiverse, you could at least get other actors to play the roles and still make it feel bigger. Maybe not the crazy cameo fest that I listed above, but alternate takes on key characters would feel a lot bigger than Dr Strange 2 that just felt small.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 4/27/2023, 5:23 PM
@mountainman - if Dr Strange goes crazy with the cameos then secret wars doesn’t feel special. I like that we’re getting corners of the multiverse so far then let secret wars go crazy with it.

I won’t even be mad if secret wars is lite on plot and just crazy on cameos(kidding)
mountainman
mountainman - 4/27/2023, 5:44 PM
@MyCoolYoung - Valid point. Personally, I had less of an issue with the lack of crazy cameos than I did with the overall lackluster plot, weak character arc for strange, how lame the Illuminati was, and what they did with Wanda. The characters they chose for the Illuminati were fine enough, but it would have been nice for them to not be so lame in execution.
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 4/27/2023, 12:00 PM
We see the new Batman's feet? How will that work. They have to somehow make it clear to the audience that it's not Affleck or Keaton without showing who it is? Weird.
Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 4/27/2023, 12:04 PM
@TheManWithoutFear - We don't know which Batman it is. It could be the new actor, Keaton, or Affleck. I think they know who it is, they just don't want it spoiled.
Fogs
Fogs - 4/27/2023, 12:07 PM
@TheManWithoutFear @Th3Batman - If we hear his footsteps is Pattinson's. That guy couldn't be stealthy to save his life, lol.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 4/27/2023, 12:20 PM
@TheManWithoutFear - I think showing even the ears would make more sense. I am guessing the feet will show the cape though.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 4/27/2023, 1:34 PM
@TheManWithoutFear - there's a leak saying who it was from a month or so ago. They say it's Clooney and Barry is stuck there
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 4/27/2023, 4:12 PM
@TheManWithoutFear - They arent, because they dont know if they are keeping Ezra, depends on the numbers this movies pulls.
And still could be Clooney.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/28/2023, 6:42 AM
@TheHumanSpider2 -
If this is the DCU, then 1) The Flash already has his powers, so unless they're going back and retelling his origin in this new world, we still won't have an origin movie and 2) He's played by Ezra.

It seems to be a really important plot point that certain actors playing certain roles signifies a change in the timeline, so if Ezra is Barry in the DCU, then Ezra is the Barry of the DCU. Unless they have his face realign with the new timeline and we see him morph into a different actor, Doctor Who style, then they're not getting rid of Ezra and he's Barry in this new universe. Which sucks a massive dick.

On a positive note though, they may be showing us our new Batman in this movie which is really exciting. Unless this is the Burton-Schumacherverse and it's Clooney.

But if it's Clooney then this movie doesn't actually reset the DCU like they are all saying it does. It ends up being an utterly disconnected and unimportant story.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 4/28/2023, 11:16 AM
@ObserverIO - We dont know where Barry ends up by the end of the film, that's the cliffhanger.
Having a Barry older than Clark sounds ridiculous, I dont think they are keeping Ezra, but then again, they keep giving him all he wants...
It all depends on the BO, I think the same is happening with Jason Momoa, difference being people love Jason Momoa as Aquaman...and he isnt a pedophile.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 4/28/2023, 11:17 AM
@ObserverIO - I Clooney appears by the end of the movie, it would be awesome, it would explain while Burton's Bruce changed so much between movies.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/28/2023, 11:32 AM
@TheHumanSpider2 - If that is the case then how does the movie reboot the DCU?

So this is the main Barry we've been following the whole movie and this is the fixed timeline that he returns back to, so it reboots the DCEU (the DCEU becomes the Flashpoint Burtonverse and then gets fixed and becomes the Schumacherverse), but it doesn't set up the DCU at all.

Yet James Gunn, Peter Safran, David Zaslav and others have said that this is the movie that "resets", "restarts" and "reboots" the DCU.

When I heard about the George Clooney thing, I thought that was maybe where the Dark Flash ended up, as a sort of fitting punishment, which would be a funny after-credits scene, but going by the descriptions of the ending here, this is the main universe that Barry has fixed.

The DCEU becomes the Burtonverse becomes... whatever this is.

So if it's the Schumacherverse (and it might be) then it's not the thing that reboots the DCU at all. The DCU would just be another universe in the multiverse. So they would have been lying.

Also, showing just his feet seems awfully teasing just for a George Clooney joke. Like if it was supposed to be Brave and the Bold Batman, then the actor might not have been cast yet and therefore the scene wouldn't have been shot yet, whcih would be good reason to leave it there.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/28/2023, 11:33 AM
@ObserverIO - I would feel a lot better about going to see this movie if I heard reports that Ezra suddenly deages into another actor at the end of it.
MotherFuckerJon
MotherFuckerJon - 4/27/2023, 12:02 PM
Eh..still be a pretty cool movie. If for nothing else atleast the cameos.
Odin
Odin - 4/27/2023, 12:13 PM
That original plan of having DCEU with Keaton as retired Nick Fury-Batman and Supergirl, but no Superman at all, still sounds so incredibly bad. Did WB executives actually go like: "Hey, that CW universe, where they constantly have to step around the fact that we don't let them use any of the A-list characters in a proper manner. Let's just do that on the big screen."
DocSpock
DocSpock - 4/27/2023, 12:23 PM
@Odin -

You are right. This is why their whole DCFU burned down.
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