Champions Battle Poll (Week 8: Round 2)

Iron Fist vs Richard Dragon

All Iron Fist has to do is land a chi powered blow.Thougth that might take awhile Iron Fist should win in the end.

Batgirl(Cain) vs Daredevil

Hands down Batgirl is the better fighter she trained in every known and unknown fighting style and she can read people's body language to see what they'll do next.While Daredevil no pushover this would be a hard press fight to win for either side.

Savage Dragon vs Lizard

Pound for pound Dragon has it all over Lizard.Better fighter,faster healing factor,higher durability,and stronger.

@unknownfacts
"she's trained in every known and unknown fighting style"

You could say the same about Black Panther, whom DD has fought to a standstill. :)

And Wolverine too, whom he's actually beaten once. (twice IF you count the Garth Ennis throat chop, which I don't)

Richard Dragon
Batgirl
Savage Dragon

fenix122, "sending"? I'm thinkin you meant to say "sensing" am I right? huh? huh?

Unknown martial arts could also be a reference to people making new fighting style not yet known to the general fighting community or hidden clan/group that don't normally train outsider in their fighting style.

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Nope, not yet. Looks cool though, my favorite game is Ultimate Alliance and I also like the Arkham games. Btw, what's the roster look like? Do they just have like the basic popular characters like Batman, Green Arrow, Superman, Aquaman, etc. or do they branch out a bit with some more obscure guys like Question, Grundy, Deathstroke, etc.? P

@LoudLon

Well, back in the day I don't think it was ever specified how many or what kind of martial arts he knows. From what I've seen the only thing that was specified as far as his skills was that he's been honing them since he was like 5 years old. It wasn't until recently that he claimed to know every style, I get what you're saying. But, I don't remember it being specified before so his recent statement is truly all we have to go off of. That and his feats, like stalemating Daredevil, getting the best of Wolverine, and going toe to toe with Captain America (who's been heralded as a master of every form since WAAAY back in the classic era) so I'd say it's conceivable that he does know that many. Just my opinion though, because I don't remember if BP's exact skills were specified back then and the only thing we have to go off of is his statement that he's mastered all of them and his feats that can back it up.

Yeah, it's not realistic or actually possible in real life. But next to nothing in the comic world is possible in real life. I've come to grips with that myself when talking about Batman's 127 styles, I can argue that certain feats of his are PIS (Plot Induced Stupidity) but I can't disregard that he's mastered 127 when it's stated right there in the comics, and his creators say so. Yeah, it's not possible for a human to master 127 or all styles, but it's not really possible for 90% of the comic book characters to even exist in the first place.

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Aghhh. That was at your firs comment.

Aquaman[35]
Ares[36]
Bane[37]
Batman[38]
Black Adam[22]
Catwoman[39]
Cyborg[40]
Deathstroke[41]
Doomsday[42]
The Flash[38]
Green Arrow[43]
Green Lantern[44]
Harley Quinn[38]
Hawkgirl[45]
The Joker[44]
Killer Frost[36]
Lex Luthor[37]
Nightwing[40]
Raven[46]
Shazam[47]
Sinestro[45]
Solomon Grundy[38]
Superman[38]
Wonder Woman[38]

Lobo is the first DLC character

thats what i like about it

@LoudLon
Agh...Im kinda confused now. Well, back to the MASTERED and PRACTICED styles thing. Personally, I don't think it's about how many styles you know as to how good of a fighter you are.

IMO, it's about three things: 1. How many styles you actually use in combat, 2. How good you are in those styles, and 3. The feats. Those are the three things that I would consider the proper way to gague someone's skill. Like I'll use Batman for instance, even though it's been said that he knows 127 style of fighting. It's not like he can combine 127 styles into the one perfect fight style. You blend anywhere from
2 or 3 to probably 15 styles at the most that you can actually use together in combat, most of the others that he knows would be "placed on the shelf" you might say.

But according to various sources that I've cross referenced, Batman uses Tae Kwon Do, Judo, Muay Thai, Kung Fu, Boxing, Ninjitsu, Jiujitsu and Capoeira. That's 8 styles, these are the ones he uses in combat. All of the others are not seen or not used by him 99.9% of the time.

He's shown high profiency in using these styles and one might even say he's mastered them.

As for his feats, he's beaten Lady Shiva, stalemated Bronze Tiger, I'm pretty sure he beat Cassie.He beat Bane in h2h combat when they fought fairly (Bane didn't win the first time because he was a better fighter, he outsmarted him) and beat Ra's Al Ghul.

Taking these three factors into consideration, I'd place him up to par with Daredevil and Black Panther.



You see overall, I don't think it's about the whole "hes mastered every style" because IF he mastered every style, the vast majority of those styles wouldn't be used and wouldn't be seen 999 out of 1,000 times. You see what I mean?

with batman he blends Tae Kwon Do, Judo, Muay Thai, Dragon Style Kung Fu, Boxing, Jujitsu, Ninjitsu and Capoiera, all the other styles he knows comes out when he faces somebody that has some obscure move that they try on him and hes able to counter it or recognize the style that is used

What a great thread. Good arguments & opinions without the flames. Keep it up folks.

No flames? shall I provide? You're all stupid and I'm right.
Just kidding.

Jokes aside.

I would pay a lot of money to watch that first fight, it would REDONKULOUS. However, in the end I think IF pulls it out. So Danny boy takes it.

DD vs BG. Cain is awesome, great hero, but DD like many have pointed out is probably one of the best fighters in MU. DD takes this due to abilities and skills.

I've read very little Dragon and know a lot more about Lizard due to reading a ton of Spidey comics but from the stats Dragon seems a lot stronger and given regen he'd probably win.

loud lon, not even close? I'm thinking that's a bit of an exaggeration wouldn't ya say? I'd say Bruce and Matt are equals in the skills, use the method Fenix used to gague Murdock's skills and I'd say they come out roughly the same.