THE HOBBIT: THERE AND BACK AGAIN Officially Retitled: THE BATTLE OF THE FIVE ARMIES

Peter Jackson was rumored to be toying with a new subtitle for his final Middle-Earth saga entry, The Hobbit: There and Back Again, but the director has taken to Facebook to confirm the title himself!

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By DCMarvelFreshman - 4/24/2014
Our journey to make The Hobbit Trilogy has been in some ways like Bilbo's own, with hidden paths revealing their secrets to us as we've gone along. “There and Back Again” felt like the right name for the second of a two film telling of the quest to reclaim Erebor, when Bilbo’s arrival there, and departure, were both contained within the second film. But with three movies, it suddenly felt misplaced—after all, Bilbo has already arrived “there” in the "Desolation of Smaug".
 
When we did the premiere trip late last year, I had a quiet conversation with the studio about the idea of revisiting the title. We decided to keep an open mind until a cut of the film was ready to look at. We reached that point last week, and after viewing the movie, we all agreed there is now one title that feels completely appropriate.
 
And so: "The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies" it is.
 
As Professor Tolkien intended, “There and Back Again” encompasses Bilbo’s entire adventure, so don’t be surprised if you see it used on a future box-set of all three movies.
 
Before then however, we have a film to finish, and much to share with you. It’s been a nice quiet time for us—Jabez and I happily editing away in a dark cave in Wellington—but those halcyon days are quickly coming to an end. It will soon be time to step into the light. Expect to see and hear much about The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies in the coming months.
 
And there’s also The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug Extended Cut, which we’re in the process of finishing, with over 25 mins of new scenes, all scored with original music composed by Howard Shore.
 
 
It’ll be a fun year! - Peter Jackson

Starring Evangeline Lilly, Benedict Cumberbatch, Luke Evans, Richard Armitage, Orlando Bloom, Martin Freeman, Lee Pace, Manu Bennett, Aidan Turner, Cate Blanchett, with Hugo Weaving and Ian McKellen, The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies is scheduled for release December 17, 2014.
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DEVLIN712 - 4/24/2014, 6:56 AM
Eh, a bit long
DEVLIN712 - 4/24/2014, 6:57 AM
They should split the last movie into 2, then one book has 3 parts, the third of which has two parts
SuperCat - 4/24/2014, 7:00 AM
I like it. F*ckin' good title!
Arrowhead77 - 4/24/2014, 7:02 AM
Nice! Like the new title!
Gusto - 4/24/2014, 7:04 AM
Damnit!
I really thought my
The Hobbit: Boner Slap idea
was gonna catch on.
SimyJo - 4/24/2014, 7:05 AM
LOL @ 'The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug Extended Cut' - Same old same old with Jackson.... NEVER worth getting his LOTR films straight away as there is always the 'extended cut' released later.
marvel72 - 4/24/2014, 7:05 AM
better than there & back again.
Gusto - 4/24/2014, 7:05 AM
Or, The Hobbit: The Unexpected Boner.
That's gold right there!
MrCBM56 - 4/24/2014, 7:05 AM
I like the title to, but There and Back Again is still better.
MrCBM56 - 4/24/2014, 7:06 AM
That battle better be [frick]ing insane.
JoJo1982 - 4/24/2014, 7:07 AM
@simyjo

Agreed
MrMartinMarvel - 4/24/2014, 7:08 AM
That's long, too long, ungodly long.
TheAbaryMan369 - 4/24/2014, 7:08 AM
It's pretty neat, but There And Back Again is so much better.
batz11 - 4/24/2014, 7:08 AM
Yoss, that was going to be my exact comment, should have been "Battle of Five Armies" a little shorter
TheAbaryMan369 - 4/24/2014, 7:09 AM
It suits better for a spin off title. As a movie subtitle, it's not that great.
TheAbaryMan369 - 4/24/2014, 7:10 AM
It's kind of bad when a movie has the same word 3 times though.

THE Hobbit: THE Battle of THE Five Armies
KallarkKent - 4/24/2014, 7:12 AM
I liked There And Back Again better.
GeneralZod1138 - 4/24/2014, 7:14 AM
I like it!!!!

"There and Back Again" for the box set? GENIUS!!!!
QuestiontheAnswer - 4/24/2014, 7:17 AM
The Hobbit: Subtitle is as unnecessarily long as the duration of this franchise.
DefcoN - 4/24/2014, 7:18 AM
I liked the first name, but what the hell, bring it. This movie has to redeem this trilogy in some way, especially after what we got from Desolation of Smaug. Also, I hope Howard Shore has more inspiration with his score this time.
charlie2094 - 4/24/2014, 7:18 AM
@TheAbary

THE Lord of THE Rings: THE Fellowship of THE Ring :P Same with Return of the king, already done it twice. Do think it would be better as just Battle of Five Armies, but no biggie.

This honestly makes more sense. Definitely made more sense for it to be There and Back Again when it was two films, but did kind of need a new title when made into free, cool to see it used for the box set
Solar - 4/24/2014, 7:22 AM
First time commenting, been following forever. Love Gusto, and anyone who trolls hard. That said, these movies blow. So much walking, so little anything else. At the end of the Return of the Jedi, suddenly Gandolf is able to call Eagles, if he could do that why didn't he just ride an eagle to the mountain to begin with, drop the ring in, an save us 10 hours of suck.
BigMikeReviews - 4/24/2014, 7:22 AM
Good title, implies action which is a good, there and back again would have appeared redundant and cyclical to the average movie goer
ProfessorX - 4/24/2014, 7:24 AM
Makes sense.
MrCBM56 - 4/24/2014, 7:24 AM
@Solar Welcome, but a Return of the Jedi?
fettastic - 4/24/2014, 7:24 AM
@Simjo, yeah, you'd think you would have learned that by now. Especially since it was announced before the first one even hit theaters.
blackandyellow - 4/24/2014, 7:28 AM
The Hobbit 3: The Search for More Money
GodzillaKart - 4/24/2014, 7:30 AM
I predict the battle will be an amazing scene in an otherwise shitty film.
ProfessorX - 4/24/2014, 7:33 AM
"suddenly Gandolf is able to call Eagles, if he could do that why didn't he just ride an eagle to the mountain to begin with"

1) Because the ring would have corrupted him (it had to be Frodo to deliver it), 2) Because the Eagles cannot be controlled like that (they intervened of their own will in the end), 3) Because the fun is in the adventure (i.e. plot convenience).
Tevii - 4/24/2014, 7:33 AM
The last thing these movies need are extended cuts. They already stretched a tiny book out enough.

If Warner bros. was smart, after all of these movies have been out for a while, they should take key scenes from each of the three movies re-edit it into a single 3 hour movie that closely resembles the Hobbit book without the additional garbage they added to stretch it out into three, long, boring movies. It could be the Definitive Hobbit. Something that would be a great addition to the Extended cuts of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy sets.

WB could make even more money off a single book and the fans would have a great adaptation.
NeoBaggins - 4/24/2014, 7:34 AM
Weird running across this while watching Desolation. I like "There and back again", but I know its too cute of a title to contain what the last installment with hold.

Bring it.
Ranger14 - 4/24/2014, 7:36 AM
As it should be called! One of my favorite parts of the book. There and Back Again is fairly "blah" and says nothing. Loved the last film and I don't get all the hatred some have for these films, but to each their own. As long as I enjoy them, that's all that matters to me.
Solar - 4/24/2014, 7:41 AM
The movies are just boring. I guess that is my only point. The Hobbit doesn't need three movies to do it justice, not even two, one would do. Instead we get a sloppy snore fest.
Swiftsword777 - 4/24/2014, 7:42 AM
It's fitting
ReeferInferno - 4/24/2014, 7:43 AM
Get rid of that last "the" and it's good
Scarilian - 4/24/2014, 7:44 AM
@ProfessorX

"1) Because the ring would have corrupted him (it had to be Frodo to deliver it), 2) Because the Eagles cannot be controlled like that (they intervened of their own will in the end), 3) Because the fun is in the adventure (i.e. plot convenience)"

In the films;

1 - The ring corrupts those who use it. Even if Gandalf himself could not ride to the mountain - he could have sent Frodo on an Eagle.

2 - The Eagles could have flown them most the way as they do in The Hobbit, this would have made the journey a lot less perilous and saved valuable time even if they didn't take them all the way to the mountain. We also see an Eagle save Gandalf when he is in Ortanc... which is in Gondor literally the closest place to Mordor so their is no excuse as to why they couldn't have flown Frodo their.

3 - Their is no fun in Lord Of The Rings, the scenery is nice but even online I haven't found anyone who can justify why seeing characters spend several hours walking is a good thing.

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The films themselves are boring, the only thing people ever enjoy is the large scale and the scenery.
AlphaMasterFlex - 4/24/2014, 7:45 AM
I've been waiting for the ultimate middle earth collection on blu ray the extended hobbit & lord of the rings trilogy combined steelbook. Hopefully this will be real and not just my imagination.
Mashpataters - 4/24/2014, 7:46 AM
@ProfessorX

I agree.

When is everyone going to stop commenting about the damn eagles.
Mashpataters - 4/24/2014, 7:48 AM
@Scarilian

That's very much your opinion. I happen to love everything about Lord of the Rings...and if box office calculations are correct, so do like..a billion other people..
Starfox - 4/24/2014, 7:55 AM
Long Ass Title. I'm sure it was inspired by "Dawn of the planet of the apes"
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