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CBM Rewind: The Time George R.R. Martin Wrote A Letter To Stan Lee

George R.R. Martin of Game of Thrones fame wrote a letter to Stan Lee back in the '60s about Fantastic Four #32 and Avengers #9. He recommended getting rid of Puppet Master and Mole Man.

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By Mark Julian - 8/30/2011
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Well looks like once upon a time, ol' GRRM was a fan of Marvel comics and even wrote to the comic publisher and had a letter published in Avengers #12. Martin stated that the only characters worthy of becoming regular Fantastic Four villains were "Namor, Doc Doom, Hulk, and the Red Ghost." He goes on to call the Thinker, Mole Man, Puppet Master, and Diablo, "the poorest villains Marvel has ever introduced". Check out the letter in full below.



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George R. R. Martin (born September 20, 1948), sometimes referred to as GRRM, is an American author and screenwriter of fantasy, horror, and science fiction. He is best known for his A Song of Ice and Fire series of epic fantasy novels, which HBO adapted into the dramatic series Game of Thrones. Martin was selected by Time magazine as one of the "2011 Time 100," a list of the "most influential people in the world."

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MarkJulian - 8/30/2011, 6:49 PM
Diablo (Esteban Corazón de Ablo) is a fictional character, a supervillain in the Marvel Comics universe who is an enemy of the Fantastic Four. He is an evil alchemist. He was created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby in Fantastic Four vol. 1 #30.

Esteban Corazón de Ablo was a powerful alchemist in 9th Century Saragossa, who sold his soul to the demon Mephisto to lengthen his life far beyond a human span. Years later, Diablo set up a base in Transylvania, but the villagers there turned against him and buried him within a stone crypt under his castle. Another century later, the Fantastic Four appeared in Transylvania on a vacation, when a local, Baron Hugo, told them the legend of Diablo. That night, Diablo whispered to The Thing to awake and free him from his prison by pulling out the stone plug on his crypt and smashing the stone slab that covered him. Freed, Diablo offered a potion to the Thing that would turn him halfway into a human, and in exchange for Ben's services for a year, he would give him the other potion that would finalize the change.
MarkJulian - 8/30/2011, 6:51 PM
The Red Ghost (Ivan Kragoff) and his Super-Apes (Mikhlo, Igor and Peotr) are a group of Marvel Comics supervillains, who started their career fighting the Fantastic Four, before confronting other Marvel heroes like Iron Man and Spider-Man. The characters were created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby in Fantastic Four #13 (April, 1963) and #29 (August, 1964).

Ivan Kragoff was born in Leningrad, in what was at the time the Soviet Union. Before becoming the Red Ghost, Ivan was a Soviet scientist bent on beating the Americans to the moon and claiming it for the Communist empire. He assembled a crew of three trained primates — Mikhlo the Gorilla, Igor the Baboon, and Peotr the Orangutan — which he subjected to specialized training regimens of his own design, then took off on his lunar rocket trip on behalf of the USSR, while on the very next panel, the Fantastic Four were aiming their own rocket for the same destination.

Kragoff knew enough of the Fantastic Four's history, and he purposefully designed his rocket in such a way that he and his crew would be heavily exposed to the cosmic rays that would, he expected, give them superpowers. This was successful: Kragoff gained the ability to become as intangible and invisible as a "ghost", Mikhlo became super-strong and super-durable, Igor gained the ability to shapeshift and could transform into nearly anything, and Peotr gained the ability to control either gravity (like Graviton) or magnetism (like Magneto)
JamesKilgannon - 8/30/2011, 7:03 PM
Give credit where credit is due. That picture was taken by Claudio Sanchez of Coheed and Cambria.

twitter.com/claudiopsanchez

and he tweeted that to Agent M.
95 - 8/30/2011, 7:07 PM
Interesting stuff.
TheShakeBake - 8/30/2011, 7:08 PM
He wanted the FF to fight Doc Ock and Blob? alright that was a great idea.... NOT
golden123 - 8/30/2011, 7:09 PM
That is pretty cool!
fangz - 8/30/2011, 7:12 PM
wow. right on and no doubt, the Thinker has gotta be by far the worst ever Marvel villain. and i totally agree that the Puppet Master, Diablo and Mole Man are almost as terrible.

it's a certin thing and it's hard for me to even express why. except with the Thinker, i could almost write a book about how annoying that villain is.
Armageddon26 - 8/30/2011, 7:14 PM
@JamesKilgannon So Im guessing you have a twitter then ;P
JamesKilgannon - 8/30/2011, 7:18 PM
Indeed. :D. @THE_James_Champ

Cuz y'know, I'm THE James.
fangz - 8/30/2011, 7:21 PM
there's a lot of Marvel villains that are pretty annoying, especially in FF. and GraphiCity brought up the Red Ghost who is one of them. next to the Thinker, i think the worst has gotta be Impossible Man. cuz they always are trying to act like he's a true cosmic threat to reality, but he's just a MXYLPLLIKKK rip off.
why would u wanna rip thatt off? that 's one of the lowest points of DC comics. u should be happy to let them suffer that on their own.
FF really established a lot of crazy villains, but i also like that, cuz they were like Marvel's gateway to the grandest, most cerebral and out there villains for a while. things that were so big that Jack Kirby had to cut to that weird page long space view kind of thing every once in a while. with the crazy superimposed colors on gray photos. he did that just to show how incomprehensible and out of this world these things truly were. so u gotta appreciate them for trying all that weird stuff. for every Mad Thinker, we got an Annihilus, for every Red Ghost, we got the Inhumans.
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Iceman01 - 8/30/2011, 7:32 PM
I really think Martin is a real cool guy.
MarkJulian - 8/30/2011, 7:32 PM
@JamesKilgannon That's precisely where I got it from. :)
Ryguy88 - 8/31/2011, 7:23 AM
Martin is pretty smart guy, Game of Thrones is a great show/story and those Marvel characters he doesn't like are crap!

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